What resources would you most like to see available in Logos?
Logos has added so many resources lately. What is left that you would most like to see added?
1. Wesley's Works (the new Thomas Oden edition)
2. New Cambridge Bible Commentary
3. William Barclay's Daily Study Bible
4. NIV Application Commentary (the additional volumes not yet in Logos)
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
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- Biblica: The Bible Atlas: A Social and Historical Journey Through the Lands of the Bible ***
- IVP Atlas of Bible History
- Moody Atlas of Bible Lands ***
- Holman Bible Atlas
- Macmillan Bible Atlas
- Zondervan NIV Atlas of the Bible
- Baker Atlas of Christian History *** - something like this would be invaluable because the Logos maps in Biblical Places do not cover the geography of Christianity after the New Testament. Would love to look up places like Hippo where Augustine lived, maps of Europe at the time of the Reformation (what parts were Catholic, what parts Protestant), etc.
- Biblica: The Bible Atlas: A Social and Historical Journey Through the Lands of the Bible ***
- IVP Atlas of Bible History
- Moody Atlas of Bible Lands ***
- Holman Bible Atlas
- Macmillan Bible Atlas
- Zondervan NIV Atlas of the Bible
- Baker Atlas of Christian History *** - something like this would be invaluable because the Logos maps in Biblical Places do not cover the geography of Christianity after the New Testament. Would love to look up places like Hippo where Augustine lived, maps of Europe at the time of the Reformation (what parts were Catholic, what parts Protestant), etc.
- NETS translation of the LXX
- The rest of NIVAC
- Family in the Bible: Exploring Customs, Culture, and Context - Richard S. Hess
- Honor, Patronage, Kinship & Purity: Unlocking New Testament Culture by David Arthur DeSilva
- All Kenneth Bailey, esp Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes & Poet and Peasant
- Eugene Peterson's series of books including "Eat This Book" and "Practice Resurrection", "Tell It Slant" and the rest
- Timothy Keller's books & sermons
- Virtuoso Theology: The Bible and Interpretation by Frances M. Young
- Joachim Jeremias, esp on Parables and History of Jerusalem
- Plutarch, Plato, Aristotle, Homer, Eusebius, etc. from Loeb Library PD works!
- The Ante-Nicene Fathers (10 Volume Set) by A. Cleveland Coxe Hardcover $299.00
The Ante-Nicene Fathers ranges from the Apostolic Fathers to various third and fourth century sources including the liturgies and ancient Syriac documents. It was intended to comprise translations into English of all the extant works of the Fathers (with the exception of the more bulky works of Origen) down to the date of the first General Council held at Nicaea in 325 A.D. This American edition by Arthur Cleveland Coxe is a revision of the original series edited by Alexander Roberts and Sir James Donaldson and published in Edinburgh. The revision involves a major rearrangement to conform to the historical sequence, the addition of brief introductions and notes indicating variances in readings, specifying references to scripture or literature, clarifying obscure passages, and noting corruptions or distortions of patristic testimony (as forged in the Decretals). The basic aim of the translations has been to strive for literary exactness, placing the English reader as nearly as possible on an equal footing with those who are able to read the original.
