Mark Barnes: Question on Subscription Tiers
I have brought this up in a couple of threads, but I think it gets barried in the discussion.
Concerning the three subscription tiers:
My only concern with subscriptions is still with the tiered system cost vs what I already own. I would want the academic tier for whatever feature sets it will include; however, I assume it will also come with several academic resources besides the feature sets, which will be baked into the monthly cost. Chances are, I already own most, if not all of the academic resources to be included, so I will be paying again for resources I already own, and I'm paying the same price as someone else who doesn't own any of those resources.
At least this is my understanding. Can you add any clarity to this?
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Thanks for this post. I also find an idea that keeps getting buried:
Have a basic pick list of what we want. E.G. a subscription tier for Academic features with or without resources.
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Disclaimer: I have not seen the exact list of licenses included in the various tiers. However, I hope I can give you some clarity on your question.
We are thinking about subscription tiers as access to the software features and platform (very similar to "feature sets" of the past).
Meanwhile, the plan is for libraries to remain purchased and licensed the same as today (transactional, permanent licensees).
Because features are powered by some books/datasets, there may be a small number included in the subscription merely to power the features. There is no dynamic pricing on those, however they are not significant contributors to the subscription price so it's a bit moot.
If there sufficient customer interest, we may offer subscriptions to libraries in the future but that isn't a focus right now.
I hope that helps.
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Alan Palmer (Logos) said:
Because features are powered by some books/datasets, there may be a small number included in the subscription merely to power the features. There is no dynamic pricing on those, however they are not significant contributors to the subscription price so it's a bit moot.
Are you saying that the current 430+ books with Early Start will be drastically reduced? I trust there will not be the issue with minimal access-only datasets of the past where Person/Place/Thing was included but Bible Referents was omitted.
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Alan Palmer (Logos) said:
We are thinking about subscription tiers as access to the software features and platform (very similar to "feature sets" of the past).
Meanwhile, the plan is for libraries to remain purchased and licensed the same as today (transactional, permanent licensees).
This sounds like my main concerns about the subscription model have been addressed. Now we have to wait for the cost of the tiers.
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Alan Palmer (Logos) said:
Because features are powered by some books/datasets, there may be a small number included in the subscription merely to power the features. There is no dynamic pricing on those, however they are not significant contributors to the subscription price so it's a bit moot.
Thanks for the update Alan! I'm excited to see how everything works out at official launch of the new release.
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Alan Palmer (Logos) said:
Because features are powered by some books/datasets, there may be a small number included in the subscription merely to power the features. There is no dynamic pricing on those, however they are not significant contributors to the subscription price so it's a bit moot.
I just wanted to swing back around to this, as it sounds like we are still talking about the final products having 200-500 books included to enhance functionality. It's hard to fathom that these resources aren't figured into the pricing model spread out across the subscriptions in some way.
There has to be some material difference between a subscription where I own all 500 resources vs. one where someone owns 0 of the 500 resources.
I'm ultimately not worried about it, but I think this is something that needs to be explained in more detail early on; otherwise, I think this will present stumbling blocks for subscribers at launch.
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Joseph Turner said:
There has to be some material difference between a subscription where I own all 500 resources vs. one where someone owns 0 of the 500 resources.
[Y][Y] Faithlife Connect/NO RESOURCES already exists (although it is being deprecated) Logos figured this out when the LN moved to FC and there was an uprising on increased fees, principle still remains.
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Joseph Turner said:
My only concern with subscriptions is still with the tiered system cost vs what I already own. I would want the academic tier for whatever feature sets it will include; however, I assume it will also come with several academic resources besides the feature sets, which will be baked into the monthly cost. Chances are, I already own most, if not all of the academic resources to be included, so I will be paying again for resources I already own, and I'm paying the same price as someone else who doesn't own any of those resources.
At least this is my understanding. Can you add any clarity to this?
The price of the subscriptions is mostly focused on the included features. We've added books into the subscription for two reasons. Firstly, so that new customers can use a subscription without needing to also commit to buying a library. And second, as a perk for existing customers who might benefit from some of the books that are included.
