PBB - docx format for making a Bible

George
George Member Posts: 479 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Hi,

Is there a specific format for building a Bible? Does anyone have a working sample?  I am trying to make a Romanian Bible but I don't know where to start.  I have the Bible in doc format and I saved it to a docx format but I don't think that is enough. I tried adding it into Logos as Type: Bible but it does not show up as a Bible option when I am trying to select it under preferred Bible and it also does not link with the commentaries or other Bibles.  Do I need to use the English book names and chapter headings to make it work (Genesis vs Geneza , Chapter 1 vs Capitolul 1)?

Thank you,

George

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  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭

    Try this thread on PB Bibles 

    http://community.logos.com/forums/t/34051.aspx

    I tried the Polish Biblia Gdańska        and have used that file as a template to build another Bible
     

  • Mikko Paavola
    Mikko Paavola Member Posts: 241

    Hi!

    This is how I'm making Finnish Bibles:

    1. At first you should have the bible text in plain text one verse / line with book name, chapter and verse numbers in the beginning of every line.

    2. Open the txt file in Excel and use Excels text import tool (opens automatically when opening txt-file in Excel) to put book, chapter, verse and Bible text to separate columns (you may need to do this in 3 stages if the chapter and verse numbers are separated with spaces and not tabulators).

    3. Add new columns to the table for codes (C, E-H and J). Write the codes to the columns. Here's an example (column B is the original chapter number, D the verse number):


    A B C D E F G H I J
    [[@Bible:Ge  1 : 1 ]] =D .  {{field-on:bible}} Alussa loi Jumala taivaan ja maan. {{field-off:bible}}

    - You must have a space after the book abbreviation (column A: "[[@Bible:Ge ") and after the visible verse number (column G: ". ")
    - You can find the book abbreviations here: http://wiki.logos.com/COM_API_Bible_Book_Abbreviations

    4. Save the file as Excel document (you may need to modify it later)

    5. Copy the table columns A-J in Excel and paste them to Word as plain text (not as a table)

    6. Remove the tabulators with find and replace command.

    7. Save the file as docx

    8. Add the book and chapter names: Book names as Heading 1 and chapter names as Heading 2 (or OT/NT as H1, book name as H2 and chapter name as H3) and add the codes for books and chapters in the beginning of the headers. Here's an example how it should look in Word:



    [[@Bible:Ge]]GENESIS, Ensimäinen Moseksen kirja

    [[@Bible:Ge 1]]1. Luku.

    [[@Bible:Ge 1:1]]1. {{field-on:bible}}Alussa loi Jumala
    taivaan ja maan.{{field-off:bible}}

    [[@Bible:Ge 1:2]]2. {{field-on:bible}}Ja maa oli autio ja
    tyhjä, ja pimeys oli syvyyden päällä, ja Jumalan Henki liikkui vetten
    päällä.{{field-off:bible}}

     

    9. If you want to have introductions, ingresses or subheaders (as Heading 3) to your Bible, add the texts to the correct places without any coding.

    And there it is. For me, the easiest steps were 1-7 (about 30-60min). Steps 8-9 will take more time.

     

    One thing to note: You may need to change the @Bible -code if the bible have a different verse numbering system (for example where the Isaiah chapter 53 starts, is there 3 or 4 chapters in Malachi, etc.). There's own codes for different numberings. You can read more about it here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/35157/266882.aspx#266882

     

     

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    Hi!

    This is how I'm making Finnish Bibles:

    1. At first you should have the bible text in plain text one verse / line with book name, chapter and verse numbers in the beginning of every line.

    2. Open the txt file in Excel and use Excels text import tool (opens automatically when opening txt-file in Excel) to put book, chapter, verse and Bible text to separate columns (you may need to do this in 3 stages if the chapter and verse numbers are separated with spaces and not tabulators).

    3. Add new columns to the table for codes (C, E-H and J). Write the codes to the columns. Here's an example (column B is the original chapter number, D the verse number):


    A B C D E F G H I J
    [[@Bible:Ge  1 : 1 ]] =D .  {{field-on:bible}} Alussa loi Jumala taivaan ja maan. {{field-off:bible}}

    - You must have a space after the book abbreviation (column A: "[[@Bible:Ge ") and after the visible verse number (column G: ". ")
    - You can find the book abbreviations here: http://wiki.logos.com/COM_API_Bible_Book_Abbreviations

    4. Save the file as Excel document (you may need to modify it later)

    5. Copy the table columns A-J in Excel and paste them to Word as plain text (not as a table)

    6. Remove the tabulators with find and replace command.

    7. Save the file as docx

    8. Add the book and chapter names: Book names as Heading 1 and chapter names as Heading 2 (or OT/NT as H1, book name as H2 and chapter name as H3) and add the codes for books and chapters in the beginning of the headers. Here's an example how it should look in Word:



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    [[@Bible:Ge]]GENESIS, Ensimäinen Moseksen kirja

    [[@Bible:Ge 1]]1. Luku.

