iPhone app and sync
Slightly off topic, but... can we expect that the new iPhone app will sync notes and such with the server so they will be available on the desktop?
Excited about the app and look forward to seeing how it will interact with Logos 4.
And my prediction (total guess): when the iPhone app is released, Logos will also make some sort of announcement about Logos 4, showing how some of the features (sync) will work with the upcoming version.
While on Mac products... any expectation of when the Mac beta of Logos 4 will be released? For now at least I have removed my virtual machine from my home computer so for now my work from home is limited to using the existing Logos for Mac.
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do you have a link? havent heard anything, but was away @ weekend
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Currently, all we have is a clear indication of a mobile site. I would like to know, as would a number in the general forums, whether this truly is an iPhone app, a website, or something else.
I need to buy a new phone this month. I do not want to buy an iPhone, but a Logos iPhone app could sway me.
Something more than a teaser would be helpful.
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Damian,
From the pictures and text it is pretty clear that this is an actual iPhone app rather than just a mobile website. I was one of those who initially thought it was just a mobile website, judging by the web address where images are being posted. But all of the pictures are pictures of an actual iPhone app, and the top-right graphic pretty well settles the question: this is an iPhone/iPod Touch application.
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Damian,
I'd hate to see you pulled to the dark side just for a Logos app. Is it really worth an iphone? [+o(]
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Chris, I haven't revisited the site since the first teaser went up - it's now very clearly an iPhone app. More's the shame.
Thomas, I'm not yet convinced. I really want an Android phone....
If the iPhone app is simply a bible reader, then that can be replicated in a number of different ways (I already own a number of olivetree books from my iPaq days). If it will give us access to some of our actual resources, I may become convinced. But, at the same time, I do not want cloud access. The data plans on mobile phones in Australia are punitive - it ain't worth it.
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tcback,
The iPhone is a good gizmo, say what you will about Apple. It has served me quite well. People who oppose the iPhone seem to oppose more the hype than the phone itself. There are some downsides with it, such as the AT&T lock in, but the device itself is quite solid and very useful.
Damian,
The blurred-out sections are quite revealing. Bible Word Study is one of them, Passage Guide is another, so the study tools are there in some form or another. And I suspect resources will be available as well - of what use would word study or passage guide be without other resources? My guess is users will have some ability to pick the resources they want on the phone. Logos is rolling out "in the cloud" resource downloads, as we see with Logos 4, so methinks users can wirelessly manage their resources on the iPhone app. But we shall see.
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Don't forget about the iPod Touch as an option for those who can't or don't want to switch to the iPhone. A refurbished 8GB unit will run you $150 with no ongoing monthly expense. That's the route I'll probably end up going.
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People who oppose the iPhone seem to oppose more the hype than the phone itself.
That's me, I'm disgusted by the hype and the general aura of apple snobbery. Steve Jobs nauseates me. I just can't overcome that.
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Phi,
I'm in Australia. US pricings aren't much use to me....
And, I actually need a new phone and my contract is about to expire. So, now's the time.What would sell me on an iPhone is if I can download a number of my resources, over my home wifi connection (as iPod touch works) so that I can access them elsewhere. Will I be able to download a few of my commentaries, related to the upcoming Sunday readings... Or, will everything only be accessible through the cloud? If the latter, then I'll happily skip the iPhone (or iPod touch for that matter).I know that you don't want to give away too much... but, I don't want to make a purchase now and repent at long leisure.0 -
I'm disgusted by the hype and the general aura of apple snobbery.
I can't say that my opinion is too different than yours. I had to swallow a lot of humble pie before buying my first iPod (which I really wanted for the nike+ kit). I haven't regretted that.
Nevertheless, an Android phone would suit my phone needs better than an iPhone.... It will take more functionality on Logos' part to sway me in the direction of an iPhone.
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People who oppose the iPhone seem to oppose more the hype than the phone itself.
That's me, I'm disgusted by the hype and the general aura of apple snobbery. Steve Jobs nauseates me. I just can't overcome that.
I hate just about everything Apple, especially the "this is so cool!" and "this is so shiny" business, but I really do like my iPhone. It does so many things. So you don't need to be an Apple fanboy to buy an iPhone. [:D]
Fred Greco
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Don't forget about the iPod Touch as an option for those who can't or don't want to switch to the iPhone. A refurbished 8GB unit will run you $150 with no ongoing monthly expense. That's the route I'll probably end up going.
except that you need to find a wifi hot spot if the app uses an internet connection. My wife has an Ipod Touch and I'm looking forward to being able to lay down in bed with it and read myself to sleep :-)
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I would not expect the app to need a persistent wireless connection. When I say "the cloud" in this case I just mean the internet. I suspect the app will download the books you want it to download and those books will be available whether or not you are online. Otherwise why not just do a mobile site? My initial misgivings about a mobile site were precisely for this reason - I want something that will let me access my resources even when offline, and it looks like the app will provide that.
