New Insights Sidebar on the web app

Vale a pena adicionar essa funcionalidade. Que seja opcional. Ativarmos quando quisermos. Tudo que vier agregar ao sistema é sempre bem vindo.

Good day Mark will the logos 10 starter be fine for this feature

Good day Mark will the logos 10 starter be fine for this feature

This is irrelevant. Go to app.logos.com and sign in and you should be good to go.

I think it is only in beta, so the site would be https://beta.app.logos.com/

Nope, I wish this was true but that insights is hindering me at app.logos.com.

Nope, I wish this was true but that insights is hindering me at app.logos.com.

Simply close it. It is an optional sidebar.

I think it is only in beta,

It's still labeled as beta but it appears on the main app.

I don’t like it.  It’s something that I have to turn off every time.  Takes up space.

Thanks for the feedback. It might take a few weeks, but we'll make sure that the sidebar remembers that it has been toggled off, so you don't have to do it more than once.

let's harness the power of AI to revolutionize the experience

We're currently experimenting with a bunch of AI-assisted features. AI-assisted search is already available for testing, and it recently gained a summarization feature. But we're looking at several other AI-assisted features too –  although whether that work will converge with the work on the Insights sidebar, it's too early to tell.

Good day Mark can you say on what platform the passage guide will be quicker to get new feature, like the cross reference using the treasury of scripture, biblical people and places and systematic theology, as I am limited to mobile and tablet only don’t have laptop or desktop. So can only use web app also. So we on mobile cant make use of logos like desktop. So example the systematic theology we cant make use in passage guide so I don’t see a need to get it on logos if it only works as normal reading book. So for me it’s the same to get in a physical book instead of logos.

We'd love for the Passage Guide to be equivalent across all our platforms, because we know how useful it is. We're hoping to be able to make some improvements to the Cross References section of the Passage Guide on mobile and web in the next few months. Other improvements may take us longer, but it's good to hear they would be valued.

experimenting with a bunch of AI-assisted features

The Artifact news app just added a bunch of AI text-to-speech voices and they sound amazingly natural and engaging (as opposed to the still-mechanical, monotonous voices available to iOS / Logos desktop).

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/27/23810160/artifact-ai-text-to-speech-read-news-snoop-dogg-gwyneth-paltrow-speechify

Any chance Logos will look into these natural voices to the mobile and desktop apps?

Do I understand this feature correct. It will only appear when there is a passage in the Old Testament related to New Testament verse. So what type of resources should one look at to make fully use of this feature as I only own the Harmony so on my side it only works on the gospels as I dont own any New Testament based on the Old Testament resources. Can you recommend what to lack at.

Great feature! The easier it 1s to surface Info related to the passagethe better. Keep developing and add more Source's

Exactly. Due to limitations with the mobile app, I predominately use the web app on my Chromebook. That it automatically pops up is frustrating. The sidebar is already large, Insights takes up even more column space that I'd prefer to actually be my Bible. 

The web app already has the "Open a Commentary" button which I use, and is more useful than the snippets provide by the Insights bar. 

It is very annoying. I often have several bibles open at once, and every time I open the web app I have to go through and hide the tab in each of them. Is there a way of having it hidden by default? I wouldn't use it, but it wouldn't bother me nearly as much if it was just another item on the bar above the resource I could turn on or off. With its being on by default it is super annoying, and so far I haven't found a way to make it off by default. Any help would be appreciated.

It bothers me that it automatically opens every time I do a passage search. Far better would be if it were an optional feature for the user.

It is very annoying. I often have several bibles open at once, and every time I open the web app I have to go through and hide the tab in each of them. Is there a way of having it hidden by default? I wouldn't use it, but it wouldn't bother me nearly as much if it was just another item on the bar above the resource I could turn on or off. With its being on by default it is super annoying, and so far I haven't found a way to make it off by default. Any help would be appreciated.

It bothers me that it automatically opens every time I do a passage search. Far better would be if it were an optional feature for the user.

Perhaps you missed it but Mark Barnes has already responded to a similar critique earlier in the thread (https://community.logos.com/forums/p/217415/1266627.aspx#1266627) with an indication that this would be addressed.

I like it! Think it's very useful.

• Que mudanças você faria?

Tenha um botão para enviar a presente passagem para o guia de passagem para um estudo mais aprofundado.

R= isso já consigo fazer clicando no texto principal da Bíblia (na lateral esquerda)

• Que informações adicionais gostaria de ver?

Tipos adicionais de recursos que eu usaria para um estudo casual: referências cruzadas, um dicionário bíblico como LBD chaveado para termos-chave, algo como o Dicionário de Temas Bíblicos, novamente chaveado. Não sei se isso é pedir demais ou se poderia ser feito sem sobrecarregar o painel.

R= algumas dessas coisas já consigo fazer clicando no texto bíblico. Ele me dá várias opções de buscas elementares.

• Vale a pena trazer isso para desktop ou mobile?

Por favor, traga para a área de trabalho, pelo menos. Embora eu goste do que você fez com o aplicativo web, raramente tenho necessidade de usá-lo. Não vejo isso mudando tão cedo.

R= seria interessante mesmo.

It is frustrating that it opens automatically for each Bible currently open. It needs to be an optional feature for sure

I agree with Sean on each point he made!

What type of resources is recommended to make proper use of this feature 

Greetings. How do you disable widget? I'm studying in the same book and so i don't need to see it every time I launch Logos. Thanks.

