What are the top bugs or incomplete features that make your Logos life a pain?
I am curious because (a) Feedbear does not include most bugs/incomplete projects and (b) the recent versions of 9.0 have had several bug corrections (9.1 - 37 bugs; 9.2 - 22 bugs; 9.3 - 10 bugs; 9.4 - 22 bugs; 9.5 beta - 26 bugs) and I'm curious how they relate to the user experience. Note: I expect the answers to be personal as what is a problem depends on how you use the software. Someone else may find life difficult because of a bug I've never noticed.
My list is primarily incomplete conversions:
1. The missing spark charts in Factbook
2. The missing semantic roles in the Context Menu and Factbook ... yes, this probably has low usage statistics but so did the Biblical Sense Lexicon until people finally caught on.
3. Loss of the Sanctoral cycle layout and the "conversion" of the Saints card to a calendar devotional in practice. {I may be the sole complainant on this)
4. Lack of Old Testament and New Testament as common divisions in the Bible Browser - they exist only as headings
5. The Outline interactive comparison display needs to allow the selection of sources
6. Lack of consistency in updating resources with sermons, outlines, letters, etc. Steady progress is required for me to keep the faith.
7. In the library provide the ability to recognize the pieces of a resource that has been split apart as a single work.
8. Make the Fuzzy Bible Search respect the restriction on books
9. The Personal Book Builder's problem with recognizing that a book is released and can be recompiled without closing Logos.
10. Ability to select a "partial" word in Hebrew ... okay, this doesn't directly affect me but I sympathize with the Hebrew scholars it drives nuts.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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The Atlas Tool not using my GPU so is terribly laggy whilst rotating/panning etc compared with the one at https://app.logos.com/tools/atlas. (Win10/Nvidia)
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The lack of a search feature in Favorites is a bit of pain for me (I have a lot of stuff in there) and an odd omission, especially as even my free web browser has that capability. Technically it's probably a missing feature, but I'll be generous and assume it's just not implemented yet [;)].
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• There is no way to create custom slide groups in the Sermon Builder.
• There is no way to import custom slide groups from Proclaim.
• Sermon slides that are transferred to Proclaim cannot be easily changed to another temple (only Bible slides properly convert in Proclaim, in my experience; any others, custom or not, must be manually recreated).
• Unreasonable restrictions on having personal books on mobile devices (I've given up on creating personal books at all, and instead use Notes).
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It is beyond incomplete, it is nonexistent.
I want to highlight footnotes.
I want to add a note to a footnote.
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The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER.
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Prioritization should be overhauled. It is not intuitive, especially for a new user.
You just dump books into a long list. I want there to be categories. For instance: Bibles, Commentaries, Dictionaries, etc.
The way it is now is kind of a mess.
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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Prioritization should be overhauled. It is not intuitive, especially for a new user.
You just dump books into a long list. I want there to be categories. For instance: Bibles, Commentaries, Dictionaries, etc.
The way it is now is kind of a mess.
I completely agree.
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Prioritization should be overhauled. It is not intuitive, especially for a new user.
You just dump books into a long list. I want there to be categories. For instance: Bibles, Commentaries, Dictionaries, etc.
The way it is now is kind of a mess.
This has been a pain point for me for some time. There should be prioritization sections to help users more easily determine what resources are prioritized for particular resource types.
I think I'll add a feature suggestion now. [:D]
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
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Yep [Y] ! There is a known rough workaround for the moment though. Create a blank Word doc, import it into Logos as a personal book and give it a title so it will stand out. Add it to your prioritization list, then position it accordingly. Repeat, using the same blank word doc, but different title categories.See example pic.Prioritization should be overhauled. It is not intuitive, especially for a new user.
You just dump books into a long list. I want there to be categories. For instance: Bibles, Commentaries, Dictionaries, etc.
The way it is now is kind of a mess.
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I think I'll add a feature suggestion now.
