SDA International Bible Commentary
Are there plans for the new Adventist commentary to be added to Logos? I would like to have it electronically since its easier for research.
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Add my vote to the list.
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Except the commentary on the book of Genesis by Dr Doukhan, are there other commentaries available already?
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I've only seen Genesis.
I hope it can be released on Logos volume by volume instead of having to wait to 2020 or beyond (since it seems that the church likes it to be exclusively at the ABCs first)
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I would like it as well and would not like to wait till 2020.
By the way, I wonder what is going on that nobody posts in the SDA products much anymore? I don't even hear from Martin anylonger.
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Rev. 14:6 said:
By the way, I wonder what is going on that nobody posts in the SDA products much anymore? I don't even hear from Martin anylonger.
SDA Starter has 225 resources and we are all reading them cover to cover and thus do not have time to post.
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The first volume out in the series, Genesis by Dr. Jacques Doukhan, is really good. It is clear that he brings a lifetime of reflections on Genesis to this commentary. It might take a while before it gets into Logos, so you guys might want to buy it in print in the mean time.
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I agree, it is a really good source! Why do you think it is going to take a while to have the volume in Logos?
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Dnieper, I don't have any insider insights, just my personal guess. Logos pre-pubs in general have become a lot slower after the staff reduction earlier, and SDA pre-pubs particularly seem to have slowed down almost to a halt. But I certainly hope and expect that the Genesis volume will be published before the entire commentary series is done (which is many years into the future).Dnieper Vega said:I agree, it is a really good source! Why do you think it is going to take a while to have the volume in Logos?
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no this is the teaser the are due in 2020
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Jason, I would like to agree with you but Commentary sets are notorious for being late in coming out after (sometimes well after) the due date. Many things can happen to delay the process including (sadly) the death of the writer(s). I would take Reimar's suggestion to consider buying print versions seriously.
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Reimar Vetne said:
The first volume out in the series, Genesis by Dr. Jacques Doukhan, is really good. It is clear that he brings a lifetime of reflections on Genesis to this commentary. It might take a while before it gets into Logos, so you guys might want to buy it in print in the mean time.
What a shame, I was hoping it would be available in Amazon UK but it is not. I would like to read how SDA interprete certain passages in Genesis.
Is this book available in the UK?
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Ted, At my time of life I am having to go electronic for soon downsizing so share your feelings.
The USA publishing house ( http://www.adventistbookcenter.com/sda-international-bible-commentary-genesis.html ) might well refer the order to the UK publishing house however. This is the book that you want NOT the old commentary set that was only a set of 7 volumes for both OT & NT. .
Try the UK publishing house email at sales@stanboroughpress.org.uk tel 01476591700 Stanborough Press Ltd., Alma Park, Grantham, Lincs., NG31 9SL. Open Monday to Thursday. Specify the new commentary Genesis volume by Jacques B. Doukhan. They should be helpful at finding out how long it will take to get it across the pond but establish a price first especially with the fluctuating pound.
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I would also like to have this Bible commentary at Logos!
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The New commentary being produced or the old commentary. The SDA Bible commentary already is in Logos and is for sale. [:)]
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Richard Bonjour said:
The New commentary being produced or the old commentary.
It is a New Adventist Bible Commentary ("SDA International Bible Commentary - Genesis"): https://www.adventistreview.org/church-news/story4455-new-adventist-bible-commentary-to-squeeze-the-juice-from-scriptures
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Old Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary Set Vol 1-7
ISBN: 643330046272 | Review and Herald Publishing | Copyright 2011
$199.99 Hardcover Book
This 7-volume set includes:
The SDA Bible Commentary:
Vol. 1, Genesis to Deuteronomy (c. 1953, 1976, 1978)
Vol. 2, Joshua to 2 Kings (c. 1953, 1976)
Vol. 3, 1 Chronicles to Song of Solomon (c. 1954, 1977)
Vol. 4, Isaiah to Malachi (c. 1955, 1977)
Vol. 5, Matthew to John (c. 1956, 1980)
Vol. 6, Acts to Ephesians (c. 1956, 1980)
Vol. 7, Philippians to Revelation (c. 1957, 1980)New Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary
66 books at $30 each or so comes to $2000Questions:
How few Adventist families bought the old set?
How many Adventist families will buy the new set?
How many Adventist churches will buy the new set?
