Font change

After updating yesterday, I was surprised to find that you changed the font. I much preferred the older font and wish that you had left an option to keep the other. It is harder for me to read now and I may choose a different electronic bible as my study bible. Why change a good thhing?

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Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/430503#Comment_430503

I just opened a Greek Bible on my iPhone and saw the theta in the new font. Not a fan. I still love it in English though. Any chance, when the option is added, that I'll be able to choose different fonts for each language?

Pastor Scott

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424618#Comment_424618

Have to chime in on this as well. I don't particularly have an issue with the new English font, but am extremely unhappy with the new Greek font. It is too much a "script" kind of typeface for me; I prefer block letters. In particular, the thetas are just ridiculously awkward for me. Every time I see one, I have to stop and think about what that is, and I am not a new Greek student; I've been reading and studying the Greek Biblical texts for 20 years. As someone else said above, it would be nice to have a choice. That is especially true when developers know they are making changes to a feature as admittedly subjective as a typeface, and as crucial to the very functionality of the app.

Joe Kaczmarek

I completely agree! The new font is much more difficult to read than the old font. I was REALLY disappointed when I saw the new font and found that there is no way to change it back or to a different font. The old font was excellent - readable, attractive and easy on the eyes during extended reading. The new font is exactly the opposite. I am hopeful that Logos will either revert to the old font or give us the choice of which font to use. As for the iOS version being free, it is. However, the content that we paid for is not and can be viewed only using Logos apps. I am extremely happy with the Logos platform and capabilities. This font change, however, is something that I do not understand and hope that Logos will change quickly

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/431664#Comment_431664

To everyone asking about Fonts - please see my previous posts. The development team intends to add the ability to use more than one font, although I don't exactly know when this will be implemented. Thanks for your patience.

Ken Bosward

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/433106#Comment_433106

Thanks Kevin. Although the clarity and rendering of the new font does seem nicer, for me the biggest problem is the increased vertical spacing and therefore wasted whitespace between lines. On my lowly iPod Touch 4 with the ESV bible at default font size (4th notch on slider) I can fit only 16 lines on a screen. At the next smaller size (3rd notch) I can see 19 lines but the smaller font size is a strain for my ageing eyes. By comparison, BibleReader can fit 22 lines on the screen with a bigger font (Georgia) which I find easier to read.

I don't know if it is possible, but in additional to being able to choose a font, would it be possible to include an adjustment to change the amount of space between lines?

Ken

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/433939#Comment_433939

Welcome to the forums Ken! [:)]

would it be possible to include an adjustment to change the amount of space between lines?

I think this would be a good idea too! FYI - the space between lines is called leading (Rhymes with "heading," not "reading.")

Andrew

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434013#Comment_434013

Please, when might Logos bring back the old font or offer an improved font for the iPad? I used to use Logos all the time on the iPad, but not any more. I have some knowledge of type-setting, book publishing, and fonts, and it seems to me the present font is far too ornate and decorative for text reading, more like a display font used for invitations, announcements etc., rather than for sustained reading. The serifs are strong and curved to such an extent that they distract the eye, and the font overall of a spidery appearance. (Perhaps it is better for smaller devices such as the iPad mini, or iPhone, but in my view, and it would seem in that of others also, certainly not on the iPad.) Even a plain non serif font would be better. I find myself going back to using Logos on my laptop most of the time, but this is not always convenient. The old saying was, "If it's not broke, don't mend it." If I had known sooner I would not have upgraded, but now I am at the mercy of Logos. Here's hoping that someone in development will take notice. There are so many good resources but I am not enjoying them on the iPad in the way I did previously.

Brother ( I hope not bother ) Andrew

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434013#Comment_434013

Welcome to the forums Ken!

would it be possible to include an adjustment to change the amount of space between lines?

I think this would be a good idea too! FYI - the space between lines is called leading (Rhymes with "heading," not "reading.")

There are plans to eventually add this feature, but I have no idea when.

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/437648#Comment_437648

Please, when might Logos bring back the old font or offer an improved font for the iPad?

Please see my previous posts.

Ben Bush

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/437655#Comment_437655

Was hoping to see ability to choose another font (or revert to old one) with last update. Possibility can be done ASAP in new year?

Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/445536#Comment_445536

Was hoping to see ability to choose another font (or revert to old one) with last update. Possibility can be done ASAP in new year?

