Revised English Bible

Ronald Quick
Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

Does Logos have the Revised English Bible?  I cannot find it when searching their website.  I'm assuming that the RSV is a different version.

Thanks,

Ron

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  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith Member, MVP Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭

    Does Logos have the Revised English Bible?

    No. Both the New English Bible and the Revised English Bible have been requested.

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    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭
  • David Matthew
    David Matthew Member Posts: 169

    And I'd second the request - once again - for them both.

  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    Me too! [Y]

    I would also like the J.B. Phillips translation/paraphrase of the New Testament originally published in late 1940s by Geoffrey Bles with an Introduction by C.S. Lewis, no less.

    It has some wonderfully evocative translations. E.g. 2 Corinthians 4:7ff This priceless treasure we hold, so to speak, in a common earthenware jar—to show that the splendid power of it belongs to God and not to us. We are handicapped on all sides, but we are never frustrated; we are puzzled, but never in despair. We are persecuted, be we never have to stand it alone: we may be knocked down but we are never knocked out!

    That rendering just knocks me out! [:S]

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  • jwsheets
    jwsheets Member Posts: 140 ✭✭

    I would be willing to "pay" for these two versions :-) Great paraphrasic translations

  • Doug Horst
    Doug Horst Member Posts: 26 ✭✭

    I would also love to have this and the NEB in Logos.  I use the REB as my primary reading Bible.  It is a revision of the New English Bible.  I find the English of these two the most pleasant reading/sounding of any since the KJV.  The REB uses a more inclusive language and did away with some of the more questionable translations found in the NEB.  And a warning for American readers, it is a British translation and some of the word choices in translation might mystify such.

  • Friedrich
    Friedrich Member, MVP Posts: 4,772

    I would also love to have this and the NEB in Logos.  I use the REB as my primary reading Bible.  It is a revision of the New English Bible.  I find the English of these two the most pleasant reading/sounding of any since the KJV.  The REB uses a more inclusive language and did away with some of the more questionable translations found in the NEB.  And a warning for American readers, it is a British translation and some of the word choices in translation might mystify such.

    I'm a good ol' American boy, and I quite like REB.

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  • Réjean
    Réjean Member Posts: 19


    The reason the REB is not provided is bias, it is probably because the way John 1:1 is translated:

    "In the beginning the Word already was. The Word was in God's presence, and what God was, the Word was."

    I have a total of 70 Translation that identify the word as; a god, a diety, similar to God or anything other than God himself,

    Expect nothing more from this Bible software unless it agrees totally with the only doctrine acceptable.



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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reason the REB is not provided is bias, it is probably because the way John 1:1 is translated:

    ...

    Expect nothing more from this Bible software unless it agrees totally with the only doctrine acceptable.

    .

    As one who is very much out of step with the primary group of Logos users, I am surprised at your statement. While I find the forum posters frequently assume everyone is evangelical (in a loose sense), I do not find that bias in Logos products. - especially Logos 4 in which Logos has put in a great deal of effort to be cross-denominational.

    BTW I see you are new to the forums. Welcome.

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  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter Member, MVP Posts: 6,729

    The reason the REB is not provided is bias, it is probably because the way John 1:1 is translated:

    "In the beginning the Word already was. The Word was in God's presence, and what God was, the Word was."

    Well that's certainly a unique way to translate that verse, but I don't know if it has anything to do with why that version isn't available in Logos.

    The most likely reason is that Logos (a U.S. based company) would need to secure publication rights to a Bible owned by a British publisher (Cambridge University Press in this case, at least on my copy). I don't see any resources published by Cambridge University Press in my L4 library (Library > (Find >) publisher:cambridge).

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    The reason the REB is not provided is bias,

    That's a brave claim to make without providing evidence. A quick glance at the products page of Logos' website will demonstrate they don't censor resources based on theological criteria. The much more likely answer is lack of demand or copyright issues. I suspect in this case, it's both.

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  • Réjean
    Réjean Member Posts: 19

    Thank you MJ, Richard and Mark for your replies.

    I have the Scolar's Library 3, maybe that's why.

    Would I be more happy if I payd to upgrade to the version 4 (for unbias commentaries)?

    Should I wait for version 5?

    Thanks again,

     

  • Bobby Terhune
    Bobby Terhune Member Posts: 690 ✭✭

    Ray,

    Everyone who writes commentaries has a bias in their work. What kind of commentary are you thinking about? Sometimes the more liberal commentaries will venture into the more speculative avenues of thought. The problem is that they are the most costly to purchase.