It's already there. Please vote, and SHARE. :-)
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/prioritize-resources-by-type
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College0 -
Dave Colclough wrote:
Yep
! There is a known rough workaround for the moment though. Create a blank Word doc, import it into Logos as a personal book and give it a title so it will stand out. Add it to your prioritization list, then position it accordingly. Repeat, using the same blank word doc, but different title categories.See example pic.I never thought of this before! Thank you.
It is better than what we have. Hopefully it will be fixed soon, or at least in version 10.
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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My work in Logos is not a "pain", but it would be more pleasant if Gregory's thoughts on Sermon Builder and Proclaim integration were enacted.
• There is no way to create custom slide groups in the Sermon Builder.
• There is no way to import custom slide groups from Proclaim.
• Sermon slides that are transferred to Proclaim cannot be easily changed to another temple (only Bible slides properly convert in Proclaim, in my experience; any others, custom or not, must be manually recreated).
[Y] [Y]
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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One perpetual, system wide pet peeve:
Biblical text popups (when hovering over a biblical reference) are not scrollable. E.g. Hover over a reference to "John 1" will only show the first few verses.
Also would like those popups to show the top 2 versions, for those of us who routinely work with 2 Bible translations in different languages.
Workaround: The F7 function popup is scrollable and shows the top 5 Bible versions.
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The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER.
Amen! This needs fixed!
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1. Tagging from the library - waiting for the library to rebuild after each tag. Agreed to above several times.
2. On Mac linking the Text Comparison with a Bible - the Text Comparison does not keep track. A known bug, reported by me at least 4 times and included in the new suggestions website.
Not a long list, but ones that we have been waiting a long time to get fixed.
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For me it would be dark mode. It's half baked and unusable due to legibility issues with various font colors and highlight colors. It's disappointing since dark mode is marketed as a key feature for Logos 9.
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The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER
I totally agree [Y]
I wonder if a pause library updating option similar to the pause indexing for 4 hours option could be made available for this issue at least?
Too soon old. Too late smart.
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One perpetual, system wide pet peeve:
Biblical text popups (when hovering over a biblical reference) are not scrollable. E.g. Hover over a reference to "John 1" will only show the first few verses.
I agree, I made that suggestion a couple of years ago in the old uservoice, but nothing happened. An other bible software has this and it allows me to scroll all popups (not just bible), both forward and backward. It allowed me to check scripture context easily.
It is available in the web app, at least on some resources.
Too soon old. Too late smart.
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[Y]One perpetual, system wide pet peeve:
Biblical text popups (when hovering over a biblical reference) are not scrollable. E.g. Hover over a reference to "John 1" will only show the first few verses.
Also would like those popups to show the top 2 versions, for those of us who routinely work with 2 Bible translations in different languages.
Workaround: The F7 function popup is scrollable and shows the top 5 Bible versions.
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Make the Library pane STOP losing focus with every single update to anything. Renaming resources and tagging resources are both terrible experiences for me right now because of this.
3. Loss of the Sanctoral cycle layout and the "conversion" of the Saints card to a calendar devotional in practice. {I may be the sole complainant on this)
I gave up.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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For me it would be dark mode. It's half baked and unusable due to legibility issues with various font colors and highlight colors. It's disappointing since dark mode is marketed as a key feature for Logos 9.
Agree, sometimes the fonts are unreadable in certain resources, so that one has to use the web app to read it.
Also what seems like a missing feature for me is the inability to put hyperlinks in canvas to particular resource locations.
If I could do that, then I would be able to create mind map like visual index.
For example imagine the text in the following image to be a hyperlink that would take me to a canvas doc that has many resource locations relevant to that particular word:
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Also what seems like a missing feature for me is the inability to put hyperlinks in canvas to particular resource locations.
Adding scripture references in Canvas - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) from 2019 has hyperlinks ..
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER.