    [[@Bible:Ge 1:1]]1. {{field-on:bible}}Alussa loi Jumala
    taivaan ja maan.{{field-off:bible}}

    [[@Bible:Ge 1:2]]2. {{field-on:bible}}Ja maa oli autio ja
    tyhjä, ja pimeys oli syvyyden päällä, ja Jumalan Henki liikkui vetten
    päällä.{{field-off:bible}}

     

    9. If you want to have introductions, ingresses or subheaders (as Heading 3) to your Bible, add the texts to the correct places without any coding.

    And there it is. For me, the easiest steps were 1-7 (about 30-60min). Steps 8-9 will take more time.

     

    One thing to note: You may need to change the @Bible -code if the bible have a different verse numbering system (for example where the Isaiah chapter 53 starts, is there 3 or 4 chapters in Malachi, etc.). There's own codes for different numberings. You can read more about it here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/35157/266882.aspx#266882

     

     

    Thanks very much for your method for make pbb bibe

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    2 Peter 3:18  But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

  • George
    George Member Posts: 479 ✭✭
  • George
    George Member Posts: 479 ✭✭

    Thanks to you, the other posters and Mark Barnes' docx samples here http://community.logos.com/forums/t/34051.aspx I managed to finish the Romanian Bible in less than two hours.  

    Thank you!

    George

  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    Ben...

    being a UK user, dont know if text got corrupted.. writing seems funny to me :P

    anyhow, here is your file, best I can do, you will be abble to edit it I presume

    What Version is it?

    4503.benp.docx

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  • Hans van den Herik
    Hans van den Herik Member Posts: 345 ✭✭

    Mikko,

    You said:

    2. Open the txt file in Excel and use Excels text import tool (opens automatically when opening txt-file in Excel) to put book, chapter, verse and Bible text to separate columns (you may need to do this in 3 stages if the chapter and verse numbers are separated with spaces and not tabulators).

    But how can I separate the following text in Excel:

    Eze 40:1 In het vijfentwintigste jaar van onze ballingschap, aan het begin van het jaar, op de tiende van de maand, in het veertiende jaar nadat de stad was  verslagen, op diezelfde dag was de hand van de HEERE op mij en bracht Hij mij erheen.  (Dutch).

    I first separated the text on ":" That worked.

    I then tried separating on spaces but then every word is in a different column!

    How can I separate Eze - 40 - 1 - In het vijfentwintigste....?

    Hans

  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    Hans,

    If you have the bible as a text file with 1 verse per line, like


    Eze 39:41 Ihet wintigste

    Eze 40:1 In wintigste

    email it to me and I be happy to run it through my compiler which should tag it for you.

    bible_convert_pbb AT domisoft DOT co DOT uk

     

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    DominicM said:

    Ben...

    being a UK user, dont know if text got corrupted.. writing seems funny to me :P

    anyhow, here is your file, best I can do, you will be abble to edit it I presume

    What Version is it?

    4503.benp.docx

    Thanks very much! work fine.

    this is Chinese version.

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    4747.chinese version2.txtDominicM:

    can you help me for convert another two chinese bible!

    Thanks very much

     

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  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    I can but what versions/translations are they? and are they in the Public Domain..?

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  • Hans van den Herik
    Hans van den Herik Member Posts: 345 ✭✭

    Dominic, Here it is.

    It's only a segment of Ezekiel (only chap. 40-48) . But I'm working on it and would have this translation too.

    A further question: does Logos recognize those PBB's as bibles so that I can use "Copy Bible Verses"?

    Kind regards

    Hans

    5857.TextEz 40-48.txt

  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    DominicM said:

    I can but what versions/translations are they? and are they in the Public Domain..?

    yes in the Public Domain.