  • Réjean
    Réjean Member Posts: 19

    I am open minded and want to search, cross reference, and compare all the possibilities of doctrines and interpretations existing, and that includes bibles that are not only translated by trinitarians (bias), or commantaries that are not only trinitarians viewpoint (bias). I dont want to enter into theological discussions (that's my own quest right now), this is not the forum for it I know, do you get the meaning?

    I know I dont always explain myself properly but I am French and doing my best [:S]

    Merci [;)]

     

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am open minded and want to search, cross reference, and compare all the possibilities of doctrines and interpretations existing, and that includes bibles that are not only translated by trinitarians (bias), or commantaries that are not only trinitarians viewpoint (bias). I dont want to enter into theological discussions (that's my own quest right now), this is not the forum for it I know, do you get the meaning?

    I know I dont always explain myself properly but I am French and doing my best

    You have explained yourself quite well in English. What you will find with Logos resources is that they try to balance what sells best (American evangelical) and what meets the need of the broader market including academics. Their web site is not always the easy to navigate to the resources you want but the resources are there. And Logos is redesigning their website. You are correct, the forum is not the place for theology - but we can sometimes help with resources as well as using Logos 4 effectively.

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  • Mike Aubrey
    Mike Aubrey Member, Logos Employee Posts: 223

    I have the Scolar's Library 3, maybe that's why.

    Would I be more happy if I payd to upgrade to the version 4 (for unbias commentaries)?

    Should I wait for version 5?

    The version isn't going to get you bias/unbiased commentaries since the version is only the engine, of which the books are only accessed through.

    The bigger problem is that, as far as I know, there are no academic non-trinitarian commentaries. If you know of some, I would suggest going to the Suggestions sub-forum and request them.

     

  • Bill Nienhuis
    Bill Nienhuis Member, Logos Employee Posts: 36

    And back to the REB and NEB for a moment...we are working to bring these to Logos Bible Software. Hopefully soon.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The bigger problem is that, as far as I know, there are no academic non-trinitarian commentaries.

    Fascinating - I would have assumed there were early Unitarian commentaries ... they did produce a fairly comprehensive catechism. Now I'm curious and will have to check.

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  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    And back to the REB and NEB for a moment...we are working to bring these to Logos Bible Software. Hopefully soon.

    Bill

    That is marvellous news. [:D]

    Every blessing

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  • Mike Aubrey
    Mike Aubrey Member, Logos Employee Posts: 223

    Fascinating - I would have assumed there were early Unitarian commentaries ... they did produce a fairly comprehensive catechism. Now I'm curious and will have to check.

    That might be possible. Had Joseph Thayer written commentaries he would have been representative.

  • Réjean
    Réjean Member Posts: 19

    Thank you all for the information provided, it looks promissing (as a bible software), and I am pleased to find out this group is open minded!

    I'll be waiting to see what MJ finds out!

  • Ron Newberry
    Ron Newberry Member Posts: 51

    Yeah!!!  Keep us informed.  Eagerly awaiting.

  • Anthony H
    Anthony H Member Posts: 1,155 ✭✭

    And back to the REB and NEB for a moment...we are working to bring these to Logos Bible Software. Hopefully soon.


     

    Ha-zah! [Y]

    Praise the Lord!!

  • Scot Jefferies
    Scot Jefferies Member Posts: 63

    I would also like the J.B. Phillips translation/paraphrase of the New Testament originally published in late 1940s by Geoffrey Bles with an Introduction by C.S. Lewis, no less.

    [Y]  I agree.

    PS  Anyone know how come the Edit Tags link shows up in my posts?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PS  Anyone know how come the Edit Tags link shows up in my posts?

    If I understand you correctly, you are referring to the option to add search tags to your post. They in turn create the tag cloud on the right hand side.

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  • Scot Jefferies
    Scot Jefferies Member Posts: 63

    Thanks MJ.  I'm referring to the bottom of each of my posts.  It shows a small blue hyperlink [Edit Tags] in blue.  I don't see that on your posts.  Is that because only I can edit links on my posts?  Do you see that under your posts.  I only put tags in if I think they'd help someonelse.  Not sure how I'd search on other's tags either.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you see that under your posts.

    Yes, and only on my notes. It's a quicker way to edit the tags on your posts than going more --> edit to bring up the main text.

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  • Scot Jefferies
    Scot Jefferies Member Posts: 63

    Thanks MJ.  You cleared up one of my great mysteries of the forum questions.  Thank you too for your service to all of us as an MVP!  All your work blesses me and so many others.