We know that many existing customers will already own many of those books, and many of those features. Because of that prior ownership, we're offering a substantial discount to L10 owners on the cost of a subscription.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
We know that many existing customers will already own many of those books, and many of those features. Because of that prior ownership, we're offering a substantial discount to L10 owners on the cost of a subscription.
Thanks Mark, and I know you are jumping from thread to thread, so I wanted to post your response to another thread here for those who aren't reading all of them, which I think is more clear:
Mark Barnes (Logos) said:We're planning to have two separate price tracks, one for new customers and one for L10 owners. The tracks are priced independently; they have no fixed discount percentage. You will be able to stay on the track you start on, but – as with all subscriptions – the price of the subscription could change over time. If that were to happen, we would decide any price changes on each track independently of those on the other track.
This is closer to answering my concerns. I'm good with this and then will wait and see! Thanks for your willingness to face such questions!
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
We know that many existing customers will already own many of those books, and many of those features. Because of that prior ownership, we're offering a substantial discount to L10 owners on the cost of a subscription.
What about people who own L10 feature and all/almost all the books in the subscription? I am morally opposed to paying for the same product twice. The books might represent only $3/month out of $12.99/month subscription, but multiply the $3/month over 40 years increasing at the rate of 10% per year, the amount is not small anymore.
Logos has pioneered dynamic price. In terms of implementation, at its core, it is as simple as assigning every resource/feature in every package a value. So dynamic pricing is easy to implement in my non-techie eyes.
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1Cor10 31 said:Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
We know that many existing customers will already own many of those books, and many of those features. Because of that prior ownership, we're offering a substantial discount to L10 owners on the cost of a subscription.
What about people who own L10 feature and all/almost all the books in the subscription? I am morally opposed to paying for the same product twice. The books might represent only $3/month out of $12.99/month subscription, but multiply the $3/month over 40 years increasing at the rate of 10% per year, the amount is not small anymore.
Logos has pioneered dynamic price. In terms of implementation, at its core, it is as simple as assigning every resource/feature in every package a value. So dynamic pricing is easy to implement in my non-techie eyes.
At least offer a "features only" option for those with no need or desire for the books, should they choose to subscribe. IIRC, there has been a "no library" subscription for a while.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
We know that many existing customers will already own many of those books, and many of those features. Because of that prior ownership, we're offering a substantial discount to L10 owners on the cost of a subscription.
I clicked on the email that Logos sent me yesterday and I don't see any discounts. I already have Logos Pro (early discount), I am a Connect Essentials (no library) subscriber, I also have an Academic discount currently in place and I own Logos 10 with pretty much all the books in this tier along with the full feature sets. The price that I am seeing offered is $24.99.
If the discounts are yet to come, no probs, but your statement seems to indicate from above the offering is already out (at least in part), so I wanted to make sure that I am not missing something.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
I clicked on the email that Logos sent me yesterday
Looks like the rollout has started. I’m curious when I will get my email and how much the subscription will be for me.
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Armin said:
Looks like the rollout has started. I’m curious when I will get my email and how much the subscription will be for me.
I have never gotten any emails. I think it probably depends on having certain marketing settings enabled in your profile. I never get any marketing emails of any kind.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
We know that many existing customers will already own many of those books, and many of those features. Because of that prior ownership, we're offering a substantial discount to L10 owners on the cost of a subscription.
I clicked on the email that Logos sent me yesterday and I don't see any discounts. I already have Logos Pro (early discount), I am a Connect Essentials (no library) subscriber, I also have an Academic discount currently in place and I own Logos 10 with pretty much all the books in this tier along with the full feature sets. The price that I am seeing offered is $24.99.
If the discounts are yet to come, no probs, but your statement seems to indicate from above the offering is already out (at least in part), so I wanted to make sure that I am not missing something.
Donovan, you're possibly seeing the bug Mark addresses below.... I allowed the trial to expire a few days ago and I can see the discounted prices, seems that those subscribed are having the issue...
