ATTENTION: New Touch Gestures

With the newest beta update (version 32.0), we have implemented new (or old, depending on how you think of it) touch gestures when reading a book on the mobile app. They are as follows:

Single tap = show/hide menus
Double tap = select the verse
Long press = select one word

Prior to Logos 10, a single tap would show or hide the top and bottom toolbars. We changed that behavior with the Logos 10 release, but after gathering significant data from all of you, we have reinstated the single tap behavior to show and/or hide the top and bottom toolbars.

We appreciate hearing your feedback on these changes while the new gestures are in the beta app. Please let us know what you think in comments below. Thank you!

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DMB

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

And just in time. I took the Verbum mobile off my Mac M1 and it erased my Verbum desktop. So, now, the mobile can return home to my iPad!

Hallelujah! Finally! Thank you Logos!

Morgan

Please keep it like this. The previous way was so frustrating and made navigation a chore. I switched to the mobile beta just for this feature alone. Never get rid of it please.

Graham Criddle

Prior to Logos 10, a single tap would show or hide the top and bottom toolbars. We changed that behavior with the Logos 10 release, but after gathering significant data from all of you, we have reinstated the single tap behavior to show and/or hide the top and bottom toolbars.

This is really good to see - thanks Ali and team

Jan Krohn

YES!!! Thank you!!!!!

Yes! 👌👌

JT (alabama24)

Please let us know what you think

...Now if you would only add back in the location indicator...

Daniel Norwood

Ali,

I am using an iPad Pro. The touch gestures are great in Logos mobile.

Does Logos have any plans to take advantage of Trackpad support on iPad? I can use a trackpad to highlight and copy text in a Key Article in Factbook like I would on a Mac.

In notes, commentaries, Bible texts, the trackpad mimics touch gestures. When using a trackpad for mobile on iPad, I would love to be able to highlight text like I do on a Mac.

Daniel Norwood

Ali,

I am using an iPad Pro. The touch gestures are great in Logos mobile.

Does Logos have any plans to take advantage of Trackpad support on iPad? I can use a trackpad to highlight and copy text in a Key Article in Factbook like I would on a Mac.

In notes, commentaries, Bible texts, the trackpad mimics touch gestures. When using a trackpad for mobile on iPad, I would love to be able to highlight text like I do on a Mac.

Jonathan Sheehy

Great change!

Wild Eagle

I still have 31.0.2 version and it shows on Apple Store as the latest version

JT (alabama24)

I still have 31.0.2 version and it shows on Apple Store as the latest version

Correct. As of my post, 31.0.2 is the current version. This is the BETA forum, so the announcement is about a FUTURE edition of the app.

Wild Eagle

Correct. As of my post, 31.0.2 is the current version. This is the BETA forum, so the announcement is about a FUTURE edition of the app.

My bad habit to scan the info instead of reading it

Robert Kelbe

I may have even suggested something like this in the beta of the new menu, but I have to say I did really grow to like the single tap to select verses and sentences, especially for highlighting on iPad with the pencil. It will take time to see how I get used to tapping twice to select verses and sentences, but I hope I will get used to it…

Wild Eagle

I love this change. Finally I can touch highlighted verses and it brings me to menus. Before it was hard to navigate or select a verse, or word if I had few verses highlighted.

Sam Shelton

I joined the Android mobile beta for the sole reason of evaluating the new touch gestures. All I can say, is thank you, thank you, thank you!

This new change will make it so much easier to navigate when I am using my tablet, particularly when I am moving back and forth within a layout - such as during small group sessions.

Robert Kelbe

I may have even suggested something like this in the beta of the new menu, but I have to say I did really grow to like the single tap to select verses and sentences, especially for highlighting on iPad with the pencil. It will take time to see how I get used to tapping twice to select verses and sentences, but I hope I will get used to it…

My initial impressions: I get impatient pressing and holding (and waiting) to open the word info card, compared to the quicker double-tap. Similarly, the double-tap to select a sentence or verse requires more finesse when hitting the screen with the tip of the apple pencil. It's easy to touch the correct verse once, harder to hit it with the necessary double-tap, especially when holding the iPad in one hand. I was always OK tapping at the top to open the menu, so I don't understand the criticism of the new (old) system. However, given the popularity of these new changes, I don't expect them to change.

However, I did notice one significant drawback which I hope can be addressed. In the previous system, I could tap on an existing highlight and the highlight would be automatically selected. (For example, if the highlight was a single word, or 2 sentences, tapping on the highlight would select the single word, or the two sentences, rather than the default sentence). Then I could very easily change the highlight style.

Now, however, it always selects the sentence when I double-tap, even if there is an existing highlight. To access the existing highlight, I have to manually drag to select the exact same selection as the existing highlight.

This is a huge loss of functionality for me, as I am often going back and changing existing highlights.

Robert Kelbe

For what it's worth, I would love to see the single-tap, double-tap, and long press behaviors as program setting options...

Morgan

However, I did notice one significant drawback which I hope can be addressed. In the previous system, I could tap on an existing highlight and the highlight would be automatically selected. (For example, if the highlight was a single word, or 2 sentences, tapping on the highlight would select the single word, or the two sentences, rather than the default sentence). Then I could very easily change the highlight style.

Now, however, it always selects the sentence when I double-tap, even if there is an existing highlight. To access the existing highlight, I have to manually drag to select the exact same selection as the existing highlight.

This is a huge loss of functionality for me, as I am often going back and changing existing highlights.

I noted the same thing in one of my posts. Hoping it gets some attention.

Brad

For what it's worth, I would love to see the single-tap, double-tap, and long press behaviors as program setting options...

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Wild Eagle

However, I did notice one significant drawback which I hope can be addressed. In the previous system, I could tap on an existing highlight and the highlight would be automatically selected. (For example, if the highlight was a single word, or 2 sentences, tapping on the highlight would select the single word, or the two sentences, rather than the default sentence). Then I could very easily change the highlight style.

Now, however, it always selects the sentence when I double-tap, even if there is an existing highlight. To access the existing highlight, I have to manually drag to select the exact same selection as the existing highlight.

This is a huge loss of functionality for me, as I am often going back and changing existing highlights.

I noted the same thing in one of my posts. Hoping it gets some attention.

Just simply select the highlight and change the style. Before it was so hard to select a verse for guides, text comparisons, when it was covered with highlights. i use much more guides instead of replacing highlights.

Rob Rice

i would like the ability to one click highlighted text so that i can copy it. i had this ....and then yesterday lost it.

Rob Rice

yes its a huge loss. terrible

Sam Shelton

Perhaps Logos could add a “copy” choice as in my screenshot. This would make it easier for those who seek to copy highlights in whole, as opposed to in part.

Mark

I joined the Android mobile beta for the sole reason of evaluating the new touch gestures.

I also joined the beta program a year ago (see thread here) but have never been contacted about it.

Anderson Abreu

Please keep it like this. The previous way was so frustrating and made navigation a chore. I switched to the mobile beta just for this feature alone. Never get rid of it please.

YES!!! [Y]

James Clark

I have not noticed any new touch gestures with voiceover on iphone on beta, I am guessing that voiceover was not tested and its up to us who use it to figure it out if anything changed... it does seam slightly easier to select text, though it would be nice to have feedback when selecting or to have a text selection menu feedback or to edit the text selected... the close button is a nice addition...