Syntax Searching
I am requesting for someone to please help me to understand how to perform syntax searching. IN particular, how to build a search query. I know what i want to look for, but i am not always sure how to create the search. Are their any videos, or is there someone who can guide me through building a particular syntax search. I began searching for another software that may perhaps make syntax searching a bit easier in regards to creating search queries. Please do not misunderstand me. I love logos, and believe hold heartily that it is the superior program. I am just a bit frustrated that there seems to be no training in regards to using this feature in logos 4.
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Orpheus ... have you searched Logos.com? I did, after I saw your message. I put in 'Syntax Videos' and I notice several free ones, plus some text guidance (both Logos4 plus a lot of help on syntax searching with L3 but same approach).
I have the Libronix syntax videos which are good; I think they cost me $5! As I understand it, they're being updated. But while you wait for answers, you might look at some of the 'free' stuff available.
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Orpheus Heyward said:
I am requesting for someone to please help me to understand how to perform syntax searching. IN particular, how to build a search query.
The following two threads might help:
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/11066.aspx
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/11205/87831.aspx
Also if you start a search and post a screen shot of what you come up with, even if you know it isn't right, someone can give you direction from there.
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Orpheus Heyward said:
IN particular, how to build a search query.
Wiki Getting Started with Logos has => Search section that includes links to wiki pages => Setting up a Syntax Search (right side of page has 5 links to Logos videos) and => A Strategy for Syntax Search
Wiki Logos 4 Video Tutorials includes links => Constructing a Syntax Search: Rom 5:1 (Cascadia) , => Syntax Searching for Everyone: Grammatical Relationships and => What can you do with a Syntax Database?
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Thank you all very much!
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Ok. I tried my best to search for other grammatical structures matching John 3:5, which has one preposition governing two nouns. Here is what i came up with, but it did not yield any results. What did I do wrong?
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Ok. I tried my best to search for other grammatical structures matching John 3:5, which has one preposition governing two nouns. Here is what i came up with, but it did not yield any results. What did I do wrong?
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Ok. Finally. here is my attempt to find grammatical parallels to the John 3:5 prepositional phrase. I am attempting to find two nouns governed by one preposition (EK). What did i do wrong?
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Sorry, I'm not ignoring you - I just rarely use Cascadia and can't quite get it to work either.
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Hi Orpheus
Does this give you what you want?
Note I have introduced an extra phrase level to match the structure of John 3:5
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
Note I have introduced an extra phrase level to match the structure of John 3:5
Personally living and learning that Cascadia search diagram can be a bit simplier (albeit terminal node is needed for prepositional phrase).
Orpheus Heyward said:I am attempting to find two nouns governed by one preposition (EK). What did i do wrong?
Wonder about checking skip levels for Word 1 ? or adding Terminal Node for conjunction ?
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Hi KS4J
Interesting that your search finds Acts 12:11 whereas mine does not - I think this is because mine is more constraining.
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
Interesting that your search finds Acts 12:11 whereas mine does not - I think this is because mine is more constraining.
Wonder about enabling "Matching skip levels" for Terminal Node 4 ? In Acts 12:11 the first word after the conjunction is an adjective while the third word is a noun.
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Hi KS4J
Wonder about enabling "Matching skip levels" for Terminal Node 4 ? In Acts 12:11 the first word after the conjunction is an adjective while the third word is a noun.
I had to enable "Matching skip levels" on Terminal Node 1 as well.
This is because there are three "NP" markers in that branch not the two which I had in my diagram.
I don't think either is particularly right or wrong - it just depends on the level of granularity one wishes to impose on the search
Graham
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Hi KS4J
Wonder about enabling "Matching skip levels" for Terminal Node 4 ? In Acts 12:11 the first word after the conjunction is an adjective while the third word is a noun.
I had to enable "Matching skip levels" on Terminal Node 1 as well.
This is because there are three "NP" markers in that branch not the two which I had in my diagram.
I don't think either is particularly right or wrong - it just depends on the level of granularity one wishes to impose on the search
Graham
Edit: Apologies - multiple post due to my error.
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Thank you much! Still trying to learn this. It open text anymore difficulty or less difficult?
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Hi Orpheus
Orpheus Heyward said:Thank you much!
You are welcome
Orpheus Heyward said:Still trying to learn this
I think we all are!!
Orpheus Heyward said:It open text anymore difficulty or less difficult?
It is different - it would probably look something more like this
I, personally, find Cascadia easier and provides finer control.
There are some threads which contrast the options - I'll see if I can find some
Graham
EDIT: Have a look at http://community.logos.com/forums/t/46299.aspx for a comparison of the different databases.
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