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I would like the new one but in Logos.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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I would agree with you on that one Lynden![:D]
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It's 2020 now and no SDA International Commentary set in sight. Even if we had the text ready to go for Logos it would take them quite a while to make it available to Logos users. Actually, not meaning to be too pessimistic, I don't think that they put too much priority on our denomination. They still haven't fixed all the E. G. White Books. Some are still formatted in weird ways with hanging indent on each paragraph like in Patriarchs and Prophets and many other books. They said that that is the way they got the text so they left it that way. I don't see too many books printed or formatted that way so why didn't they ask if we really wanted them that way. We (some of us) have put in typo requests to have it fixed but they don't think that it is too big of a deal to have it fixed.
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I understand your frustration with the formatting issues and agree they should be fixed but FL don’t ask users for their opinion on these issues they go by the files provided to them. It has nothing to do with these being SDA resources, its all about the publishers files.
Fred Littlefield said:It's 2020 now and no SDA International Commentary set in sight. Even if we had the text ready to go for Logos it would take them quite a while to make it available to Logos users. Actually, not meaning to be too pessimistic, I don't think that they put too much priority on our denomination. They still haven't fixed all the E. G. White Books. Some are still formatted in weird ways with hanging indent on each paragraph like in Patriarchs and Prophets and many other books. They said that that is the way they got the text so they left it that way. I don't see too many books printed or formatted that way so why didn't they ask if we really wanted them that way. We (some of us) have put in typo requests to have it fixed but they don't think that it is too big of a deal to have it fixed.
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Fred Littlefield said:
It's 2020 now and no SDA International Commentary set in sight. Even if we had the text ready to go for Logos it would take them quite a while to make it available to Logos users.
Doubt they have the license to make it available. They were supposed to make volume 1 available at this year's General Conference as far as I can remember. It is not available in print on Adventist Book Center, where I anticipate it will be posted initially.
Hope Logos can secure rights to publish. I do not see myself buying 50 or more volumes in paper. Takes up too much space, too heavy to ship and don't know if they will allow paying for the product over a year's period.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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"The Speaker's Commentary", presents the best of 19th-century Anglican scholarship, having taken over 18 years to complete by a team of more than 30 scholars.
It could take a while if "The Speaker's Commentary" is an example of how long it takes to compleate a bible commentary.
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Lynden Williams said:
It is not available in print on Adventist Book Center, where I anticipate it will be posted initially.
https://adventistbookcenter.com/sda-international-bible-commentary-genesis.html
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David Ames said:Lynden Williams said:
It is not available in print on Adventist Book Center, where I anticipate it will be posted initially.
https://adventistbookcenter.com/sda-international-bible-commentary-genesis.html
Thanks David. Let's start writing Pacific Press asking for it to be made available in Logos.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Please add my name to the list when/if it happens.
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I suspect the project may have been abandoned. I have not seen anything about it in any of the church publications.
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Michael Kinch said:
I suspect the project may have been abandoned. I have not seen anything about it in any of the church publications.
I hope not. I am still hoping that it will make it's way into Logos.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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A 'friend' said “I know that they are working on them.” He 'should' know.
Will try to get better information out of him directly when I see him next. He just had a promotion at the Union level.
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My Avondale Seminary lecturer said they would officially release the new SDA Commentary at the next General Conference Session, which was delayed by two years to June 6-11, 2022 due to COVID-19 impacts. Leaders Vote to Postpone General Conference Session 2020 for a Second Time | Adventist News Network
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Thanks for the update Luke. Welcome to the forums. Now if a deal can be worked out to get it in Logos. Not only am I not planning to go to the Genera Conference, it would be expensive to lug all of those books home on a plane. Unless I win the lottery which I do not play. [:)]
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Luke Robinson said:
My Avondale Seminary lecturer said they would officially release the new SDA Commentary at the next General Conference Session,
So how many total volumes will be in the set? If 44, like the ECC, and at $30 per that comes to $1300.
Out of my range when the current, out of date, set was selling for $145. [At this time will only buy Danial and Revelation]
Also my local church would not buy a set for the church at that price. [Who is their target audience?]
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Lynden Williams said:
Unless I win the lottery which I do not play.
Lottery winnings are tythed at 25%.
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Spoke to a Union president today. His wife set up our Festival of Hymns that we celebrated today.
He stated that they were still saying that it was being worked on but he had seen nothing to back that up.
