This is exciting!

Butters
Butters Member Posts: 466
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

However, I am a little confused, which isn't unusual  Big Smile

I am a poor classics student - so I purchased the LSJ and use that as best as I can with the Perseus texts.  It's really great but I do wish they were more "linked."  Especially on my Ipad which is where I do most of my study.  

I have two questions:  

The Greek Bundle sounds pretty good.  Does it come with an iOS platform that allows better linking between texts and resources?  If so, I'd snatch this up in a second.  What else would I need to purchase to make this work?   

Also, the Ancient Greek Philosophy texts appear to be in English translations.  What gives??

Thanks!  Again, this is unbelievably exciting news!!!

Cheers,

~micawber 

“To love means loving the unlovable.  To forgive means pardoning the unpardonable.  Faith means believing the unbelievable.  Hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless.” ~Chesterton

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    the Ancient Greek Philosophy texts

    That's $79.95. You could have bought Plato and Aristotle in CP for $10 + $40 in March. Did you miss that?

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  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466

    yeah, I'm afraid I'm not around much and miss things like that.  But those appear to be in English anyway, or am I wrong about that?  

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Subscribe to the RSS feed. Or the e-mail list.

    Yes, it looks that way.

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

     It's really great but I do wish they were more "linked."  Especially on my Ipad which is where I do most of my study.  

    Does it come with an iOS platform that allows better linking between texts and resources?

    You can link resources on both the desktop and the iOS apps.

    http://www.logos.com/support/bible/ios/panels

    Does that help?

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  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466

    Thanks Mark.  Well, if I have, say, the Odyssey on the top panel and my LSJ on the bottom panel; and I Link & Sync them as described in that mini tutorial, now what?  

    I choose a word - and I have the choice of "look up" or "search."  I'd think that if you chose the word, the lemma would appear below in the LSJ, no? 

    I must be missing something...like a brain?  LOL?  

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Mark.  Well, if I have, say, the Odyssey on the top panel and my LSJ on the bottom panel; and I Link & Sync them as described in that mini tutorial, now what?

    Oh, I see. No it doesn't work like that. Link/Sync is designed for two resources that share the same reference. So it would sync the Greek text and and English translation, or the text and a commentary on the text.

    I choose a word - and I have the choice of "look up" or "search."  I'd think that if you chose the word, the lemma would appear below in the LSJ, no? 

    On the desktop you can achieve this be clicking the resource menu in LSJ and choosing "Send hyperlinks here". There's no equivalent in iOS, though sorry.

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  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466

    oh, that's too bad.  Is that sort of thing planned for iOS?  

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    oh, that's too bad.  Is that sort of thing planned for iOS?  

    I would hope that Noet might bring some improvements to the lookup facility of the mobile apps, but no-one from Logos has ever said that it's on the roadmap, as far as I know. So all we can do for now is open a split screen, press and hold on the Greek text in the upper window and choose Bible Word Study, and then select LSJ from the lower window. It's more steps than I would like, and requires an internet connection, but it's the best we've got at the moment.

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  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466

    Thanks Mark - I should think this would be a primary focus.  Most peeps going forward will be doing work on iOS devices, I'd be willing to bet.  

    One thing I don't get though:  if I follow what you say, what's an easy way to get back to where I was in the original text??

    Thanks again for all your help!

    “To love means loving the unlovable.  To forgive means pardoning the unpardonable.  Faith means believing the unbelievable.  Hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless.” ~Chesterton

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    if I follow what you say, what's an easy way to get back to where I was in the original text??

    If you have a split window open, you don't need to get back to where you were: http://www.logos.com/support/bible/ios/panels

    If you don't want a split window, you can use the history button to get back to where you were. Press it to go back once, press and hold to jump back further: http://www.logos.com/support/bible/ios/history

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  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466

    Thanks again Mark.  Sorry for being such a pain :) 

    In split screen, when I choose a word in the text on the top panel, I then choose "Look Up" and then "Bible Word Study." 

