Reading Plan

The custom reading plans created in L4 already sync with the iPhone app.  Are yours not doing so?

I am unable to delete the reading plan on my IPOD and in establishing a new plan on my desktop, it is not syncing.  Any ideas on how to get my new plan to sync to my IPOD?

the sync problem for the reading plan has been frustrating to deal with, but it does nobody any good to play armchair product manager.  when you design a product and it grows in popularity to the point where you have to deal with data at large scale you often face problems that you never dreamed of and are very difficult to solve.  It takes a lot of time, energy and money to design a service at scale.  It takes making mistakes and it takes a design that is capable of working at large scale.

From this thread it is clear that the old sync is not capable of working at the scale that is currently needed: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/40168.aspx

As such saying they need to fix the current sync just puts a bad taste in peoples mouth and creates needless hostility in the community and needless pressure on the engineering team who are working hard to get the new sync out the door.  They need grace from us, not animosity.

It will be ready when its ready and they shouldn't ship it before it is ready or else that will cause a whole host of new problems and more complaining in the forums.

I do agree that the main purpose of my use of the app is the daily reading and I eagerly await the rollout of the next sync. Until then I hope that the developers are doing their best, but are still able to spend time with their families during the Christmas season.

I have to agree. I don't even use my app anymore unless I happen to be out and in need of a verse. I do my bible reading out of my good ole leather bible. At this point I wouldn't recommend it. While I understand grace business is business. Logos sold me on their software. I'm out a couple hundred dollars and can't even stay up with their main sell to me. With  my busy life having my reading plan with me wherever I go was vital and another reason I invested in the iPhone from my blackberry. Now instead of reading gods word at my dr appts I find myself playing angry birds. Sad but true. 

Finally, I've invested thousands and have used this program for years and on iOS I've used it longer than most since I beta tested the first app. I've been with Logos a long time and speak as a loyal customer who is finding it harder and harder to be loyal with issues like this.

Kevin, I feel the same way. I to have invested thousands in Logos and am very disappointed with it. When I first started using reading plans on my iPhone they synced fine. The ability to read my Bible on the iPad was one of the factors that convinced me that plucking down the dollars for it was worth while. I can't do my daily reading on my iPad now and don't want to sit behind a computer to do my daily reading so I know when old school and use an actual bible (which isn't a bad thing). I travel a lot so having my bible and resources with me on the iPad led me to purchase more resources and some Vyrso books. 

I purchased Logos 4  when it first came out because they were coming out with a Mac version. After having the first Logos Mac 1 which I was very disappointed with I waited almost a year for the logos 4 Alpha to be released. One of the factors in switching from Wordsearch to Logos was the number of resources and the fact they were coming out with a Mac version not just a port of their windows version. At this point if I could get back 75% of my investment in Logos I would dump it in a heart beat. I know everyone will say feature parity is coming with 4.5 but I've been hear that for several months now. I'm always hearing that something is coming soon and it's always substandard. i've invested enough in Logos that I could have purchased another Mac (and not a low end). it's ridiculous that I've invested so much and have a substandard product. When I was looking at Logos I also researched Accordance and went with Logos because of their resources. All the resources are great but if the software is lacking all those resources don't matter. I know I can run Fusion and run L4Win but I don't want windows and I'm not going to have a software company that supposedly makes a mac version dictate to me that I rum a VM with Windows so I can get full functionality of their software.

The iOS app is so bad that even Bibles that I've downloaded don't always work when I go to church because I don't have good reception in the building. If I download the resources I shouldn't have trouble accessing them yet if I don't open the App and make sure I can read the Bible before I enter the building there a many times it won't even load the downloaded resources. I've started using Glo Bible for Mac and their iOS app. it only cost me $50 and it works. I can search my Bibles (even offline) and my reading plans sync. it doesn't have all the resources or functionality of Logos but at the most important thing to me is having my reading plans with me and having them sync between my devices and Logos is broke. yes I said it Logos is broke, they've promised a lot and haven't delivered on much of it.

I've very disappointed and yes a little pissed that I've invested so much and have a substandard product for my money. If they were any other company i would have dumped them a long time ago but I gave them the benefit of the doubt and am severely disappointed in the product.

I am going to be attempting to transfer my licenses. I have the Platinum library and some additional resources so if you know anyone that's looking please have them contact me.

... but at the most important thing to me is having my reading plans with me and having them sync between my devices and Logos is broke. yes I said it Logos is broke, they've promised a lot and haven't delivered on much of it.