I had a little steam issuing from my ears for this very reason just today. You summarized it well, though I usually experience it when changing a resource's title rather than when tagging. The current updating process interrupts any subsequent process you may be working on and deselects it, so that you have to start your amending from scratch. The only option is to wait however many seconds for the updating process to occur. The irony is that when I did this on my older and slower computer, if I was quick I could do a series of back-to-back changes, and if I completed a subsequent change before the update kicked in, the update que just rolled back. Now, with my zippy system, I have to just sit for a few seconds and do nothing while waiting for the update to register. So now, because my faster computer processes my changes quicker, the process is slower because I can't fully complete a subsequent edit, so any edit work I'm engaged in gets wiped out. Frustrating and time wasting.
So, to be clear, two issues need to be addressed here:
1) The "yellow bar" John mentions should not be inserted into the library list. It simply causes problems when this happens. A pop-up box in the corner would work better, assuming anything needs to happen at all (I'm not sure the information provided in the yellow bar is even necessary).
2) When the updated edited entry "kicks in", that should not wipe out any work a user is engaged in while making subsequent edits.
EDIT: I see SineNomine (among others) also has the same concern above.
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"The Unbelievable Work...believe it or not." Little children...Biblical prophecy is not Christianity's friend.
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One perpetual, system wide pet peeve:
Biblical text popups (when hovering over a biblical reference) are not scrollable. E.g. Hover over a reference to "John 1" will only show the first few verses.
First asked for similar functionality about a decade ago, although my request was for scrollable Notes. Most frustrating was that some native pop-up note windows (in NETS, for instance) do scroll, but we weren't allowed to have this function in our personal notes. Just recently, when I got my new tablet, I was surprised to find that the notes in the mobile app do scroll. This functionality should be available in the desktop app...100%.
ASUS ProArt x570s Creator, AMD R9 5950x, HyperX 64gb 3600 RAM, ASUS Strix RTX 2080 ti
"The Unbelievable Work...believe it or not." Little children...Biblical prophecy is not Christianity's friend.
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I totally agree with this one. It keeps dumping me out of the information pane in the middle of adding a tag.
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One that drives me crazy is the inability to delete my answers out of a textbook so I can work through it again. That can't be that difficult to program, and to include an appropriate "are you sure" process so it won't happen accidentally. But being able to re-use a book would greatly enhance its value.
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One that drives me crazy is the inability to delete my answers out of a textbook so I can work through it again.
Resource inputs are now stored in the Notes tool, so you have full control over them from there. You can get to the note by clicking the little note indicator to the right of the resource input.
To bulk delete, filter notes in the Notes tool by the workbook resource in question, then you can select all and delete. (They will be saved in Trash.) If you want to keep the answers but clear the the workbook blank, you can delete a given note's anchor.
(We could still add this as a button or a resource menu command on the workbook itself, for convenience and discoverability. I'll suggest it.)
Peace!
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Resource inputs are now stored in the Notes tool, so you have full control over them from there. You can get to the note by clicking the little note indicator to the right of the resource input.
To bulk delete, filter notes in the Notes tool by the workbook resource in question, then you can select all and delete. (They will be saved in Trash.) If you want to keep the answers but clear the the workbook blank, you can delete a given note's anchor.
(We could still add this as a button or a resource menu command on the workbook itself, for convenience and discoverability. I'll suggest it.)
Peace!
Sweet! I hadn't caught that - thank you very much for fixing this! (Now I have a couple of textbooks I need to revisit...)
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Hello Gregory,
Perhaps this is out of scope of this post, but can you elaborate a bit on why you've given up on creating personal books at all?
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One that drives me crazy is the inability to delete my answers out of a textbook so I can work through it again. That can't be that difficult to program, and to include an appropriate "are you sure" process so it won't happen accidentally. But being able to re-use a book would greatly enhance its value.
What might be better is if you had the ability to "archive" your previous answers & then be able to access them later to compare your current answers to your former answers. I find that sometimes my thought process has changed or I see growth from my previous answers.
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