    Then, the "Bible Word Study" screen appears in the bottom panel.  In there, I press LSJ - when then changes the top panel to my LSJ at the word I'm looking for.  

    So, the top panel will toggle back and forth between my text and my LSJ; while the bottom panel will always be the "Bible Word Study."   

    Is that correct?  

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    So, the top panel will toggle back and forth between my text and my LSJ; while the bottom panel will always be the "Bible Word Study."   

    Is that correct?  

    Sorry, yes, that's how it works. I didn't have my iPhone to hand when I wrote the earlier message, and I misremembered which window opened where.

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  • Michael Grigoni
    Michael Grigoni Member Posts: 140

    Thanks for this exchange. If others have more thoughts about how the mobile app can better serve classicists, by all means let me know on this thread.

  • David
    David Member Posts: 2

    This is a fairly old thread, but I thought I'd add more support to Butters' requests!

    I'd definitely say that the Logos desktop program is amazing. Ideally, I'd like the iOS app to replicate the simplicity with which the desktop program undertakes searching of words: right-click on the word, click 'look up' and straight away links to the appropriate definition within LSJ on the bottom panel.

    I did have a read through the other threads concerning the Logos iOS app and understand there are some substantial differences between the desktop environment and iOS so that many of the more intensive features of the desktop aren't able to incorporated to the iOS app. Ideally I'd particularly like an offline search for LSJ, but if that's not possible (due to the cloud-based nature of the word study tool I'm assuming), I would enormously appreciate a simplified word study process, preferably by-passing the 'word study' step completely and going straight to the LSJ!

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Peace to you, David!            *smile*                      I'm noticing that this is your first post; so, in behalf of the Logos Forums Community I bid you welcome to the Forums and thank you for posting!

                              The Logos Community Forums where Logos Bible Software users from the four corners of the earth attempt to help and support and inform and encourage one another in the usage of Logos Software have been helpful to many over the years; and I heartily invite you -- as you indeed have done!!! -- to participate and to share from your vantage point!  Also, your contribution is very positive indeed and much appreciated!

                                              *smile*

    David said:

    This is a fairly old thread, but I thought I'd add more support to Butters' requests!

    I'd definitely say that the Logos desktop program is amazing. Ideally, I'd like the iOS app to replicate the simplicity with which the desktop program undertakes searching of words: right-click on the word, click 'look up' and straight away links to the appropriate definition within LSJ on the bottom panel.

    I did have a read through the other threads concerning the Logos iOS app and understand there are some substantial differences between the desktop environment and iOS so that many of the more intensive features of the desktop aren't able to incorporated to the iOS app. Ideally I'd particularly like an offline search for LSJ, but if that's not possible (due to the cloud-based nature of the word study tool I'm assuming), I would enormously appreciate a simplified word study process, preferably by-passing the 'word study' step completely and going straight to the LSJ!

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  • David
    David Member Posts: 2

    Peace to you, David!            *smile*                      I'm noticing that this is your first post; so, in behalf of the Logos Forums Community I bid you welcome to the Forums and thank you for posting!

                              The Logos Community Forums where Logos Bible Software users from the four corners of the earth attempt to help and support and inform and encourage one another in the usage of Logos Software have been helpful to many over the years; and I heartily invite you -- as you indeed have done!!! -- to participate and to share from your vantage point!  Also, your contribution is very positive indeed and much appreciated!

                                              *smile*

    Many thanks for the very kind welcome Milford! It's a pleasure to be here. I'm very much looking forward to the release of Noet for desktop, and I think that occasion may chance the purchase of another monitor or two, perhaps Logos in one screen and Noet in another?

    Also I just happened to realise that one apparently need not click on 'look up' at all for Logos, all it takes is a double-click to bring up the appropriate entry in LSJ! I would think this far simpler (and less hazardous!) than to balance precariously on a stool to fetch the hardcover LSJ and pray that it doesn't give you a concussion if it slips out one's fingers.

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    *smile*                     !!!!

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