The Greek font has already been fixed, they reverted it back to Gentium for iOS apps. As far as I know, Greek was where the major complaints lay.

Ben Bush

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/445583#Comment_445583

I was referring to English font(s). That's where I recall the most complaints/requests. Grateful that the Greek was rectified; now would be most appreciative for a choice between several English fonts (Baskerville, if I could have my druthers) or at least between the former default English font and the current offering. Regardless, grateful for Logos and the ability to have on my Ipad and phone as well as my computer. What a blessing!

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/445591#Comment_445591

I don't know if you saw the earlier posts by Kevin, but Logos is working on this... But I have no idea when we might see it.

John Murphy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/433106#Comment_433106

To everyone asking about Fonts - please see my previous posts. The development team intends to add the ability to use more than one font, although I don't exactly know when this will be implemented. Thanks for your patience.

Any update on this?

There have been a few updates to the app with no mention of adding back the old font as promised. Can you provide any details on when this will be added again?

Dan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/464896#Comment_464896

Any update on this?

There have been a few updates to the app in the last 10 months with no mention of adding back the old font as promised. Can you provide any details on when this will be added again?

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/531196#Comment_531196

Any update on this?

There have been a few updates to the app in the last 10 months with no mention of adding back the old font as promised. Can you provide any details on when this will be added again?

As mentioned before, I don't exactly know when this will be implemented and have no further details. Some might have the impression that I know the answer and am simply not telling you, but that's not the case (and that is a promise!). I don't prioritize which features are implemented or when; if I learn more I will let you know.

Paul Otheim

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/420151#Comment_420151

I'm sorry you do not like the decision to change the English font. What about it is more difficult to read?

My first thought is to say, 'duh . . . have you looked at it or tried to read it for any length of time?' Sorry, but your response sounds like something 'Hal" would have said in '2001 Space Odyssey'. The hollow font lines are not bold against a light background and they are even worse when you change the color scheme to a dark background. Can you imagine trying to read this post in that kind of font? Who's idea was this anyway? Who did you consult? If you were not going to consult the users, perhaps you should have at least consulted an ophthalmologist or an optometrist. I've had to switch to one of your competitor's apps to read the NASB. (BTW: my phone is a Samsung Galaxy Note II)

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/617138#Comment_617138

Hi Paul - and welcome to the forums.

With a Galaxy phone this would be better in the Android forums.

And please check http://community.logos.com/forums/t/86228.aspx as it looks similar to what you are describing.

Graham

John Murphy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/617138#Comment_617138

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Ben Bush

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/617143#Comment_617143

This is strange as Logos has really done a great job with iPad improvements since the beginning of this thread. Puzzling why neither font improvements nor options are available by now.

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/617138#Comment_617138

I'm sorry you do not like the decision to change the English font. What about it is more difficult to read?

My first thought is to say, 'duh . . . have you looked at it or tried to read it for any length of time?' Sorry, but your response sounds like something 'Hal" would have said in '2001 Space Odyssey'. The hollow font lines are not bold against a light background and they are even worse when you change the color scheme to a dark background. Can you imagine trying to read this post in that kind of font? Who's idea was this anyway? Who did you consult? If you were not going to consult the users, perhaps you should have at least consulted an ophthalmologist or an optometrist. I've had to switch to one of your competitor's apps to read the NASB. (BTW: my phone is a Samsung Galaxy Note II)

Hi Paul,

What version of the app are you running? The current Android version is 4.3.7... please make sure you are up to date and then let us know if the problem still occurs.

Russ White

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/617154#Comment_617154

I'm still looking for a way to change the typeface on the ipad app, and not just the size and color. I still don't see it being an available option in the latest version... I see a lot of other apps have this option -- can we please get it added to the logos app?

Brother Odin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/680149#Comment_680149

Here is my vote for allowing us to change the font in the app. Olive tree does a great job with this and IOS offers a large number of great fonts. I used my ipad mostly for reading and jumping back to Logos looks much poorer compared to other apps.

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/700042#Comment_700042

Please see here for instructions on posting suggestions at UserVoice.

Helen Sampson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424948#Comment_424948

I read your response on how to change font size by using the Aa icon/symbol, but are you talking about while using Olive Bible on an iPad? If so, I don't see the symbol.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/858669#Comment_858669

but are you talking about while using Olive Bible on an iPad?

Welcome but you are on the wrong forums ... this is Faithlife/Logos not Olive Tree ...