NEW: BI100 Learn to Study the Bible, by Darrell Bock

Celeste Fiorillo
Celeste Fiorillo Member, Logos Employee Posts: 599
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

We've just posted our newest pre-pub: Learn to Study the Bible, by Darrell Bock

Dr. Darrell Bock, one of the world’s foremost biblical scholars, has distilled his decades of research and teaching experience into this single course on how to study the Bible with Logos Bible Software.

Dr. Bock begins by teaching you how to read Scripture in four basic steps. Then he teaches you how to study Scripture by understanding the original . . . . read more.

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  • Phelix Lockhart
    Phelix Lockhart Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    There is a quiz at the end of unit 1, but it is not coming up. It states that it is not available. Do you all know when it will be available?

  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,898 ✭✭✭

    We've just posted our newest pre-pub: Learn to Study the Bible, by Darrell Bock

    Dr. Darrell Bock, one of the world’s foremost biblical scholars, has distilled his decades of research and teaching experience into this single course on how to study the Bible with Logos Bible Software.

    Dr. Bock begins by teaching you how to read Scripture in four basic steps. Then he teaches you how to study Scripture by understanding the original . . . . read more.

    I pre-ordered this on 10/10 and my order page says it will not ship until 11/17. The link you provided seems to indicate it is ready now???

  • J David Shuttleworth
    J David Shuttleworth Member Posts: 94 ✭✭

    I have the course and I am abvle to access tghe quiz. I downloaded all of the media. Click on the menu button for the resource and there is an option to download all media. I am not sure if that is your problem but it maybe a place to start. 

    Bless you!!

  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭

    This course is ready now, if you ordered more than a $1,000 during Logos 6 launch.  If you did not it will download on the 17th.

  • Celeste Fiorillo
    Celeste Fiorillo Member, Logos Employee Posts: 599

    Fredc - Kenneth is correct, we also talked a bit about the status of BI100 in this thread: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/94107.aspx 

    Phelix - the quizzes are all available. If you continue to have issues, you may want to call into customer support: 1-800-875-6467

  • Miles Custis
    Miles Custis Member, Logos Employee Posts: 56

    There is a quiz at the end of unit 1, but it is not coming up. It states that it is not available. Do you all know when it will be available?

    What platform are you trying to open the quiz on? Our mobile apps currently don't support the self-test feature of Logos, so they will only work in the Logos desktop software.

  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,898 ✭✭✭

    Fredc - Kenneth is correct, we also talked a bit about the status of BI100 in this thread: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/94107.aspx 

    Phelix - the quizzes are all available. If you continue to have issues, you may want to call into customer support: 1-800-875-6467

    Got it. Thanks for the quick reply (Kenneth and Celeste)

  • Phelix Lockhart
    Phelix Lockhart Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    Thank, I was trying to open the quiz on my iPad.

  • David Bailey
    David Bailey Member Posts: 654

    I just purchased this to evaluate the content - not sure I will keep this.

    One thing I noticed immediately are the audio levels - when Dr. Bock speaks, the audio master level is very low (too low I think). When Logos speaks, it is at the right mastered level, but much louder than Dr. Bock's sessions.  I keep changing my speaker levels as a result.  Is this a recording bug?

    This occurs on both my Windows 7 and Mac OS 10.10 computers.

    David 

  • Josh Burdick
    Josh Burdick Member Posts: 38

    David, I've reviewed several of these lessons in the app and it does look like there are discrepancies in the audio levels between the screencasts and Dr. Bock's lecture material. I will have our team look into this first thing Monday morning. We will try to correct it as soon as possible and update the resource.

    Thank you for alerting us to this problem. I hope that apart from this error you can still find this course useful and valuable to your study.

  • David Bailey
    David Bailey Member Posts: 654

    David, I've reviewed several of these lessons in the app and it does look like there are discrepancies in the audio levels between the screencasts and Dr. Bock's lecture material. I will have our team look into this first thing Monday morning. We will try to correct it as soon as possible and update the resource.

    Thank you for alerting us to this problem. I hope that apart from this error you can still find this course useful and valuable to your study.

    Thank you Josh.

    David

  • Phelix Lockhart
    Phelix Lockhart Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    I have a concern with the course. It is recommended to have a platinum package for the course, but when I look tthrough the course I am going to have to purchase some books for the course. Why is this?

  • James Milne Smith
    James Milne Smith Member Posts: 126

    All the "required reading" resources should be in the Platinum package. You may not have some of the "see also" resources.