Mark Barnes (Logos) said:DAL said:So, how come only a few have been offered the $12.99 Logos Max subscription early adopter’s price? I, too, own the L10 full features set and previous versions full features sets also. I got on board with Logos Pro to support the new subscription model, but now it turns out others are getting “early access” to a higher tier subscription for less.
Cross-posting from another thread for maximum visibility:
I apologise. There is a bug which we are actively fixing that means that existing early access subscribers see the full price rather than the discounted price. Apparently, it's a pretty gnarly bug and it might take several days to fix. In the meantime, if you call in or email, our support representatives will be able to help out.
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In Mark’s original announcement of the new subscription models, Mark stated:
”If you subscribe to those products, we’ll contact you later in the year to explain how you can painlessly switch to the new subscription. Until then, we recommend keeping your existing subscription to ensure you don’t lose any perks, features, or books. In the meantime, you could add Logos Pro to your existing subscription if you’re eligible.”
So I assume that I will be contacted even without being on the marketing email list.
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Mark Barnes - hopefully you can answer this.
First of all, you have incredible patience and I commend you. I think you have done a wonderful job explaining things, even though you have had to do so multiple times.
My situation:
I am a subscriber to Logos Connect and also Logos Pro (early access).I also own the Logos 10 full-feature set.
I can see the available new subscription options on this page:
https://www.logos.com/early-access/subscriptionsMy Connect subscription expires in August.
I am paying $9.99 for Logos Pro early access.What do you recommend I do? Wait until connect expires and switch to the new one? Or something else?
I appreciate your input.
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I'm pretty sure each tier will have it's own help file, right? Or a filtered help file? Or yellow highlighted red, caps, bold, italicized letters: "You do not subscribe to this" with a link to subscribe?
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Mark
Please give some clarity to the 3 tiers.
1. Under Original Languages, are there books added to Pro and Max or features?
2. Under Study breadth, are there books added to Pro and Max or features?
Also please give some clarity for those of us who are currently subscribed to FL Connect and Early Access Pro
1. I did not receive any email about a discount for currently being subscribed to FL Connect and Early Access Pro
2. The Subscription page does not show any discounts
3. How long can I wait before needing to switch to subscription before losing a discount?
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Mark, I have the same questions. Those of us that have been on the 'subscription' version of Logos via Connect (and Logos Now) for years are still waiting for word about our future. I also have the early Pro version.
I hear the call to be patient, but as details for others unfold, I would like to see some resolution or at least a clear statement of what will be upcoming for long term Connect users.
I also would like more clarity on the differences between Pro and Max. Currently, they look very similar, but will there be a larger distinction in the area of language studies in the near future? While I am a pastor, I retain interest in languages as it relates to pastoral study (not academic).
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Armin said:
So I assume that I will be contacted even without being on the marketing email list.
That's correct. As a service update, subscription migration messaging will be sent to all existing subscribers even if they're not signed up to marketing messaging.
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Jerry Bush said:
What do you recommend I do? Wait until connect expires and switch to the new one? Or something else?
I will raise this with the person in charge of migrations and one of us will get back to you.
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GaoLu said:
I'm pretty sure each tier will have it's own help file, right? Or a filtered help file? Or yellow highlighted red, caps, bold, italicized letters: "You do not subscribe to this" with a link to subscribe?
This is a problem we currently have with Starter, Bronze, Silver, etc.
But subscription does give us an opportunity to add indicators into the help file, perhaps to show which features are available in which tiers – assuming we're able to keep it up-to-date, of course.
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Mark said:
1. Under Original Languages, are there books added to Pro and Max or features?
2. Under Study breadth, are there books added to Pro and Max or features?
All the books included are listed at the bottom of the page. You can see them by clicking on "Included Books".
For example, Max includes more Greek/Hebrew grammars and technical commentaries.
Mark said:I did not receive any email about a discount for currently being subscribed to FL Connect and Early Access Pro
I think you were probably excluded because you already had a subscription. We're not yet geared up for upgrades/downgrades between tiers.