Volume Titles:
Volume 1: Apostolic Fathers, Justin Martyr, Inrenaeus
Volume 2: Hermas, Tatian, Athenagoras, Theophilus, Clement of Alexandria
Volume 3: Tertullian
Volume 4: Tertullian (IV), Minucius Felix, Commodian, Origen
Volume 5: Hippolytus, Cyprian, Caius, Novatian, Appendix
Volume 6: Gregory Thaumaturgus, Dionysius the Great, Julius Africanus, Anatolius and Minor Writers, Methodius, Arnobius
Volume 7: Lactantius, Venantius, Asterius, Victorinus, Dionysius, Apostolic Teaching and Constitutions, Homily, and Liturgies
Volume 8: Twelve Patriarchs, Excerpts and Epistles, The Clementina, Aprocryphal Gospels and Acts, Syriac Documents
Volume 9: Gospel of Peter, Diatessaron, Testament of Abraham, Epistles of Clement, Origen and Miscellaneous Works
Volume 10: Bibliography, General Index, Annotated Index of Authors and Works
Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers: Second Series, 14 Volumes by Alexander Roberts Hardcover $267.29The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers: Second Series contains in fourteen volumes the works of the Greek Fathers from Eusebius to John of Damascus and the Latin Fathers from Hilary to Gregory the Great. Several of the writings appear for the first time in English. The first three volumes are a complete collection of the historical writings of the Fathers, whose permanent value as the primary sources is universally acknowledged. Other volumes contain the works of eminent figures in early Christian history, such as Athanasius, Jerome, and Ambrose. The series concludes with the canons and decrees of the seven ecumenical councils, as well as canons of local synod with ecumenical acceptance. The Second Series is edited by Philip Schaff, eminent church historian and professor at Union Theological Seminary, NY, and Henry Wace, Principal of Kings College, London. - http://www.logos.com/product/5771/early-church-fathers-protestant-edition and
- http://www.logos.com/product/7832/early-church-fathers-special-catholic-edition
- http://www.logos.com/product/5771/early-church-fathers-protestant-edition and
- http://www.logos.com/product/7832/early-church-fathers-special-catholic-edition
- The 1966, 1967, 1968 Jerusalem Bible Reader's Edition. Or the 1975 Bible in Order. Suggested in: Jerusalem Bible or 1975 Bible In Order
- James by Richard Bauckham (not available in Logos, expensive) - New Testament Readings -series
... it has been suggested by fgh: Commentaries on the Deuterocanonicals and OT/NT Apocrypha - The best text-critical edition of the Latin Bible (it's not the Nova Vulgata). The end-of-2011 Oxford Encyclopedia of the Books of the Bible says that it's: Editors Robert Weber, Roger Gryson et al. (2007). Biblia Sacra iuxta vulgatum versionem. 5th Ed. Stuttgart: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft.
- a book that says which verses in the Bible speak to the clergy only
- Biblical Archaeology Review newest issues
- 2004 Good News Translation 3rd Edition UK English Edition, suggested in: 1992 GNT-CE 2nd ed. preferably with Anglicized text and 1971 GNB 3rd...
- New Standard Bible. It's a light linguistical revision of the RSV, including many Apocryphal books: Read about the New Standard...
The unabridged Hebrew-Aramaic Lexicon!!!
We have this one available already, that is if you mean the unabridged HALOT (Hebrew Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament (5 vols.)
The unabridged Hebrew-Aramaic Lexicon!!!
I believe he was referring to : http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/
I would also like to see this, along with:
1. New English Translation of the Septuagint (NETS)
2. More patristics in Greek
3. Lampe's Patristic Greek Lexicon
2. More patristics in Greek
Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Graeca (167 vols.)
You just need to find enough bidders to get it into production.[:)]
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I did a quick search Foxe's Book of Martyrs, My-utmost-for-his-highest, and Tozer-Knowledge-Of-The-Holy.
Can all be found as a pdf on many websites. they could be converted to a pbb.
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None of these will ever be in Logos, but one can always dream of them:
1. Muraoka: Classical Syriac: A Basic Grammar with Chresthomathy
2. Sokoloff: A Syriac Lexicon
3. Fischer: A Grammar of Classical Arabic
4. Wright: A Grammar of the Arabic Language
5. Wehr: Arabic-English Dictionary
6. Moscati: An Introduction to Comparative Grammar of Semitic Languages
7. Lipinski: Semitic Languages: Outline of a Comparative Grammar
8. Lambdin: Introduction to Classical Ethiopic
9. Leslau: Comparative Dictionary of Ge'ez
10. Leslau: Concise Dictionary of Ge'ez
11. Huehnergard: A Grammar of Akkadian (3rd ed.)
12. A Concise Dictionary of Akkadian
None of these will ever be in Logos, but one can always dream of them:
For the most part I would agree that these are desirable works to have, but I would disagree regarding the "concise" versions. It isn't as though we're going to walk around with these in an attachè case so why have a concise version?
george
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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
All Bibles currently in pre-pub or community pricing especially the collection of older English translations and the REB.
