What's Missing... When you'll see it overview thread

Based on the feedback here, we've decided to create a "what's missing, when you'll see it" web page that will be part of the 4.0 release announcement.

I think it's a good idea to start something like this for ourselves since we're starting to ask the same questions. (If this works it would be a great STICKY thread).

Rules of this thread:

  1. One issue per post.
  2. Three simple lines a double space and any necessary explanation
  3. Please update your posts as you see things fixed ( if you can)
  4. Please reserve comments on a given feature for the linked thread about that feature, not here.  Makes it easier to read.

Format of the posts:

  1. Missing Feature: brief description
  2. Forum thread where it is discussed (link)
  3. When we should expect to see it (e.g. upcoming beta/ Specific beta (β6) / L4 gold / 4.0aish / never)
  4. (if necessary) any overview information.

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      1. Printing
      2. Discussed at: Is L4 a new Bible software program?
      3. Print is planned, but after 4.0.

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      1. Sermon File Addin
      2. Discussed in: Sermon File Import for Logos 4?
      3. Coming, but after the first 4.0 release.

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      1. Hyperlinking to reports (from outside the program)
      2. Discussed in: Biblical People/Places/Things Linking - Logos Bible Software Forums
      3. After 4.0

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      Personal Book Builder (PBB) support


      Discussed in: Logos 4 Philosophy
      When: After 4.0:





      "We ABSOLUTELY intend to support both PBB and SermonFile in a future
      release. The problem is that PBB in particular uses Internet Explorer
      for its format and for display. And you've all made it clear how you
      felt about our reliance on IE, :-), so we need to do some serious work
      to re-do PBB." - Bob Pritchett

      MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

      Importing v3 Notes and Markup


      Thread: Old notes and markup from Logos 3
      When: Unknown





      MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

      1. Sentence Diagramming
      2. Discussed in: Sentence Diagramming
      3. The sentence diagrammer didn't make the first release, and won't be in 4.0. It should follow soon after. Sorry! -- Bob

      The sentence diagrammer didn't make the first release, and won't be in 4.0. It should follow soon after. Sorry! -- Bob

      The sentence diagrammer didn't make the first release, and won't be in 4.0. It should follow soon after. Sorry! -- Bob

       beat me by a few minutes :-)

       

      Mac Pro 13 Retina 8GB, 256 flash 

      Third Party Homepage support

      Thread: 3rd Party Home Pages
      When:

      We're not planning to continue support for third-party home pages

      MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

      1. Video resources (e.g;, The Greatest Book Video Series)
      2. -
      3. After 4.0
      1. Self tests (e.g., AM Moody Courseware)
      2. -
      3. In "a release after 4.0" (http://community.logos.com/forums/p/1972/15424.aspx#15424)
      Self tests are planned for a release after 4.0.

      1. Serial resource associations (L3 style)
      2. http://community.logos.com/forums/p/985/8062.aspx#8062

      3.

      1. Graphical Query Editor
      2. http://community.logos.com/forums/p/1154/10146.aspx#10146
      3. "The only features we're planning to drop with no alternate solution are ... Graphical Query Editor (superceded by better search and syntax searching)"
      1. Remote Library Search
      2. http://community.logos.com/forums/p/1154/10146.aspx#10146
      3. "The only features we're planning to drop with no alternate solution are Remote Library Search (because you can do it on the web now)"

      1. Remote Library Search
      2. http://community.logos.com/forums/p/1154/10146.aspx#10146
      3. "The only features we're planning to drop with no alternate solution are Remote Library Search (because you can do it on the web now)"

      I don't use this frequently, but I nevertheless wish the decision to drop it would be reconsidered.

      george
      gfsomsel

      יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

      1. Reverse Interlinear: No Tip/PopUp to explain the codes when hovering over morphology when interlinear window is displaying

      Note: Can't tell if this is intended or a bug

       

      1. Guides: Section Expand/Collapse

      2. In 3.0, You could run a report with one or more sections collapsed or expanded so that the section would not search or would search, respectively.