Mark said:The Subscription page does not show any discounts
This is a bug that existing subscribers are experiencing. We hope to get it fixed this week.
Mark said:How long can I wait before needing to switch to subscription before losing a discount?
A long time. I'm sorry that's vague. What it means is that we haven't set an end date. So, I don't know the last date eligible customers can get onto the discount track, but I know it won't close during 2024.
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Danny Parker said:
I hear the call to be patient, but as details for others unfold, I would like to see some resolution or at least a clear statement of what will be upcoming for long term Connect users.
Today, I've raised these with the person responsible for the migration plans. I am genuinely sorry I can't give you more details right now. It's not the fault of the person responsible – there are lots of moving parts, and many decisions are dependent on other decisions and sometimes on writing code to support different scenarios. That's our problem, not your problem, and it's not an excuse. But I am pushing for answers ASAP on behalf of customers like you.
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Mark,
Could you clarify the situation concerning the Legacy Fallback License? Is it only owners of L10 who are eligible for it? Or what exactly qualifies one to be eligible for this? I see the pricing to be problematic for users with no discount. If they do qualify for the Legacy Fallback License, what's to stop them from cancelling their subscription and going on the discounted track after two years? If they do not qualify, they are paying a lot of money to never gain ownership of any features. Why not have only one payment track with the Legacy Fallback License being an optional add-on? Obviously those who already own the full feature set would automatically qualify for it, while users who do not would have to purchase it in addition to the subscription.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
For example, Max includes more Greek/Hebrew grammars and technical commentaries.
Mark
This is not clear enough. Let me ask it differently.
The ony difference between Premium, Pro and Max is AI and Sermon builder/manager/assistant. The rest are just resources, correct? I am asking because it appears that I have just about all the resources offered in Max
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Thanks Mark. That satisfies me for the time being. You indicated in another thread that most Connect users should qualify for the discount. I have the Pro discount, so it would follow that I should get the Max discount as well. So assuming this will be so, I will be very happy. When it actually occurs is less important. And with only a $2.50 a month difference, it doesn't matter if initially Max doesn't differ much from Pro, I'm all in. The entire cost is less than the typical TV streaming offerings and way more useful.[:D]
My overall take is that with the discounted prices, this subscription rollout is a really good deal. I liked Connect and this beats that. And if it provides a predictable revenue stream for Logos, it is a win-win. I'm all for being part of a healthy company with my massive investment already in the company.
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Mark said:
The ony difference between Premium, Pro and Max is AI and Sermon builder/manager/assistant. The rest are just resources, correct? I am asking because it appears that I have just about all the resources offered in Max
Mark Barnes commented in another thread that pro and max subscribers would also receive a 5% annual credit on money spent, insinuating that premium subscribers would not.Thus, it's worth considering differences in perks in addition to resources and features when considering the most fitting subscription.
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Mark (not Barnes),
On another thread Mark Barnes posted the following about Pro/Max being the same:
"Right now, that is true. If you already own the L10 full feature set there are currently no additional features in Max that aren't in Pro. If you don't already own the L10 full feature set, there are significant differences – for example, syntactic databases, dead sea scrolls and other related literature, and more.
Over time, that will change. We will create new features that are only available in Max. But we have not done that yet."
(Sorry that I did not know how to quote it correctly [H]))
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Aaron Hamilton said:
Could you clarify the situation concerning the Legacy Fallback License? Is it only owners of L10 who are eligible for it? Or what exactly qualifies one to be eligible for this?
That's still being worked out, I'm afraid.
Right now, we're focusing on existing users because they're the ones who are often keenest to get the new features. So that's what Bill's announcement addressed, along with the discounted pricing for that group.
Future updates will confirm other eligibility criteria.
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Mark said:
The ony difference between Premium, Pro and Max is AI and Sermon builder/manager/assistant. The rest are just resources, correct? I am asking because it appears that I have just about all the resources offered in Max
Right now, the only difference in new features between Premium on the one hand, and Pro and Max on the other is Sermon Assistant. There are some differences in perks, too.