The Community Bible
The apocrypha section of Bibles that include it but have excluded in Logos
Important early translations - Georgian, Armenian, Gothic, Anglo-Saxon (partial), Old Church Slavonic, ...
This is, remember, BIBLE study software.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
The unabridged edition of Foxe's Book of Martyrs. Particularly the 1684 edition http://www.greatsite.com/facsimile-reproductions/foxe-1684.html
Including all of the artwork.
Jason Saling
The unabridged edition of Foxe's Book of Martyrs. Particularly the 1684 edition http://www.greatsite.com/facsimile-reproductions/foxe-1684.html
Including all of the artwork.
Great suggestion!
More and better Atlases, complete with all text, color illustrations, indexes, etc. E.g.:
*** I have all of these in print, and they are excellent; especially Biblica and the Baker one
Real Art! I want to be able to search in Logos for a particular Bible passage and find reproductions of all the great paintings related to it. Most of them are in the public domain. They are wonderful to use as illustrations for sermons and classes, and for one's own meditation/reflection on a Biblical story. There are vast numbers of these already available online and indexed by websites such as Art Concordance, The Bible and Art, Biblical Art on the WWW, etc. Logos shouldn't let free websites be the leaders in this area! Even though quality reproductions are available all over the web, I'd pay to have a good-sized collection of them all in my Logos Library to ensure that I'd have access to them all the time and they'd be of similar quality, high enough resolution for display in PowerPoint, with all the correct title/artist/date/location/Scripture reference information, all of which would searchable.
More and better Atlases, complete with all text, color illustrations, indexes, etc. E.g.:
Great suggestions; I am not familiar with your first listing though. I would also like to second Michael Childs' suggestion of more NIV Application commentaries. We already have available the entire NT and the OT prophets, but are missing Enns on Exodus and the ones from the historical and wisdom books.
the complete collection of the works of Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones
Yes, indeed. [Y][Y] Great suggestion, and better than any of mine.
(Though I would so love to see that new more scholarly edition of Wesley by Oden!)
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
I know he is already represented to a degree, but it would be good to have the complete collection of the works of Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones... I am thinking particularly of his lectures on Romans...
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Honor, Patronage, Kinship & Purity: Unlocking New Testament Culture by David Arthur DeSilva
Done: http://www.logos.com/products/details/2961
Book of Common Prayer,
We had several hints that we should see this in prepub "soon." If we can get it to production quickly that encourage Logos to obtain rights to similar works. Yes, Celtic Christian sources would be a nice addition.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
NIV Study Bible (Zondervan told me directly that this was in Logos' hands, not theirs.)
Jewish Study Bible.
Etz Hayyim (a three-tiered Jewish commentary)
Civilizations of the Ancient Near East (CANE, 4 volumes)
Jastrow to make it out of Prepub
Elephantine Papyri (ok, I likely no longer have a practical use for this, but I'd like it anyway, and another company has it.)
Rashi?
The works of Robert Alter (Art of Biblical Narrative, etc.) and translations/commentaries (Genesis, Samuel, Psalms)
Oh, and The Torah: A Modern Commentary by Gunther Plaut
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
Puritan Paperback series by Banner of Truth. Actually the entire Banner of Truth library.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Logos has added so many resources lately. What is left that you would most like to see added?
A morph search that works properly (bring back the L3 method) and notes at least a good as in L3.
george
gfsomsel
יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
This is a fine thread, but I hope you all realize this is not the place to get your requests heard by Logos. I'm not sure they even have time to read the General forum. The best way to get requests seen is email them to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, because that goes right into an email Inbox at Logos and they'll log them in a database somewhere. Second best is post them in the Suggestions forum. That's second best because someone has to keep on top of the forum and sometimes they don't have time to read everything. They never respond on the Suggestions forum so it sometimes feels like a black hole. The email address does too, but at least you know it's going to some Inbox somewhere (it doesn't bounce) and won't get lost in the shuffle. There is also one more place to make resource suggestions: the wiki Product Wishlist page. We have not heard any recent word from Logos that they're actually paying any attention to it, so it's mostly a duplicate place for you to post your suggestions so that others can quickly see if something they are requesting has already been suggested. If you just want to send in the request once, use the email address.
