iPhone app and sync
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As a former iPhone hater, I love my iPhone. It started when I bought my ipod and then it died. I bought an ipod touch to replace it and it was a transforming experience. So I got the new 3gs iphone when it came out and have not looked back. It is like night and day. GREAT! There are already GREAT iphone apps, which you can read about in my review at Christian Computing Magazine. But a Logos iPhone app could be potentially life changing if ...
1. It syncs up with the desktop app
2. It allows you to read your books from the desktop app on your iPhone
3. It does not require you to buy the books over again for the new device.
If any of the above is not included, then why bother. Others have done it and are way ahead and this is not needed. It will divert resources away from making logos better.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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As a former iPhone hater, I love my iPhone.
Traitor! [:p]
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Hmm, Kevin... those three things would make a cool iPhone app, wouldn't they? :-)
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Hmm, Kevin... those three things would make a cool iPhone app, wouldn't they? :-)
I like this post :-)
Jacob Hantla
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Hmm, Kevin... those three things would make a cool iPhone app, wouldn't they? :-)
Those three things would make a cool Windows Mobile App too!
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Those three things would make a cool Windows Mobile App too!
Agree!
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They'd make a great Blackberry App too.
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And a great Palm Pre app!
(I don't actually have a Palm Pre, I just wanted to ride on the bandwagon)
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Hmm, Kevin... those three things would make a cool iPhone app, wouldn't they? :-)
Those three things would make a cool Windows Mobile App too!
I have a blackberry and have run Windows Mobile in the past. I agree. We need those apps, and my guess is that Logos will end up going there. But if there was ever a break-in market to establish themselves on portable devices, it is the iPhone.
I'm just extremely happy that they are moving in this direction. I think it is future proofing our library by establishing the future success of Logos by making the library portable...the obvious future of this market.Logos is now directly able to compete with Kindle who also lets their books be read on the iPhone. Logos is competing, and will destroy the Kindle in this market because of an inherently superior product, allowing not only reading of books, but whole-library integration and syncing with the desktop. Once word of this gets out to those who are buying books for Kindle, I think that Logos will find themselves with another whole previously untapped market.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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I would love some word on whether Logos is considering developing for other platforms, WinMo, Symbian, Android. The first two definitely have larger market share than iPhone. I'm positive that Android will outstrip iPhone in but a couple of years.
Android would seem the perfect fit for a portable Logos. The latest Archos internet tablet would be ideal. The rumour that Barnes and Nobles' soon to be released eReader will be Android based offers a platform to compete directly with the proprietary Kindle. A number of Linux distributions are working on making Android apps available. This would make a portable Logos available on numerous netbooks.
I really want to buy an Android phone, not an iPhone. But, as I've said, the availability (in the medium term) of Logos will sway me.
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Damian,
Market share of a phone does not mean it would be viable for Logos. But to perhaps challenge some theories on market share, note http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone#Operating_systems while Windows Mobile and others would have more existing devices, the iPhone is certainly growing fast and is catching more of the new sales than Windows Mobile. Also, quite a few Logos users, on the forums anyway, have revealed themselves to be iPhone users. The others who have revealed SmartPhone preferences own a smattering of different platforms. I would not anticipate Logos developing software for every platform, though they could surprise me. Frankly, an iPhone app surprises me. I'm curious how they cleared it with publishers.
Also consider the devices themselves. One advantage of developing for the iPhone is a company knows (more or less) what hardware their software will run on. In some ways a plus for Microsoft OS's in general is that it runs on a variety of hardware. This is also a minus. I imagine a challenge exists with selling (?) something like Logos for Windows Mobile, not knowing how many users will call in and complain that it doesn't look/work right on their device. Most of these challenges are removed for the iPhone.
As for Android, it would surprise me if that ever really takes off, particularly as it exists now. Those who go after devices running Android are probably doing so for reasons that do not motivate most users.
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Market share of a phone does not mean it would be viable for Logos.
Chris,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm aware of the difference between market share and the purchase of apps between iPhone and other handsets. This is no doubt due in great part to the well integrated app store... the others are playing hard at catch up.
I don't share your skepticism re Android. In part, I think it is due to the poor way in which Android was introduced in the States. This should change over the next few months as each of the major carriers introduces android phones and as the next gen of phones are produced. There's a huge amount happening with the development of Android based phones with so many of the major handset manufacturers behind the technology.
My interest is also in the way in which this OS will function on a large number of different devices (how about Logos books on a dedicated ebook reader?). Many of which will be more conducive to the book reading process than an iPhone screen.
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We're responding to stats. We surveyed our users and, of respondents, more than 46% had an iPhone / iPod Touch. Android had 1.4%. (That was the lowest score -- the Palm Pre beat Android! BlackBerry and Windows Mobile were the only platforms beside iPhone/iPod Touch with any significant share.)
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more than 46% had an iPhone / iPod Touch.
Wow! That says something about either Logos users in general or those who took the survey.
Android had 1.4%
This doesn't surprise me given when the survey was held. It'll be interesting to see what next year's survey will produce.
I have no doubt that you're making the right business decision for now. I'd go with an iPhone app before all else as well, especially given how many iPhone users install other programs - my co-Pastor immediately installed the iBreviary program after I told him about it.
My question is whether you are considering developing on other platforms in the medium term. If the answer is simply No. Then, that's OK.
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Logos is now directly able to compete with Kindle who also lets their books be read on the iPhone. Logos is competing, and will destroy the Kindle in this market because of an inherently superior product, allowing not only reading of books, but whole-library integration and syncing with the desktop. Once word of this gets out to those who are buying books for Kindle, I think that Logos will find themselves with another whole previously untapped market.
Reading on an iPhone and on a Kindle are two vastly different experiences. I only have the Kindle app so that I can read my Kindle books in a pinch. Reading on the Kindle is so much better and more pleasing. The only way Logos will be able to compete head to head with Kindle is to offer a similar device or if Apple ever gets off the dime and offers their Uber Iphone (tablet) and it is similar. If the new Microsoft dual screen tablet ever actually makes it into production, it might offer Logos a platform to compete with Kindle. Until then I don't see Logos being able to compete in the book reader market unless they offer an export to epub which would make me sing their praises to all I know.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Kevin,
This would not be competition to Kindle, it would be an extra product for iPhone/iPod Touch users. Nonetheless, I really enjoy reading using the Kindle app, so to each his own. I prefer the backlit screen so I can read in bed without disturbing my wife.
As for the tablet, rumors are flying furiously. Looks like it will be a reality. Maybe. Unless it's not.
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For What It is Worth.... I went for my 3 hour bike ride this morning wearing my Logos Bible Software Jersey riding my Trek Madone 5.5 and listening to my music on my Palm Pre.... I hope that m.logos.com will see it's way to my Pre
Jim
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Hmm, Kevin... those three things would make a cool iPhone app, wouldn't they? :-)
The kind of app there might be a super secret beta program for? [:D]
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The kind of app there might be a super secret beta program for?
Can't say I hadn't had that thought, too. I do have an Ipod touch, you know :-)
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As someone who has beta tested two different Bible products on iPhone, I can say it is fun and I am really good at it .. hint, hint!!
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association0