  • Mark Johnson
    Mark Johnson Member Posts: 280

    I have L5 Platinum and several of the required readings are not unlocked (especially the How to Study the Bible resource)

  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793

    I have L5 Platinum and several of the required readings are not unlocked (especially the How to Study the Bible resource)

    I'm coming in to this thread late, and do not have this resource. Do you have L5 Platinum or L6 Platinum? This will most likely make a difference, and if you have L5, it is probably the reason you don't have the resources required.

  • Phelix Lockhart
    Phelix Lockhart Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    Even in the required reading there are some that are locked. I have L6 Platinum and I have already purchased 2 books and it looks like I will have to purchase more. This is misleading, because I assume with platinum I would not have to purchase anymore books.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can you list the required books that are not in the Platinum so the problem can be straightened out?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Phelix Lockhart
    Phelix Lockhart Member Posts: 61 ✭✭

    The only one that is not unlocked in the required reading is Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, 2nd edition.

  • Whyndell Grizzard
    Whyndell Grizzard Member Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭

    Got this resource free with my upgrade purchase-  but even with the Collectors, and the Reformed bundle, making my library close to 13,000 volumes, I had 4 books missing to use the resource 100%.

    It would cost me an additional $150 for the 4 missing resources, that's assuming I did not call my Rep- to get better pricing, but considering they are all Baker products doubt very seriously it will be a very good discount.

    Platinum L6 does not give you what you need to view this product.

    Whats missing for me:

    A Handbook of New Testament Exegesis by 

    Inductive Bible Study: A Comprehensive Guide to the Practice of Hermeneutics

    by 

    Evangelical Dictionary of Theology (EDT), 2nd ed. by 

     Reading the Gospels Wisely: A Narrative and Theological Introduction by 

     

  • SteveHD
    SteveHD Member Posts: 535 ✭✭

    I do not have the course yet. Can you help me understand what the impact is of this issue. Does he refer to these and leave you feeling like you really must read the resource or a part of it in order to learn and continue on? Is it more like he quotes the resource but leaves you wishing for more to read on it? Is it just a casual reference that completist will insist on having but really would not need?

    I ask because I am trying hard to justify adding enough to get to $1000 so I can get the course. I certainly am not likely to have a good number of resources and will not be able to afford to add them. If references to these are too invasive then I will have to skip it.

  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭

    I liken the required readings and the see also readings for the course this way. 

    in a seminary or college course on this subject, the required readings would be what you need to do for a grade or a test , the see also would be to gain additional knowledge on the subject, but you will not be tested over it. 

    You can still gain knowledge just from the lectures Without doing the readings.  The readings just add flesh to the bones of the skeleton. 

  • James Milne Smith
    James Milne Smith Member Posts: 126

    But so far I have found that the "also read" articles add a lot of flesh to the bones, and are very useful resources in their own right.

  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭

    Adding more flesh to the bones is also a good thing.

  • Miles Custis
    Miles Custis Member, Logos Employee Posts: 56

    I do not have the course yet. Can you help me understand what the impact is of this issue

    The reading links are meant to supplement the lecture. Despite the label of "Required Reading" none of them are actually "required" (we are changing this label to "Suggested Reading" in future courses). Our editors go through the material and carefully select readings that best compliment the speakers' presentations. For the "Required Readings" we limit ourselves to using resources from the Platinum Collection so that users can have a baseline of resources they know will be utilized across all courses. For the "See Also" readings we try to link to the most useful resources that may or may not be included in the Platinum collection. We also provide links to different guides and tools (like the Passage Guide or Topic Guide) that will only draw from resources that are in your library.

    Our goal with these reading links is to provide you with relevant readings that will enhance the course, further your learning, and help you make better use of your Logos library. Since the Mobile Ed. courses are self-directed you can decide how much you make use of them (same goes for the quizzes). You can choose to just watch the lectures straight through without doing any additional reading, you can read through all the reading links, or you can dig deeper only on certain topics or segments.

  • Sakarias Ingolfsson
    Sakarias Ingolfsson Member Posts: 180 ✭✭

    David, I've reviewed several of these lessons in the app and it does look like there are discrepancies in the audio levels between the screencasts and Dr. Bock's lecture material. I will have our team look into this first thing Monday morning. We will try to correct it as soon as possible and update the resource.

    Thank you for alerting us to this problem. I hope that apart from this error you can still find this course useful and valuable to your study.

    The audio levels are generally on lower end in the MobileEd courses that I have bought, but this course is particularly difficult to use without either good headphones or a power amplifier. If there is the slightest noise in the room I am nearly unable to discern what Bock is saying, using the highest volume setting on either my laptop or tablet. This is a considerable problem for me since I do not live in a completely noise free home.