Some that would have relatively wide appeal...
Bauckham's Jesus and the Eyewitnesses
Kaesemann's Romans
Barth's Romans
Walter Raushenbusch
The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann
L8 Anglican, Lutheran and Orthodox Silver, Reformed Starter, Academic Essentials
L7 Lutheran Gold, Anglican Bronze
I have a question which kinda goes with this topic. I'm trying to rationalize purchasing a LOGOS 5 plan, and i don't want to just purchase a whole bunch of material which will either go unread, or keep me from viewing the resources which I am most interested in. I'm loving the idea of the timeline, so at this point i'm looking at either a Gold plan or a Platinum plan. The thing is, i've been researching Apologetics and Patristics with a friend, and am seriously considering purchasing these three sets from Amazon.com; (or have been for over 2 years) - but am closer to pulling the trigger. In everything else, I have switched from purchasing books in print, and have moved to either Kindle, iBooks, Zinio, Kno, or iTunes-U. I have a Macbook, & an iPad2 to work with. I've also downloaded Olive Tree, Bible.com's App, and a number of other "free" App versions of Bible study or Scripture diving - but have not picked one as a solid winner to start investing in a large library with. in fact, all the books i've purchased in iOS have either been free in app purchases, or less than $2.99.
What i'm looking to purchase in digital format are these books from Amazon (however Amazon doesn't offer this in digital format):
Volume Titles:Volume 1: Eusebius: Church History, Life of Constantine the Great, Oration in Praise of ConstantineVolume 2: Socrates, Sozomenus: Church HistoriesVolume 3: Theodoret, Jerome, Gennadius, Rufinus: Historical WritingsVolume 4: Anthanasius: Selects Works and LettersVolume 5: Gregory of Nyssa: Dogmatic Treatises, etc.Volume 6: Jerome: Letters and Select WorksVolume 7: Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory NazianzenVolume 8: Basil: Letters and Select WorksVolume 9: Hilary of Poitiers, John of DamascusVolume 10: Ambrose: Select Works and LettersVolume 11: Sulpitius Severus, Vincent of Lerins, John CassianVolume 12: Leo the Great, Gregory the GreatVolume 13: Gregory the Great, Ephraim Syrus, Aphrahat
Volume 14: The Seven Ecumenical Councils
I guess what i'm asking, is are these covered in any one Plan of Logos 5? Am i being too overzealous in my quest for study. I'm looking at the plans and all I see from the list is a reference to Early Christian Fathers. I wonder to what degree these early Christian works are made available in Logos 5. I hear many people say that Logos 5 is worth every penny, and that spurs on my smile, and thought that if i make an investment in scripture, i can't go wrong, unless i just don't read. while I hear others look at me like i'm trying to purchase every language that Rosetta Stone offers. Should i just stick with the next language i'm looking to learn (eg: purchase a lighter plan and just start to fall in love with LOGOS gradually?) or is it better - given that the search factors in the specific questions you are looking for - to just dive into the faith and absorb as much as i can before i come up for air?
Stephen,
welcome to the Logos user forums.
The resources you mention are part of the ECF collection available in a protestant and a catholic edition:
you'll see to the right of the screen the L5 packages where each of the two are contained. The Amazon Hardcover prices are ridiculous, given the fact that the Logos versions are searchable, linked and linkable etc.
Hope this helps,
Mick
Have joy in the Lord!
,Stephen,
welcome to the Logos user forums.
The resources you mention are part of the ECF collection available in a protestant and a catholic edition:
you'll see to the right of the screen the L5 packages where each of the two are contained. The Amazon Hardcover prices are ridiculous, given the fact that the Logos versions are searchable, linked and linkable etc.