Hope your right! Now to talk my wife into trading my Ipod Nano for her Ipod Touch....
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That's me, I'm disgusted by the hype and the general aura of apple snobbery. Steve Jobs nauseates me. I just can't overcome that.
I dig my Mac, but honestly who cares what OS someone uses. It is a matter of function and purpose. If Windows is your style, go for it. But no need to turn this into a battle that does not exist on this forum brother.Sorry to say, so far, the only snobby remarks have come from you my PC friend.
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Sounds like I am out. I just upgraded to a Samsung Omnia mobile device. I love the phone, and AT&T does not service my area. Verizon is the only option for me. So I guess I will not be able to take advantage of a mobile LOGOS app.
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Kenneth,
Don't forget, as Phil mentioned, that the IPOD touch is also an option. No need for a contract or AT&T service.
As for what books/resources will be available, there is at least one screen shot on m.logos.com (The one that has the thumbnail that says "Mark") where, if you read the blurred words, you'll see they say "The Pulpit Commentary," "The Bible Knowledge Commentary," and (this one is hard to read) "A Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Old and New Testaments". This looks to me like we'll have access to commentaries. And my hope is that if we have access to commentaries, then we'll have access to other parts of our library too.
I'm obviously extrapolating here, but having access to a wide range of our library is looking likely!
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Sorry to say, so far, the only snobby remarks have come from you my PC friend.
Ouch. Mea culpa. Sorry.
I meant the aura arriving from the Apple offices, not the users. Pardon me whilst I labor at removing this log from mine eye.
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I meant the aura arriving from the Apple offices, not the users. Pardon me whilst I labor at removing this log from mine eye.
What thou sayst, I thoughteth. Oh what wretched PC fans we are...Who shall deliver us from this OS of death?
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.Who shall deliver us from this OS of death?
Linus Torvalds has already provided deliverance from Windows. But few are they who enter into Linux. Nay many of us who claim to have followed after still reside in windows land or else struggle to break free of Redmond's grasp through the aid of WINE.
If only I could get Logos 4 to play nicely through WINE, I could quite whining and receive grace also from my MAC brethren who also reside upon the kernel technologies of unix.
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I've been a Linux user of various sorts for years. In my last job one of the duties was installing and maintaining a Gentoo system. I love Linux but I know it well enough to know it is just not where it needs to be for my purposes.
This is one reason I love the Mac OS. Being built on BSD means I can open up a terminal window and work from the shell to my heart's delight. So I get the best of both worlds - strong unix tools and a solid overall OS, GUI, and application support. I am not a Microsoft hater by any means but I do love my Mac and it would be hard for me to go back. Linux isn't even on the radar anymore.
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Chris,
Art thou trying to convert me? [:P]
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I hate just about everything Apple, especially the "this is so cool!" and "this is so shiny" business, but I really do like my iPhone. It does so many things. So you don't need to be an Apple fanboy to buy an iPhone.
That's exactly my answer. Thanks Fred. Yes, I did switch about a year ago, after many years (since the first iPaq days) of using the PDA/MDA T-Mobile phones, to iPhone. I thought I will just play with iPhone for a few days and give it to my son [:)]. Well, he had to get another phone. I stayed with iPhone and one of the best thing I really like is the clear and big enough screen, I can actually read on. For Logos that is a big issue for me. I want to really read my books on it, not only to have a good feeling I have them with me [:)]. I am not Apple fun, iPhone though is an exception.
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Sorry to say, so far, the only snobby remarks have come from you my PC friend.
Ouch. Mea culpa. Sorry.
I meant the aura arriving from the Apple offices, not the users. Pardon me whilst I labor at removing this log from mine eye.
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Who shall deliver us from this OS of death?
What if I like my OS of death?
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who knew King James was such a computer geek?
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Don't forget about the iPod Touch as an option for those who can't or don't want to switch to the iPhone. A refurbished 8GB unit will run you $150 with no ongoing monthly expense. That's the route I'll probably end up going.
Yeah, Phil. I am going to go with the iPod touch. Will the lack of always-on internet functionality hurt it? (I mean is there too much server-side work being done to make it useful while disconnected?)
Also, I don't know much about iPhones and iPod touches: Will older generation iPod touches work?
Jacob Hantla
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