       

      1. Bible Speed Search

      No easier and quicker way to concordance search a bible fast!

      1. Visual Filters applied to morhologically tagged texts including reverse interlinears as well as Active Bible Reference

      1. Visual Filters applied to morhologically tagged texts including reverse interlinears as well as Active Bible Reference

      Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this is already implemented with visual filter document.

      Thanks Jacob, but maybe I am missing this : )

      What I am trying to do is color all verbs that are imperative Green.

      Here are the steps I followed.

      File | New | Visual Filter

      Choose Bible (ESV, NASB)

      Chose Morphology (I tried all the Greek ones)

      Verb with green highlighting

      Nothing is colored.  Here is a picture of 3.0

      image

       

      What I am trying to do is color all verbs that are imperative Green.

      Hi John.

      Seems to work for me. Graphic below. You might need to click the graphic to get a bigger version to see the green. Also, you may need to click the interlocking-ring thingie to make sure you select the proper visual filter(s) to display.

      image

      Rick Brannan
      Data Wrangler, Faithlife
      My books in print

      space bar = page down is still missing but mentioned under Beta 5 release notes as a resource issue yet to be dealt with. I am hoping active window will be addressed as well but see no indication it will.

      Mac Pro 13 Retina 8GB, 256 flash 

      1. Copy multiple verses with Copy Bible Verses

          We've taken a giant step backwards --

          In one move, I need to be able list several verses, either within the same book and chapter, or from multiple books and chapters:

          e.g., we need to be able to request something like this from the Lectionary


          and we need to be able to request:

      John 3:1-18; Rom 3:23, 6:23; Rev 7.1-3

          Right now, anything past the first chapter and verse is truncated forcing me to keep going back and making subsequent requests to get everything I need.

      Dale

      Hebrews 10:11–14,19–25

      Blessings,

      Dale Durnell

      Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

       

      Copy multiple verses with Copy Bible Verses

      Dale, I believe this is being considered already, if not being actively worked on. At least I hope so. I also hope that we can get some sort of ability to insert verses via macro into WordPerfect (still using your macros with L3 from time to time -- thanks, BTW), but that is probably a long way off.

       Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

      Copy multiple verses with Copy Bible Verses

      Dale, I believe this is being considered already, if not being actively worked on. At least I hope so. I also hope that we can get some sort of ability to insert verses via macro into WordPerfect (still using your macros with L3 from time to time -- thanks, BTW), but that is probably a long way off.


      Hi Rich,

          While I'm anxious to have the automation ability in WPWin with L4, I can wait awhile.

          However, comma, IMHO -- the way the CBV feature is implemented in L4 (right now), I'd have to say that it's broke. It's not just a limitation, but it's simply not working (correctly). And, we know the Logos know how to do this because it's so well implemented in L3. We just need to port that good code into L4 and repair what got broke when they started fresh. Just my two cents worth

      Blessings

      Dale

      P.S. Thanks for the kind words for the macros -- they do make life easier.

      Blessings,

      Dale Durnell

      Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

       

      1. Prayer Journal

      Prayer Lists are on the list of items that will follow after the initial 4.0 release. -Bob Pritchett  

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      1. Passage in All Versions (row by row format, rather than column format)

      1. Passage in All Versions (row by row format, rather than column format)

      Drag the comparison tool to a wider pane in the main window (or float it).

      COMPARING TEXT: ROW VS COLUMN:

      Thanks! Found the feature hidden in the menu!

      1. F2 -Switching between Languages (Hebrew, Greek, English)

      1. Report: Parallel Passages and Harmonies - Will all reports be included in 4.0?

      Note: Excellent thread on the 4.0: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/1878/14424.aspx#14424

      In 4.0: Records of the Life of Jesus (Sharman) , A Harmony of the Synoptic Gospels (Burton, Goodspeed)

      Not in 4.0 currently:

      • A Harmony of the Gospels (Robertson)
      • Analytical Outline of the Books of Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles (Crockett)
      • Eusebian Canons
      • Jude - 2 Peter (Jackson)
      • Old Testament Quotations and Allusions in the New Testament (Jones)
      • Old Testament Quotes in the New Testament (HCSB)
      • Parallel Passages in the Pastoral Epistles (Brannan)
      • Synopsis of Matthew, Mark, and Luke (Jackson)
      • Synopsis of the Four Gospels (Aland)
      • Synopsis of the Old Testament (Jackson)

       

      1. Pericope Report

      Passage Analysis : Compare Pericopes

      Pericope Report: Found this under Passage analysis! Sorry!