Hope this helps,
Mick
Mick,
Thank you very much - this answers my question, and i appreciate it greatly. [:D]
I hadn't seen that the Early Church Fathers came in two different sets: Protestant Edition & Catholic Edition. What's more is there is a link that shows me the authors in the sets. I love it! Thank you thank you thank you. PS: Thank you LOGOS 5. I think this just helped me make my decision. One last question - is all this content accessed via online search database through LOGOS 5, or is actually downloaded to the device itself?
Guided by Him,
Stephen
If You want the Catholic Edition, one option is to buy a minimum base-package at http://www.logos.com/verbum that contains it - if You want the additional books/Bibles.
I hadn't seen that the Early Church Fathers came in two different sets: Protestant Edition & Catholic Edition.With very few exceptions all content is downloaded to Your internal drive (Logos 5 can't be installed on an external drive) and then indexed. After that You don't need an internet connection, You access Your books from the drive. For faster search response an SSD might be a good investment.
The only exceptions are the Faithlife Community that's on the internet and a few items that come on a CD or DVD, such as Catholic Practicum: Learn to Use Logos Bible Software, Biblical Archaeology Review collection (up to 2005, not sold anymore on the logos site, can perhaps be purchased second-hand), The Essential IVP Reference Collection Version 3 (if purchased second-hand (cheaper), Learn to Do Word Studies with Logos Bible Software, Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software, Introducing New Testament Discourse Grammar: Video Series, but all those can be copied to the HDD or SSD, as I've understood it an external one will function.
One last question - is all this content accessed via online search database through LOGOS 5, or is actually downloaded to the device itself?
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I guess what i'm asking, is are these covered in any one Plan of Logos 5? Am i being too overzealous in my quest for study. I'm looking at the plans and all I see from the list is a reference to Early Christian Fathers. I wonder to what degree these early Christian works are made available in Logos 5. I hear many people say that Logos 5 is worth every penny, and that spurs on my smile, and thought that if i make an investment in scripture, i can't go wrong, unless i just don't read. while I hear others look at me like i'm trying to purchase every language that Rosetta Stone offers. Should i just stick with the next language i'm looking to learn (eg: purchase a lighter plan and just start to fall in love with LOGOS gradually?) or is it better - given that the search factors in the specific questions you are looking for - to just dive into the faith and absorb as much as i can before i come up for air?
The sets you mention above are what Logos calls "Early Church Fathers". For some more information about the Logos version, please see the product page at http://www.logos.com/product/5771/early-church-fathers-protestant-edition They are included in Silver and up collections.
As far as picking a package? The higher level packages are expensive, but they do include a lot of resources - including a lot of standard reference works that to purchase in any format would be expensive. You know what you can afford financially. In general, Logos tries to make the bigger packages into bigger deals, but how "good" those deals are is dependent on what you are interested in.
SDG
Ken McGuire
The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann
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2. New Cambridge Bible Commentary
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1. All Czech modern translations of the Bible, especially Czech Study Translation.
2. At least one Polish modern Bible translation.
3. Stanley M. Horton books, especially Logion Press Commentaries.
EDIT: As you can see here the Czech Study Translation is coming to Logos soon. Great news. Well, the other 3 modern translations (Czech Ecumenical Bible, Bible, 21st Century Translation and the Jerusalem Bible) are still in a waiting list... [:)]
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It's hard to choose, but here are three works of which I had to consult the paper edition in the last 5 days:
1. John Calvin's sermons.
2. Mishnah (e.g. the "Giessen Edition").
3. Joachim Jeremias, The Parables of Jesus.
With Bavinck on its way, I also hope that Logos will continue working together with the Dutch Translation Society.
1. More early translations - Armenian, Georgian, Friscan, Anglo-saxons etc.
2. Standard glosses to the Vulgate
3. More materials from the Eastern Church fathers.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
How about some of the "ArtScroll Series", Stone Edition Chumash etc.
Ditto!
The unabridged Dictionary of Classical Hebrew (6 vols.)
http://www.sheffieldphoenix.com/showbook.asp?bkid=66
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