    1919years

    http://www.sbofmhk.org/menu.php

    http://www.o-bible.com/gb/dlb.html

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  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    Hans here is yours.. hope it helps 2577.hans.ezekiel.docx

    Ben I need to think aboutl yours, as I dont understand chineses I will hope the versing lines up but if it doesnt please dont get too mad :P

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  • Hans van den Herik
    Hans van den Herik Member Posts: 345 ✭✭
  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    3857.Chinese1.docxBen, here is #1, number #2 is not structured according to the regular protestant canon, and doesnt have enough extras books (4 extras) for me to guess its apocraphal. you may wish to verify the source. 

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    Thanks, wonderful work.

    #2 is a catholic  Bible, I will edit it later.

    Thanks again!

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    I have edited the file.

    maybe easy format, I don't know.[:D]

    Thanks

    8156.#2.docx

    2 Peter 3:18  But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    Ben, this looks better, thanks. but you will need to test. and adjust if needed..

    7266.Chinese_Cathollic.docx

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    DominicM said:

    Ben, this looks better, thanks. but you will need to test. and adjust if needed..

    7266.Chinese_Cathollic.docx

    Perfect, Thanks!

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    2 Peter 3:18  But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    2 Peter 3:18  But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    The ex PBB from stilltruth(Thomas), I havent got the correct font/language type on my system, cant do it - text gets corrupted on import, you will have to hope the original poster updates it

    Again the second one - Which version is it and what is its copyright status.. I thought there only was one modern version which is under copyright..

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    updated new version, you can try2388.NEW VERSION.txt

    about chinese modern version I cant find its web and copyright info!

    I will delete it.

    Thanks.

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  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    hopefully this is better, best I can do.. still seems corrupt

    2047.v4.docx

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    so sorry! doesn't work, keep corrupt.

    I have edited the file.2046.New files.docx

    God blessings

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  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    Sadly then you will have to copy and paste it in yourself verse by verse, it must be the known unicode issue with my development software, but cant afford to upgrade it right now solely to fix this unicode issue.

    I enclose a blank Bible which you might be able to copy and paste your text into, but sorry its going to take you a while... sorry I cant help you further in this case... 

    3678.empty_bible.docx

    Regards
    Dominic

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  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭

    DominicM said:

    Sadly then you will have to copy and paste it in yourself verse by verse, 

    I have been copy and paste half a chapter at a time [this may or my not work for your Unicode file]
    Procedure - using column copy
    File two – next chapter to insert
    Set page width to 22 inches [max that my copy of Word will take]
    Do what ever you need to do to get the chapter into the format of one line per verse with verse number at start of line
    1 verse one text
    2 verse two text
    3 verse three text
    4 verse four text and this verse is 85 characters long -> (to char 85)
    5 verse five with error – it runs on to <end of line char here> 
    Two lines – fix it by making it all on one line
    6 verse six text

    File one – the Bible that you are editing
    Chapter 23  [this is the chapter header format the rest in in verse format]
    [[@bible:Matthew 23:1]]1{{field-on:Bible}} NEXT HERE{{field-off:Bible}}
    [[@bible:Matthew 23:2]]2{{field-on:Bible}} {{field-off:Bible}}
    [[@bible:Matthew 23:3]]3{{field-on:Bible}} {{field-off:Bible}}
    -- The NEXT HERE is my search item to find where I quit last time (as in next chapter goes here)

    I remove ‘next here ‘
    I see that all of the ‘}} {{’ line up  (note jump between 9 and 10 – ‘10’ has more characters)

    In file two I use column copy [set insert point to the start of the next verse (say at the ‘1’ in verse 1)
    Push and hold the ‘ALT’ key
    Drag down to verse 9
    Drag across to just past the end of the longest verse (above verse 4 is stated to be 85 char long)
    Release ‘ALT’ key
    Ctrl-c  to copy the text

    In file one with the insert point on where I want the first character of the next verse inserted ctrl-v to paste
    All of the verses have been pasted in

    repeat for the rest of the chapter   repeat for all the rest of the chapters

    Might want to do this to verses 1-9 then 10 to the end of the chapter (in two or more steps)
    Then I have to remove the verse numbers that are in the Bible text section (allows check that the verse is on the correct line)
    But it beats doing one verse at a time [this may or my not work for your Unicode file]


  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 278

    DominicM said:

    Sadly then you will have to copy and paste it in yourself verse by verse, it must be the known unicode issue with my development software, but cant afford to upgrade it right now solely to fix this unicode issue.

    I enclose a blank Bible which you might be able to copy and paste your text into, but sorry its going to take you a while... sorry I cant help you further in this case... 

    3678.empty_bible.docx

    Regards
    Dominic

    More thanks ! I have finished it. 

    2 Peter 3:18  But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.