Understand.  On 26 Oct 2011, Logos developer posted => Reading plan sync status that included:

KS4J, I understand that sync v2 is supposed to fix the reading plan sync issue. What frustrates me is that when I first started using the iOS app my reading plans did sync so I'm not sure when this became an issue. If they worked at one point and then the software was updated obviously they broke it when they changed the code in the newer version. What is frustrating for me is that I have invested several thousand dollars in Logos yet I can by another program for $50 and reading plans and notes will sync. I've been hearing it's coming and keep getting told feature parity is coming. They've been saying that since the initial releases so if their track records hold true I might see it before they release another version. It's been 2 years since they first released the Alpha's and still the software has major issues (at least for me). I paid for an upgrade of my base package off of the belief that the Mac version would be comparable to the windows version and that it would work. Well based off of being told it would have feature parity and all the great things it would do I've continued to invest in resources so know I am a little upset after making such a major investment that I've wasted my money because I have to use other software just to have reading plans and notes when I'm on the go. This is ridiculous. I'm not investing any more in Logos resources. Logos has wasted my time while I've waited for promises that they haven't delivered on and they've gotten a lot of money from me but they won't get any more.

Sorry if I seem bitter but there are other things I could have done with my money that would have been a better investment and gotten a better ROI on than Logos at this point.

I'm just tired of them promising and 2 years later they are still lacking on the Mac software. They would never let this happen with the Windows version and I know there is a bigger user base for windows but they shouldn't have sold it and had people believing that the Mac version would compare to windows. I've been waiting for 2 years for this and it's been several months now that they have been saying when 4.5 is released it will fix a lot of the issues. Well how much longer am I supposed to wait. If I hadn't invested so much in Logos (believe it would work correctly) I could get another program but now I am stuck. That's what's frustrating.

I can't use it to take notes when I'm reading on the go (I ride the train) so I'm having to use a separate program for taking notes while I'm studying on the go and then having to transfer them back to my Mac and have the separate program open to just view the notes I took while commuting. I purchased Logos because of the advanced study capabilities they promised but they can't even get basic things working like notes and highlighting after 2 years.

nity and be sure to readjust your star rating and let let App Store know there is an App with less than accurate description!  New users do not have access to these forums and they need to be warned that they are not getting what is advertised before they switch to an iPad or iPhone or heaven forbid buy a Logos package expecting it to work!

In a post earlier today (NIV on iOS: Thanks Logos), I posted my thanks for discovering NIV.  Unfortunately in same post I mentioned my new reading plan actually sync'ing between both platforms two days in a row.  Few hours later....it has now created six plans on iPad, none of which are like the one I created yesterday on the Mac.  Should have known better and kept quiet.  Back to hard-copy record.  

I just deleted my reading plans from last year off my iPhone and it created a "Read the Bible in a Year" on my iPhone. I tried deleting that one and 6 were created on my iPad. I deleted all of them off my iPad except 1 and marked the first reading as read on my iPhone. It didn't appear as read on my iPad. after deleting the reading plan off of my iPad it created another 'Read the Bible in a YEar" and that one showed the first reading as complete (with a check mark). I went to Biblia.com and my old reading plan was gone and the new one with the first reading complete is on the website. This reading plan is not showing up in Logos 4 and the reading plans there are not syncing across to my iOS devices or to Biblia.com. When I deleted the reading plan off of my iPhone it recreated one without the first reading checked. This created an additional identical reading plan on my iPad so now I have 2 reading plans on my iPad with no readings completed, 1 reading plan on my iPhone with none completed. I refreshed Biblia.com and now can see 5 identical reading plans but cannot scroll down to see if there are any more. i also now have 5 identical reading plans on my iPhone.

I know they said there were sync issue but this is ridiculous. When the iPhone app first came out I was able to sync my reading plan. I was able to keep using that racing plan throughout the year. A few time it would take several outs to sync updates when I marked something as read on an iOS device but other than that it was working.

I know they said it was a sync issue but something got broken when they did an update somewhere because it was slow syncing but I never had these issues.

I've started using You Version for my reading plan on my iPhone/iPad. At least theirs works and syncs between devices and the webpage. They haven't been around very long at all and they managed to get this right. 

Oh yea, I know have 5 identical reading plans on my iPad too. I'm afraid if I delete them aging I'll end up with 50 identical plans and none of the are the plans I set up on Logos 4.

Way to go Logos!

p.s. I'm tired of hearing it's being fixed. They've been saying that since October and still can't tell us when it will be done. maybe they should have made sure the sync functionality worked before deploying it for use and adding other items to sync. Logos website still claims that the data will sync across all devices. Maybe they should stop claim that it syncs across all devices and say hopefully someday it will sync.

I shouldn't be surprised about this because they were saying they were coming out with a mac version and it took over a year of waiting after they announced it and 1.1 was really poor. They they promised all these great things with Logos 4 and how the Mac version would be the same as the windows version and 2 years later they are still promising it is coming.