But these subscriptions aren't just for existing customers who already own the L10 Full Feature Set. If you do NOT already own the L10 full feature set, then there are significant differences between Pro and Max. For example, the following are exclusive to Logos Max:
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Sentence Diagramming
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Syntax Searches and Clause Visualizations
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Ancient Literature Dataset
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Grammatical Relationships datasets
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Discourse Grammar datasets
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Automatic Translation Tool
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Morph Query Engine
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Online Manuscripts Dataset
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Original language editions of the Septuagint, Vulgate, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.
But, if you own L10 Full Featureset you will already own these tools and datasets.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
Right now, we're focusing on existing users because they're the ones who are often keenest to get the new features. So that's what Bill's announcement addressed, along with the discounted pricing for that group.
Thank you, Mark. That makes sense. I suppose it was the bug of early access subscribers not being able to upgrade at the discounted price that thrust the non-discounted pricing into focus. It seems to me that the current (non-discounted) pricing is quite steep for the pool of users Logos would attract. I would hope that subscriptions that do not include eventual ownership will end up being cheaper when they officially roll out in the Fall in order to attract a wider user base.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:Jerry Bush said:
What do you recommend I do? Wait until connect expires and switch to the new one? Or something else?
I will raise this with the person in charge of migrations and one of us will get back to you.
I'm wondering about this as well. Were we supposed to receive an email about subscription migrations?
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Jonathan Bradley said:
I'm wondering about this as well. Were we supposed to receive an email about subscription migrations?
I'd hoped we would be able to send an email soon, but working out all the details for every subscription has proved more complex than we hoped. It's an important priority for us, but it's going to take us a little while longer.
It will all be sorted by launch, of course, but I know that many of you are eager to know now.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
It will all be sorted by launch, of course, but I know that many of you are eager to know now.
Yes, I certainly do. I want to know what to do about my connect sub that is up in August.
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I'm only running on a few hours sleep, so maybe that's the problem, but to me it feels like this pricing scheme would add an unwanted layer of complexity and potential confusion. But maybe I just need a few more hours of sleep. 🥴Aaron Hamilton said:Mark,
Could you clarify the situation concerning the Legacy Fallback License? Is it only owners of L10 who are eligible for it? Or what exactly qualifies one to be eligible for this? I see the pricing to be problematic for users with no discount. If they do qualify for the Legacy Fallback License, what's to stop them from cancelling their subscription and going on the discounted track after two years? If they do not qualify, they are paying a lot of money to never gain ownership of any features. Why not have only one payment track with the Legacy Fallback License being an optional add-on? Obviously those who already own the full feature set would automatically qualify for it, while users who do not would have to purchase it in addition to the subscription.
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Thank you, Mark! For me, that's one of the best clarification posts I've read. 😊Mark Barnes (Logos) said:Mark said:The ony difference between Premium, Pro and Max is AI and Sermon builder/manager/assistant. The rest are just resources, correct? I am asking because it appears that I have just about all the resources offered in Max
Right now, the only difference in new features between Premium on the one hand, and Pro and Max on the other is Sermon Assistant. There are some differences in perks, too.
But these subscriptions aren't just for existing customers who already own the L10 Full Feature Set. If you do NOT already own the L10 full feature set, then there are significant differences between Pro and Max. For example, the following are exclusive to Logos Max:
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Sentence Diagramming
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Syntax Searches and Clause Visualizations
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Ancient Literature Dataset
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Grammatical Relationships datasets
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Discourse Grammar datasets
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Automatic Translation Tool
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Morph Query Engine
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Online Manuscripts Dataset
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Original language editions of the Septuagint, Vulgate, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.
But, if you own L10 Full Featureset you will already own these tools and datasets.
