Just wondering.. Logos 10...

xnman
xnman Member Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Just wondering if there are any "rumors" about what's going to be in Logos 10?

Like maybe ZipScript... or Personal Books in mobile... or improvements on the Search?  Geeked

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

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  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,795

    Just wondering if there are any "rumors" about what's going to be in Logos 10?

    Like maybe ZipScript... or Personal Books in mobile... or improvements on the Search?  Geeked

    You'll have to consult a prophet. Maybe Isaiah can help? :).

    I think all you'll be able to find are guesses at this point.

    L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    I’m typing on my phone so not best suited for a search. Do you know how to search the forums via Google? Threads generally start up a bit more than a year out on speculation, requests, etc. 

    As for personal books, the last official word is that the feature did not end up being used as expected (personal books written by the user) and future development is shelved. 

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,130

    and future development is shelved. 

    This is the second time you've mentioned this which I apparently missed (or forgot). Do you know where this was mentioned? I know they cancelled the originally promised store aspect -- much to my annoyance.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • HJ. van der Wal
    HJ. van der Wal Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭

    Do you know where this was mentioned? 

    Perhaps JT is referring to this post by Bob Pritchett from 2016: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/126859/848584.aspx#848584 

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 3,087

    Perhaps JT is referring to this post by Bob Pritchett from 2016: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/126859/848584.aspx#848584 

    Presuming 2022 is 2016 (little change), I suspect low use has much to do with not easy to do. I did PBs for a while. I'd bet an integrated PDF reader would solve most people's needs in Logos. I've had one in my Bible software, along with other document readers. Very handy.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,130

    Perhaps JT is referring to this post by Bob Pritchett from 2016: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/126859/848584.aspx#848584 

    If that is so, I get to laugh at myself - I remembered the post solely in respect to its killing of the promised store.[8-|]

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭

    Presuming 2022 is 2016 (little change), I suspect low use has much to do with not easy to do. I did PBs for a while. I'd bet an integrated PDF reader would solve most people's needs in Logos. I've had one in my Bible software, along with other document readers. Very handy.

    That's a great idea!!  Love it!  But I do hope they give the mobile app the right to view Personal Books.... Hey ... maybe they will do both??? ---- (get's on knees, folds hands together under chin, looks into the heavens... and prays!)  [8-|]

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    This is the second time you've mentioned this which I apparently missed (or forgot). Do you know where this was mentioned?

    The post by Bob was one. 

    Here is one where Bradley mentioned that personal books were less than... personal. 

    https://community.logos.com/forums/p/196544/1138462.aspx#1138462 

    Here is one (see two posts by Bradley) which mention PDF's and personal books

    https://community.logos.com/forums/p/194088/1119672.aspx#1119672 

    I have long desired personal books on mobile, but it is clear that FL has determined the feature is against their best interest. In that light, all hope should be tempered. Better to be surprised and delighted (if they change their minds) than disillusioned and disappointed. 

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,130

    Most of my PB's are things like lectionaries, sanctoral calendars, or self-generated materials. I knew that FL was not expanding the use of PB's because of the ways they were being used but I thought they were maintaining it for the essential functions it provides. Your posts made me question that assumption.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭

    Most of my PB's are things like lectionaries, sanctoral calendars, or self-generated materials

    I use personal books these days for my Bible study material, notes or sermons. It works great for me and I surely hope I will be able to continue doing this. It would be a huge loss for me if I could not.

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭

    The current state of PB's meets my needs well. Mobile access would be great, but I understand why it isn't likely. 

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    Just wondering if there are any "rumors" about what's going to be in Logos 10?

    I assume that everyone who knows such things has signed an NDA or ten.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 3,087

    I think were looking at 41 1/2 days, with a probability of approx 40%. And 72 days, with a probability of approx 35%. The remainder unknown.  Then, in the meantime, a library expansion sale,.

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,595 ✭✭✭

    Logos Daily on Facebook said “Something very big is coming…” If I remember correctly, Logos 7 released in late August (8/24/2016 to be exact).  So maybe Monday the Logos website will be unavailable due to a “big announcement,” as they always do.  Or maybe early September, no one really knows 😂 Anyway, it’ll be here before we know it.

    DAL

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    Logos Daily on Facebook said “Something very big is coming…”

    Still might not be a new Logos release, though.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Matt Hamrick
    Matt Hamrick Member Posts: 663 ✭✭

    Logos Daily "very big" comment had nothing to do with the release of the next version of Logos. It has to do with consolidating his user base to a new platform.

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,595 ✭✭✭

    Logos Daily "very big" comment had nothing to do with the release of the next version of Logos. It has to do with consolidating his user base to a new platform.

    Well, I never knew, but since same gimmick was used when L9 came out, there was no way of really knowing.

    DAL

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,130

    Logos Daily on Facebook said “Something very big is coming…”

    Isn't Logos Daily a separate company unrelated to Faithlife?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,595 ✭✭✭

    Logos Daily on Facebook said “Something very big is coming…”

    Isn't Logos Daily a separate company unrelated to Faithlife?

    Yes, but a similar announcement was made right before L9 came out. So makes you wonder if they know something Or they just have my gift of guessing (most of the time) when a new version of Logos comes out 😉 I even guessed the name “ Logos Ultimate!” 😂

    DAL

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,130

    Yes, but a similar announcement was made right before L9 came out. So makes you wonder if they know something

    I have no idea if they get advanced notice. Mo Proctor obviously does as he usually has "what's new in ..." available on release day. I suspect, but am less sure, that Fr. Devin Roza likely has advanced knowledge to produce his Verbum videos. As for the other unofficial Logos training sites, I've seen nothing to give away whether or not they have advanced knowledge. Yes, you do seem to hold the record for most accurate guesses.  Have you guessed the features of L10 yet?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭

    Well something caused me to wonder more today....

    Notice how all the complaints and questions are getting smaller? Seems like they are not as many now as there was a while back...

    Could FL be thinking.... "Well... we got everything calmed down... so let's not give another update for a while just rest while we can... so.... no Logos 10"... lol

    Hmmmmm...............

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!