HW Scott, Five Minutes in the Word Podcast

That is my complaint! 🫥 It should pop up only once!

I find the feature annoying. I'd sooner see the web app have the capability for creating bookmarks. I've looked in the support forums for this feature but it seems I can only do this with the desktop app. Thanks.

Hola, que Dios les continue bendiciendo.

Me gusta la idea, de poder consultar rápidamente un comentario desde la misma ventana de la Biblia, pero sería bueno también que deje ver el comentario completo de cada versículo, ya que cuando es muy largo no se puede continuar leyendo y hay que abrir aparte el recurso para poder leerlo completo.  

I like this feature.

I love it.

At this point, too many features are missing, so it has become cumbersome for me.

1. I miss a general setting to turn off this sidebar as a matter of course for all resources.
2. The information that is displayed is too little to examine. An option to scroll down to read more would be helpful.
3. The sidebar has the potential to quickly display several predefined commentaries, but there is only one study Bible and only one commentary that can be selected. And the study bible can't even be turned off and vise versa.

It is a song that Patty Loveless sang.  Nothing biblical just a song someone wrote. 

Pra mim foi extremamente útil nos primeiros minutos. Acabei de descobrir e achei fantástica a ferramenta, e na minha humilde opnião, melhora em muito o fluxo de estudo para uma consulta rápida, fora que economiza espaço na tela. Pra mim, extremamente útil.

Mark, this is awesome! Please keep it. I like the idea of a quick glance at some of my resources related to the current topic I'm studying. IT'S A KEEPER!!! [Y]

I would like to be able to prioritize the commentaries instead of it highlighting the top one on the drop-down list.  For example, depending on the paper I'm working on, I might pull Jon Courson's Application Commentary to the top, but for a different paper I might pull a different one to the top.

How do you turn it on and off so it is not your default setting

How do you turn it on and off so it is not your default setting

You don't ... it is still a beta feature.

I would like to be able to prioritize the commentaries instead of it highlighting the top one on the drop-down list. 

My drop-down list is in priority order ...

Mark, for series such as Hermeneaia or Anchor, the sidebar opens to the translation not the commentary

Mark, for series such as Hermeneaia or Anchor, the sidebar opens to the translation not the commentary

Could you give me a specific example? I tried a few test cases, and it worked fine then.

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This is where I first noticed it. I had just moved from the first chapter of Mark.

Thanks. Where there are duplicate milestones in a book, it's hard to know which one to choose, so I doubt we'll get it right all the time. But for these cards, we try to choose the smallest range, which in this case, should be the comments on vv 1-3a. We've already got a case to fix that bug, so hopefully that will bring some improvement here too.

I like it!!!! Helpful!!!

Amazing.

Thanks a lot Logos' team.

Love it. Especially when it is showing on the sidebar. Should bring to desktop and ipads.

At this point it's not helpful, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to get Logos to not open Insights by default.  I usually have other resources chosen in other parts of my layout, and Insights takes up more horizontal space than I want to give up.

But that said, it could be useful if it shows me useful resources. I don't have much faith that an AI-based selection will be worth the horizontal space, but who knows?

The main change - I would like to make the default state of Insights to be hidden, not shown. I can find the button if I want to see it. My best insights have always come from the word of God itself, and I'm cautious about what things (with the best intention) might color my lenses uncritically.

Desktop - maybe. Mobile - be careful. Screen real estate is precious there, as are clock cycles. I'd rather not have something like this intruding on my workflow on the web. It could really annoy me on mobile.

I'm having trouble figuring out how to get Logos to not open Insights by default. 

It is currently in beta and "on" by default. There isn't currently a way to set it "off" by default... you have to manually do so. This will not always be the case. 

I hope this remains on the web app and doesn't come to desktop. If it does come to desktop then we need a setting to turn it on and off.

If it does come to desktop then we need a setting to turn it on and off.

If it comes (probably will) it will have an on/off. 

The web app allows Logos to try new things out... right now this in in beta and haven't coded the on/off switch yet (plus they want as many people to try it as possible).

If it does come to desktop then we need a setting to turn it on and off.

If it comes (probably will) it will have an on/off. 

The web app allows Logos to try new things out... right now this in in beta and haven't coded the on/off switch yet (plus they want as many people to try it as possible).

I understand but it's in the way. I no longer use the web app because every time I load my bible is open because that's how I prefer it to open and the insights is invading my space. Yeah I have to click it off. Every time I use the web app so I just stopped using it.

I don't have much faith that an AI-based selection will be worth the horizontal space, but who knows?

Why do you say AI-based selection? It appears to me to be based on my prioritization but I don't recall seeing anything stating either way.

I no longer use the web app because every time I load my bible is open because that's how I prefer it to open and the insights is invading my space.

At some point, what you want (or don't want!) will be fixed on the web app. 

I like the concept, but I will already have a study bible and commentary opened and linked (I'm a 3 panel guy).

What I would want to see here are "hidden gems" of some sort, i.e.

key words,

key Greek/Hebrew words with a link to a lexicon,

textual variants,

Bible comparison of the verse from my top 5 bibles,

key timeline events.

I don't like that it eats up half of the bible tab, I would prefer it be in a separate tab maybe. 

I believe this should be available also in the desktop app, but since I am not a fan of the mobile app I defer to those who do.

I like that you continue to develop the Web App.  I am using this more and more.  Thank you.