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Rick Ausdahl said:
I'm only running on a few hours sleep, so maybe that's the problem, but to me it feels like this pricing scheme would add an unwanted layer of complexity and potential confusion. But maybe I just need a few more hours of sleep. 🥴
To be sure, any decent pricing scheme will have to navigate a fair amount of confusion and complexity. By offering a legacy Fallback License, this has become necessary. With the current pricing, a customer will have to pay 350 per year for the full feature set and will have ownership of no features to show for it. If indeed the legacy Fallback License is included, after two years, they will have ownership of just as many features as their peers who are on the discounted track. No doubt this will be problematic, as they will not be happy to pay over twice as much for the same product. If the License is not included, that would be a massive price for only renting the features. I'm simply saying this area will need some attention before the final rollout in the Fall. And yes, due to the legacy Fallback License, the issue is complex and confusing.
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Aaron Hamilton said:
By offering a legacy Fallback License, this has become necessary. With the current pricing, a customer will have to pay 350 per year for the full feature set and will have ownership of no features to show for it. If indeed the legacy Fallback License is included, after two years, they will have ownership of just as many features as their peers who are on the discounted track. No doubt this will be problematic, as they will not be happy to pay over twice as much for the same product. If the License is not included, that would be a massive price for only renting the features.
We've been wrestling with this dilemma for some time. We want to support customers who've spent a lot of money on our existing licenses and ensure that no one feels their investment wasn't worthwhile. At the same time, we also want to be fair to new customers. There are no easy answers.
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I believe that a subscription option for new users that does not include the legacy fallback license has the potential to be more affordable, more similar to the discounted track with the missing fallback license being the obvious difference.
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Some catch-up sleep did help, Aaron. It's not that complicated when the brain isn't numb from lack of sleep. 🙄Aaron Hamilton said:Rick Ausdahl said:I'm only running on a few hours sleep, so maybe that's the problem, but to me it feels like this pricing scheme would add an unwanted layer of complexity and potential confusion. But maybe I just need a few more hours of sleep. 🥴
To be sure, any decent pricing scheme will have to navigate a fair amount of confusion and complexity. By offering a legacy Fallback License, this has become necessary. With the current pricing, a customer will have to pay 350 per year for the full feature set and will have ownership of no features to show for it. If indeed the legacy Fallback License is included, after two years, they will have ownership of just as many features as their peers who are on the discounted track. No doubt this will be problematic, as they will not be happy to pay over twice as much for the same product. If the License is not included, that would be a massive price for only renting the features. I'm simply saying this area will need some attention before the final rollout in the Fall. And yes, due to the legacy Fallback License, the issue is complex and confusing.
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Rick Ausdahl said:
Some catch-up sleep did help, Aaron. It's not that complicated when the brain isn't numb from lack of sleep.
Haha, I know the feeling. [:)]
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So are the prices on the early access subscriptions pages representative of all discounts, even for connect subscribers? Pardon my ignorance, as I do not have the time to read through the many threads and even more posts to see if the question has already been answered.
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Hi Jonathan
connect subscribers need to wait a bit longer for their deal according to Mark.
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John Fidel said:
Hi Jonathan
connect subscribers need to wait a bit longer for their deal according to Mark.
Thank you!
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Check the discount page again. It appears like the bug has been fixed. The MAX discount rate is available for those who have the Pro version. I am a Connect subscriber without ever purchasing Logos 10 by itself.
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John Fidel said:
Hi Jonathan
connect subscribers need to wait a bit longer for their deal according to Mark.
I am trying to wait patiently. I really would like to try out the new features but I am not willing to pay for two subscriptions at the same time.
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Danny Parker said:
Check the discount page again. It appears like the bug has been fixed. The MAX discount rate is available for those who have the Pro version. I am a Connect subscriber without ever purchasing Logos 10 by itself.
Yes, it seems fixed. Now for those who have L10, Faithlife Connect and were early subscribers, this thread seems to indicate there is a further discount we are still waiting for.
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Mark said:
Yes, it seems fixed. Now for those who have L10, Faithlife Connect and were early subscribers, this thread seems to indicate there is a further discount we are still waiting for.
Mark Barnes - are there more discounts for those of us, like me, owned L10, subscribe to FC, and am an early subscriber to Logos Pro?
Also, will there eventually be a 2-year subscription option anytime soon? I prefer to do that.
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