23.0 RC-1 (23.0.28)

To change Logos 10 to the beta channel, enter the command Set update channel to beta in the Go Box. (Please see beta warnings and risks.)

To immediately update Logos 10 (if it is already set to beta channel), enter the Update Now command. Otherwise, the app will automatically update the next time it's scheduled to check for updates.

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    Seems to work now, thousand thanks!

    I took this picture in 1993 

    Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11

    Question: Has something been changed about Cloud resources in v23? I'm noticing that Cloud resources are showing up in my search results when I search a collection now (which wasn't the case before). I can see Cloud resources in Search when I search a collection but I still can't see Cloud resources when I actually open the collection in the Collection tool.

    Is this intentional? If so, it should be added to the release notes.

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    On separate note, you may want to be explicit in the release notes that the 'Update Resources' command is now 'Update Books'.

    I'm noticing that Cloud resources are showing up in my search results when I search a collection now (which wasn't the case before). I can see Cloud resources in Search when I search a collection but I still can't see Cloud resources when I actually open the collection in the Collection tool.

    The ability to search Cloud Books within a collection sounds like it might be an unintended side-effect of a change we made to ensure that tags, ratings, and series all included Cloud Books.

    Is it a bad thing or a good thing!?

    Is it a bad thing or a good thing!?

    I'm not sure yet. My first reaction was it's a bad thing because collections were how I was searching only downloaded resources while also including/excluding certain types of resources. It kills two birds with one stone. I'd actually like to see Cloud resources in collections for library management purposes. But having them be excluded from Search when I search a collection was actually serving a positive purpose for me.

    I know that doesn't really answer your question. But for me I'd like quicker/easier ways to search only my downloaded resources with precision (especially through exclusions, e.g. -bibles or -commentaries or -perseus, or -lectionaries). So my "Entire Library (No Bibles)" collection was serving as "Downloaded Books" minus Bibles, and now v23 renders that ineffective. My workaround was to create a new collection called "Downloaded Library (No Bibles)" with the rule "mytag:device -type:bibles". But that only works since I had already tagged all of my downloaded resources with the tag "device".

    On the other hand, I also want flexibility in library management, and it would be great to see all the books that meet a collection rule in Collections and in the Library and not just the downloaded ones. This would actually help me determine which books to download since I could just download a whole collection that I had already created. Currently I have to copy the collection rule into the library, but if I added resources to a collection manually instead of through a rule that doesn't work. I can't even see the resources I added manually to collections unless they're already downloaded, but if I can't see them in the collection I don't know to download them in the first place.

    Maybe knowing my use case helps you think about how to implement Cloud resources with Search and with Collections. Or maybe I just confused you further.

    Is it a bad thing or a good thing!?

    I just had another thought. I don't think I want Cloud resources showing up in my Guide sections like the Passage Guide collections. However, I do like the fact that they show up in the "Books From Your Library" section in the Factbook but not in the Dictionaries section.

    So again my answer is I'm not sure. There's a balance I need between researching using only the best part of my library, and having access to my whole library and discovering new resources when I don't find what I'm looking for. So with tools I'm using for research I want to focus on downloaded resources, but with tools I use for library management and discovery I want to see my whole library. Search is a hybrid case because I want to search my downloaded library by default but with the ability to include/exclude types of resources, but also have the flexibility to move to my whole library when I'm not finding what I'm looking for in my downloaded resources.

    I don't think I want Cloud resources showing up in my Guide sections like the Passage Guide collections.

    I do.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

    The ability to search Cloud Books within a collection sounds like it might be an unintended side-effect of a change we made to ensure that tags, ratings, and series all included Cloud Books.

    Is it a bad thing or a good thing!?

    I'd say it was bad design if you did not adequately specify and test for that side-effect.

    I don't want cloud resources in Collections, Guides etc. in any circumstances. If others like it then it should be a Setting.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

    I don't want cloud resources in Collections, Guides etc. in any circumstances. If others like it then it should be a Setting.

    Good idea.

    I don't want cloud resources in Collections, Guides etc. in any circumstances

    Just my thought, but this seems like shooting from the hip. I understand collections are made to search specific areas, or subjects, but at the same time there are things I'd like to have considered.

    Forgive me if I am misunderstanding here. I think this is a good thing.

    What if,  for whatever reason, I have not downloaded all the books for a collection I want to search? Especially in a large library.

    What about discovering something new in a resource that you didn't download because you may not have thought it was worthwhile before or you just underestimated it's value but it met part of the collection values I set up.

    It seems like there is an assumption here that cloud books are not worth searching and they are not in collections and not downloaded for that reason.

    I understand some may not want this but I think many would so I'd like to see a setting to save this feature unless someone can convince me otherwise.[:D]

    Too soon old. Too late smart.

    gretings,

    I'm running macOS Mojave (10.14) on my PC
    and my Logos is version 9

    when i typed 'Update Now' i received a response

    "no updates available"

    the other instance i have running on macOS Monterey update to version 22.0 with no issues.

    please kindly assist

    TIA