      1. Power Tools: Define Resource Associations (Serial and Parallel)

      Note: real important for switching between NT and OT and choosing which books to pair up

      1. Layered Timelines (for example Kings, Judges, Prophets)

      With 4.0, the timelines have been separated, which is nice, except when you want to compare Kings, Judges, and Prophets, and notable people like Daniel and Jeremiah (new feature request)

       

      1. Close all Open Windows and open Home Page (from the 3.0 toolbar)

      Note: In 4.0, You can close all tabs for a partical window, but you can not close all tabs for all windows that are open in the workspace

      1. Close all Open Windows and open Home Page (from the 3.0 toolbar)

      Note: In 4.0, You can close all tabs for a partical window, but you can not close all tabs for all windows that are open in the workspace

      "Close all" in the command bar. Can be dragged to shortcut area to create a button.

      Do you have a list of all the commands that are available from the commands bar?

      1. Changing the order of the Reverse Interlinear's rows of Information & selecting phrases from the interlinear

      Note: this is helpful at times when selecting greek/hebrew phrases from the interlinear rather from the NA27 or BHS

      1. No Next Result UP/DOWN(F3/ Shift-F3) Arrow/Button for navigating through Search Results

      A great feature to "crank efficiently" through search results without the extra back and forth mouse clicking.


      1. No Next/Previous verse Arrows/Buttons for navigating back and ahead in the Exegetical Guide Report

       

      2.

       

      3.

      A great feature to "crank efficiently" through search results without the extra back and forth mouse clicking.

      1. No Progress/Generating bar in the Exegetical Guide Report

      2.

      3.

       

       

      1. The ability to hover over a word in visual filters and get morphology information. 

       

      image

      1. Searching in CUV for more than one character
      2. Chinese Bible
      3. The search issue most likely will be resolved in a post 4.0 version.

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      Smart tags for MS Word

      Haven't heard anything definitive. Here's the last:

      http://community.logos.com/forums/t/1142.aspx?PageIndex=1

      Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

      Bridgeport, CT USA

      1.  The ability to copy and paste search results.  (this is missing in the "Bible word study" and in regular Bible searches).

      2.  http://community.logos.com/forums/t/2937.aspx

      3.  I have started a case for this, not sure when it will be implemented. - George Allakhverdyan

       

      thanks george....copying and pasting the results of a search is VERY important!

      Robert Pavich

      For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

      Missing Feature: Lectionary "Today" button and "approximation" date feature

      Forum: Features

      There is *STILL* no feature in the lectionary to bring the user back to today or the current day's view. There is still no feature to allow me to type December 1, 2009 and get taken to the closest date to that in the lectionary cycle. Both features of the lectionary are necessary. Both are functional in L3f. Both are missing from L4SR4.

      Blessings,

      Dale Durnell

      Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

       

      Missing Feature: There is no setting for "Bible Text ONLY"

      Forum: Seems like I commented on this early on in the features section

       

      Blessings,

      Dale Durnell

      Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

       

      Missing Feature: There is no setting for "Bible Text ONLY"

      Forum: Seems like I commented on this early on in the features section

       

      Let me elaborate: In L3f (and most previous versions of the LDLS) we could click the "view" button on the menu and choose Bible Text Only. This got rid of spurious editorial comments from the publisher (which I may or may not agree with). There's a BIBLE setting option in the tools section of L4, but the only option so far is to have the words of Jesus in Red or not. Just as I like to turn that off, I want to see my Bible text without someone editorializing and interfering with the flow of the text.

      Blessings,

      Dale Durnell

      Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)