NEW: Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos 6
We're happy to announce that the all new Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos 6 is now on pre-pub.
Whether you want to learn Greek and Hebrew for the first time or are simply looking for a refresher, Michael Heiser and Johnny Cisneros are excellent guides. With this tools-based approach, you’ll learn the terminology, tools, and methods needed to interpret words and passages of Scripture—without memorization.
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could we see more videos to see what the course is like before pre-order it?
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What's the upgrade price for those who owned the BROKEN previous version?
When I bought the previous version 2 years ago, the teaching materials CANNOT BE FOLLOWED.
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Thank you Celeste - its great to see this new product arriving at prepublication. If you are able to advise whether a discount on the prepublication price would be available for those who purchased the earlier DVD based product that would be appreciated.
I'm sure there are people like myself who will still see the prepublication price as very expensive. Some foreign residents will also have to pay more because of currency exchange rates. As I purchase from Australia the cost increases by around 30 per cent for that reason. A further discount could make purchasing the product more attractive to people who would like to improve their use of Hebrew and Greek in Logos 6 by updating what they currently possess. Keep well Paul
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I am an owner of the prior DVD's as well. I would like to know whether I should order this now as a pre-pub or hold off and get it as an discounted update to my current set. Thanks
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You should wait until after the Pre-Pub ships. Your upgrade price will be cheaper according to Celeste (in the comments on the resource page.)
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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[:O] I hardly recognize myself!
But yes, if you own the previous version, you will want to wait for the product to go live before placing your order.
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Celeste Chute said:
I hardly recognize myself! But yes, if you own the previous version, you will want to wait for the product to go live before placing your order.
Just to be sure I'm clear on what going "Live" means- Does it mean that I should wait until after the product is shipped and no longer on pre-pub to see what the price will be? Thanks.
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Edited: I'm posting in my sleep folks. Good night.
Gerard Shanley said:Just to be sure I'm clear on what going "Live" means- Does it mean that I should wait until after the product is shipped and no longer on pre-pub to see what the price will be? Thanks.
Yes, you understand correctly. But we need Celeste or another Faithlife employee to explain what constitutes a previous ownership.
1) Someone who purchased the initial, flawed CDs off someone else who was dumping them.
2) Someone who owns the corrected videos that were downloaded after the initial CDs
You can be assured the upgrade price for previous owners will be cheaper than the Pre-Pub price. We just don't know how much cheaper.
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Are these videos primarily of value to people without knowledge of the languages, or is their instruction in the software alone worth the price?
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Any update on what the upgrade price is going to be?
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Super.Tramp said:
But we need Celeste or another Faithlife employee to explain what constitutes a previous ownership.
1) Someone who purchased the initial, flawed CDs off someone else who was dumping them.
2) Someone who owns the corrected videos that were downloaded after the initial CDs
Once the Mobile Ed bundle is released, we will be contacting the customers who purchased the original product with their special upgrade price. If you purchased the original product from somewhere other than Logos, you'll be able to call in after it's live to receive your discount. You can also email me to have your name added to the 'upgrade list'.
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Jesse Blevins said:
Any update on what the upgrade price is going to be?
Since their still not telling us, then expect it to be more than we like. I personally have no plans to update unless it's very reasonable. I still have a bad taste in my mouth because I bought them just before Logos 6 came out. I was not able to make use of them for the first few months due to time constraints. Then I started through them and a few weeks later 6 beta came out and I was invited to view it for review in CCMag. In other words I never really got any use out of them.
If it's more than 10% of the original price, I'll be unhappy. Plus, this will likley be very version specific like the 1st one and so once 7 comes out they'll be asking us for more money.
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I'm pretty optimistic that the price will be right for those who purchased the original DVDs. Logos seems to come through for their customers.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
Since their still not telling us, then expect it to be more than we like.
Funny, what I would infer from their "not telling us" is that it is a complex formula based partially on when you bought them. With different prices for different users, they can't announce "a price" because its a "well it depends" price.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
If it's more than 10% of the original price, I'll be unhappy.
I very much doubt it will be that low. According to the product descriptions, the new resource has 24 hours of instruction, compared to 15 hours of the previous one. As it's $300 on pre-pub, I expect the upgrade price to be somewhere between $200-$250 — though perhaps people like you who bought very recently might be given a lower price.
This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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Didn't it come out under Logos 4? If I recall correctly, there has been a call for Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew since Logos 5 came out. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
Since their still not telling us, then expect it to be more than we like.
I expect only that the price for the upgrade, to be announced once the product is released, will be lower than the pre-pub and that if I decide to purchase the upgrade I will have 30 days within which to return it for a full refund.
MJ. Smith said:Funny, what I would infer from their "not telling us" is that it is a complex formula based partially on when you bought them. With different prices for different users, they can't announce "a price" because its a "well it depends" price.
MJ I have always tracked with your thinking as disclosed in the Community Forums but not this time. I can see from Mark's post that he is tracking with you on this. To me it seems unreasonable to base the upgrade price on purchase date. I'll consider it further and we'll all see in the end.
I do anticipate the release though there are more pressing concerns.
"The Christian mind is the prerequisite of Christian thinking. And Christian thinking is the prerequisite of Christian action." - Harry Blamires, 1963
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JAL said:
MJ I have always tracked with your thinking as disclosed in the Community Forums but not this time. I can see from Mark's post that he is tracking with you on this. To me it seems unreasonable to base the upgrade price on purchase date. I'll consider it further and we'll all see in the end.
Faithlife often makes special provisions for people who purchase 30 days (or up to 90 days) prior to a new release so that people don't hold off purchasing based on rumors of a new version just "around the corner".
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Faithlife often makes special provisions for people who purchase 30 days (or up to 90 days) prior to a new release so that people don't hold off purchasing based on rumors of a new version just "around the corner".
This is a reasonable practice with which I am familiar. I also think that the Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew product should be treated as any other.
It seems to me that anyone recently purchasing the product knew, or soon discovered, that the examples keyed to Andersen-Forbes morphology are an impediment to following the Hebrew component. I am confident Faithlife addressed any complaints reasonably.
Too bad an update couldn't be as simple as just providing replacement for the affected content. (To be clear I am explicitly stating that producing the replacement would not be trivial.)
With regard to the all new Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos 6, apart from redressing the devaluation caused by the change of morphology, Mark provided reason to think there will be new content imparting additional value."The Christian mind is the prerequisite of Christian thinking. And Christian thinking is the prerequisite of Christian action." - Harry Blamires, 1963
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
I still have a bad taste in my mouth ...
Kevin, did you know that the Hebrew component was broken when you purchased? Did you ever ask for a refund?
"The Christian mind is the prerequisite of Christian thinking. And Christian thinking is the prerequisite of Christian action." - Harry Blamires, 1963
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Any word as to when this product will be available?
Thank you
Paul
Paul
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As of today, any word yet?
Paul
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Thanks for your interest in the Learn to Use Mobile Ed course, Paul. The latest update is that we're currently recording some of the screencasts. We hope to have this course available soon.
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Any update?
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We are nearly done with Learn to Use Hebrew, but Learn to Use Greek is still being recorded. We anticipate wrapping up its recording soon. We don't have a specific ship yet because we still have to complete all the post-production work.
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update please
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Larry West said:
update please
Both courses have been recorded, and we're now doing the post-production work (adding on screen text, proofreading transcripts, writing quizzes, finalizing screencasts, etc.). It looks like we'll be able to release them in November.
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We've set the ship date for these courses now. They'll be available November 19: https://www.logos.com/product/49819/mobile-ed-learn-to-use-biblical-greek-and-hebrew-with-logos-6.
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