Question about Upgrade

Anthony Muckelt
Anthony Muckelt Member Posts: 14
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

I've just upgraded from Logos 5 Anglican Starter to Logos 6 Anglican Bronze. I'm a little confused as to why there are so many Catholic resources, particularly lectionaries included in an Anglican base package. I can't find a UK based lectionary.  

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    While you wait for Ben to write an L6 response, here is one about L5 that may interest you: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/91424/635156.aspx#635156.

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  • Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)
    Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 991

    Anthony Muckelt said:

    why there are so many Catholic resources

    The forum post that fgh pointed to probably offers the most helpful response to that question as the person there thinks the packages too Evangelical/Reformed. In addition to that, I would add that we tried to include resources that appealed to Anglicans,even if the resources themselves weren't written by an Anglican per se. That said, I'm curious what, specifically, you are referring to in Bronze? (The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is the Catholic version of Schaff's Fathers. We included this because some of the introductions and notes in the Protestant version of Schaff have some anti-Anglican sentiments.  There's a forum post with some illustrative quotes that I can't find right now).

    Anthony Muckelt said:

    I can't find a UK based lectionary.  

    I thought y'all used the RCL (at least for Sunday readings), is that not right? (e.g. here)

    FWIW, we're offering this lectionary on pre-pub right now https://www.logos.com/product/45495/the-lectionary-2015-common-worship-and-book-of-common-prayer

    We're working on more dynamic daily lectionaries, but they'll take some time.  

    I hope that helps, please feel free to follow up with more questions.

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  • Rayner
    Rayner Member Posts: 591
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/646259#Comment_646259

    The RCL is widely used by UK-based Anglicans. Some Anglo-catholics still likely use the RC lectionary :-)

    Many more Reformed parishes probably don't use the lectionary at all.

  • Anthony Muckelt
    Anthony Muckelt Member Posts: 14
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/646308#Comment_646308

    Thank you all for your useful replies. As I'm from a Reformed Evangelical background where the Lectionary wasn't used I wasn't aware that the RCL was used by UK Anglican Churches. 

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,403
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/646686#Comment_646686

    RCL is derived from the Catholic lectionary but is an ecumenical lectionary NOT a Catholic lectionary.

    Wikipedia list of adopters (sometimes optionally):

    The Revised Common Lectionary is used in its original or an adapted form by churches around the world. The Ordo Lectionum Missae, on which it is based, is used in the Roman Catholic Church in local translations as the standard lectionary. Various other churches have also adopted (and sometimes adapted) the RCL. These include:

    • United States
      • American Baptist Churches, USA
      • Community of Christ
      • Disciples of Christ
      • Episcopal Church in the United States of America
      • Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
      • King's Chapel, Boston - an autonomous Unitarian Universalist church in the Anglican tradition
      • Moravian Church in America
      • Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod
      • Presbyterian Church USA
      • Reformed Church in America
      • United Church of Christ
      • United Methodist Church
      • Unitarian Universalist Christian Fellowship
    • Canada
      • Anglican Church of Canada
      • Canadian Baptists of Western Canada
      • United Church of Canada
      • Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada
      • Mennonite Church Canada
    • United Kingdom
      • Church of England
      • Church of Scotland
      • Church in Wales
      • Methodist Church of Great Britain
      • Scottish Episcopal Church
      • United Reformed Church
    • Philippines
      • Apostolic Catholic Church
      • Convention of Philippine Baptist Churches
      • Episcopal Church of the Philippines
      • Philippine Independent Church
      • United Church of Christ in the Philippines
      • The United Methodist Church in the Philippines
    • Australia
      • Anglican Church of Australia
      • Uniting Church in Australia
    • Italy
      • Evangelical Reformed Baptist Churches in Italy

    OR perhaps more accurately:

    The following is a 1998 listing of those churches or ecclesial communities around the world that use (and in some cases have adapted)  the Common Lectionary in its original (1983) or revised (1992) form. (Some information is also provided about churches using their own adaptation of the Roman Lectionary).


    Australia        


    • Uniting Church        


    • Anglican Church        


    • Lutheran Church (uses an adapted version of Roman Lectionary)


    Canada


    • Anglican Church of Canada        


    • Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada        


    • Presbyterian Church in Canada        


    • United Church of Canada

    Estonia Lutheran Church in Estonia
    Finland Lutheran Church (under consideration)
    France L'Englise Evangelique Lutherienne (adapted Roman Lectionary)
    Great Britain


    • Church of England        


    • Church in Wales (Anglican) (used as an alternative lectionary)        


    • Church of Scotland (Presbyterian)        


    • Scottish Episcopal Church        


    • United Reformed Church        


    • Methodist Church        


    • Churches Together in England (CTE) (recommend usage)

    Ireland Church of Ireland (Anglican) (used as an experimental alternative)
    Japan Anglican Church in Japan (uses adapted Roman Lectionary)
    Korea Presbyterian Church in Korea (and is used widely in Korean Protestantism generally)Melanesia         Anglican Church
    Netherlands Old Catholic Church         Council of Churches in the Netherlands (in adapted form in parts of the         Council's lectionary)
    New Zealand


    • Anglican Church        


    • Methodist Church        


    • Presbyterian Church (also in cooperating parishes incorporating        


    • Anglican,


    • Churches of Christ,


    • Congregational,


    • Methodist


    • Presbyterianchurches

    Papua New Guinea Anglican Church (uses an early adaptation of the Roman lectionary by the Australian Anglican Church)
    Polynesia Anglican Church (The Anglican Diocese of Polynesia includes the Cook Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Marguesas Islands, Kiribati, Nuie, Tokelau, Tonga, Tuvalu, Western and American Samoa)
    Southern Africa


    • Anglican Church of the Province of Southern Africa (includes Angola, South Africa, Mozambique, St. Helena, Lesotho, Swaziland)        


    • Methodist Church of Southern Africa        


    • Presbyterian Church of Southern Africa (includes Zimbabwe)

    United States


    • Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)        


    • Christian Fellowship of the Unitarian Universalist Association        


    • Christian Reformed Church in North America        


    • Episcopal Church (provisional use)        


    • Evangelical Lutheran Church in America        


    • Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)        


    • Reformed Church in America        


    • United Church of Christ        


    • United Methodist Church

    Venezuela Presbyterian Church of Venezuela

    I've also seen an American Baptist version.

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