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Thanks for the update.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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I would like to suggest we take up a 13th Sabbathschool offering, pay the cost of the commentary in full for it, and put the new Adventist commentary into the public domain. Of course I want it in Logos, but what about the millions who don’t have Logos? What about our brothers and sisters in impoverished situations around the world? In the dark ages, the Bible was chained to the convent wall, a privilege only for the elite. Satan has plenty of “Bible commentary” freely available for all search engines online… why must we reserve the best of our biblical scholarship only for the rich elite and keep it out of reach generally speaking for the average church member around the world? There is plenty of misinformation about Adventist theology, let’s ”show our hand” so that our antagonists have to do research based upon our actual teachings! Let’s do this brothers and sisters!
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Nathan Tasker said:
why must we reserve the best of our biblical scholarship only for the rich elite
The old one was under $200.
If 44 volumes at $35 each that is about $1500 or almost 10 times the price of the old one. Yes, only for the "rich elite"!!!
(Have not seen any of the new ones but the old one went verse by verse. How does the new one read?)
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Volume 6 Psalms, Proverbs, Eccl. and Song of Songs is now available in print. It would sure be nice to see them in Logos.
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Michael Kinch said:
Volume 6 Psalms, Proverbs, Eccl. and Song of Songs is now available in print. It would sure be nice to see them in Logos.
I second the motion
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Lyden, have you heard anymore about the first volume of the international commentary being put in by Faith Life yet?
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Lynden, I just noticed that the first book for the international Bible commentary has been published at the end of this last year. Have you heard anything about whether Faith Life might be considering putting it in to Logos?
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No I have not heard anything.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Is/will SDA International Bible Commentary be published by Andrews University Press?
If so, Faith Life initiated already The Andrews Bible Commentary (2 vols.). I've just preordered it. It is listed as gathering interest. Hope more preorder this one.
https://www.logos.com/product/247559/the-andrews-bible-commentary
As for the SDAIBC I suppose Faith Life might initiate the same procedure (volume by volume) and once enough people preorder it they will release it in Logos. Shall we write Logos that we want this?
Stoyan
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Thanks Stoyan, I appreciate the heads up. I will have to check into this one most definitely. Thanks much, Richard
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By the way, Richard, the list price of Andrews Bible commentary hard copy set is $139.99, while the preorder from Faith Life is only $60.99. This is a very substantial discount.
This could mean that if Faith Life releases SDAIBC, it will be substantially discounted upon preorder.
v.6 Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Songs of Songs hard copy costs $59.99, so something like $40 makes sense.
SDAIBC is supposed to consist from 15 volumes. 2 are already released with 2 more this year and then 3 each consecutive year. Something like by 2027 we can have the whole collection as hard copies.
SDAIBC is published by Pacific Press, while Andrews Bible commentary by Andrews University Press. It seems to me that Faith Life releases a lot from Andrews University Press (292 hits on Logos site), while I see (almost) nothing from Pacific Press at Logos. Hopefully an agreement can be reached about the SDAIBC and then I am sure many will preorder (me included).
Stoyan
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It's 2024 and I'm still waiting. It might be interesting to start a campaign for Logos to release the volumes that are already available.
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Filkarane, it seems logos releases something, only if enough people preorder it. For example, although the Andrews Bible commentary has strong interest, still is far away to reach enough preorders half an year later.
I am wondering if SDAIBC can collect enough preorders. Still we should try. How can the process of preorders be initiated?
As for the Andrews Bible commentary, I preordered it for $60.99. It seems it was Logos mistake, because the preorder now is about double - $110.99.
https://www.logos.com/product/247559/the-andrews-bible-commentary
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I was wondering that as well Stoyan. I've been looking at the books for SDAIBC, but love to order them from Logos. I also preordered the Andrews Bible commentary at the same price you did. I was wishing there was more interest as well so I could get mine. The publishing company's I imagine won't promote it that way because they would loose money.[:(]
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I don't think there is even a contract for the commentary. We first need to get Pacific Press to agree for it to be published in Logos. If you have any connections see if you can get a conversation going.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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I'll think on that Lynden. My son used to work there a number of moons ago. But he know works for the Minnesota conference. So I don't have the connections I once did. I will think about the people I know. If there is anyone else out there that has a passion for seeing IBC in Logos and has some contacts, let them know our New Years Wish!!!![:D]
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I also preordered the Andrews Bible commentary but it doesn't seem to be moving forward. Interestingly, this quarter, we will experience a little of the theological potential to analyze Psalms of Dragoslava Santrac phD in the Sabbath School Lesson.
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