4.0b Beta 2 (4.02.3.5022) available

 The BWS crash on the lemma search of δουλος still exists in 4.0b beta 2.

I just noticed (I think it's new in Beta 2) that the Close All icon has changed from this:

to this:

I liked the old one better. Why the change? Is there a time coming soon when we'll be able to customize all our icons on the shortcut bar?

Bohuslav Wojnar said:

Rosie Perera said:

I liked the old one better. Why the change? Is there a time coming soon when we'll be able to customize all our icons on the shortcut bar?

Rosie, the icon was not specific for the close all command. It was just generic icon for any command. It might be they started to designate a specific icons to some commands and that's the change you see.

EDIT: no, I just noticed it is not a specific icon. It is just a new generic icon for all commands.

I still would love to be able to choose from an icon libary (to which I can add my own custom icons) for icons on the shortcut menu. I cannot distinguish between the different commands or Guides or bookmarks by looking at the icons currently. I know you can hover your mouse over them to see more detail in a popup bubble (and it seems they've now added preview windows for when you hover over layout shortcuts), but it would be really nice not to have to go hovering over a dozen icons to find the one I want. It's not really a "Shortcut" bar, is it, if I have to examine everything to pick what I want. Should be an almost mindless choice. Visual distinction (and/or editable textual labels) is a must.

Bohuslav Wojnar said:

Rosie, I fully agree with you in that matter. They have a different icons but for the type of icon. (I have different one for the layouts, different ones for the highlighting window etc.) Not urgent need but it would help.

I agree it's not urgent. I'd much rather see them finish putting in the 3.0 functionality than spend time on pretty enhancements like this. But someday...

Thomas Black said:

Rosie Perera said:

I agree it's not urgent. I'd much rather see them finish putting in the 3.0 functionality than spend time on pretty enhancements like this. But someday...

That was 3.0 functionality.    So I don't mind if they spend time putting it in. 

On the upside, the new global command icon at least looks like a generic command prompt, and hence visually says "command" to my brain.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense to people who remember the old DOS prompt or use command line in Windows. Thus I figured out what they meant by it. But it's still ugly because it's too geeky and is not at all colorful. :-(   [Not that geekiness means ugly necessarily: check out Chart Wars (Alex Lundry) – the political power of data visualization (video recommended by Bob Pritchett)]

It seems that we have lost the ability to nest folders in "Favorites" or even the ability to add items such as clippings and notes to a folder.

Rosie Perera said:

CoramDeo said:

It seems that we have lost the ability to nest folders in "Favorites" or even the ability to add items such as clippings and notes to a folder.

Yikes! I confirmed that this is broken for me too, in 4.0b Beta 2. My nested folders that I already had are intact, but I can't create any new ones.

Yep, folders are broken in favorites.  I think the favorites window needs work anyway:  I should be able to create a link in a folder without having to drag it there after the fact.

I started comparing my imported notes with the original files and found some serious problems.  Some notes came in in the wrong order.  Others aren't there at all.  Also in the scroll bar won't go all the way down to the bottom of it's range.  No errors were reported during the import.

Rosie Perera said:

I just noticed (I think it's new in Beta 2) that the Close All icon has changed from this:

to this:

I liked the old one better. Why the change? Is there a time coming soon when we'll be able to customize all our icons on the shortcut bar?

This was the last bitmap icon that carried over from early in development. If you were in the private beta for 4.0 you may remember a wrench icon floating around before I was able to replace it. This is another one like the wrench.

This is just a replacement for the default command icon, more specific command icons should come in a future release, but I don't know when.

I don't know if it is a bug or limited functionality but when I click on hits from "My Content" after a search, it simply opens the file (eg, a note file) but does not display the entry where the hit is found. For instance, I was looking for a note I had made on the colour white in my Bible notes. Indeed Bible Notes showed under the My Content results, but the click led me to my entry on Genesis 1:1. I had to CTRL-F "White" in order to find the actual entry (on Leviticus 14:4). What happened to the red circle?

Lynden Williams said:

Bradley Grainger said:

4.0b Beta 2 (v4.02.3.5022) is now available for testing; enter "update now" to begin downloading it.

Opened up the beta and it auto updated. Did not need to enter anything in the update box.

 

Same here launched L4 and it immediately auto updated, performance seems impressive considering I'm running it in vmware 6.x on top of windows 7 64bit. Didn't want to run it on the host OS along with my 4.0a, on that note I also run Libronix 3.0 in another VM, on top of the host that my 4.0a is installed on. Allows for a lot ov versatility.

EbbeAndréasson said:

I imported "all" and it all worked fine but then all my notes was checked and visible in every resource. I have to uncheck notefile for notefile in every resource to get rid of it. I realise this will take a lot of time. Then I deleted all imported notes.

I want to import my notes "unchecked". Then I can choose if I want it to be visible in my resources. In v3 if I uncheck a note it "disapears" in every resource. I think thats an better way of working.

Maybe there should be an option to choose if check/uncheck should work in all resources or just in the one checking in but I don't know.

I believe if you right click on the specific visual filter you can tell Logos to not show it in any resource.

There seems to be a bug with searches by "mytag:" When I use one of these the search comes up with no result. I searched my resources on Jesus for "Jesus" and it came up with no result. I tried another collection and searched for "God" with the same result. I rebuilt the index just in case but it has not solved the problem.

Have others experienced this problem in 4.0b b2?

Dewayne Davis said:

Bradley Grainger said:

Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results

This
was very helpful. I wanted to make this suggestion. But I never took
the time. My layout has a Word by Word open all the time and this will
greatly improve its effectiveness. One suggestion I have thought about
is that it follow according to the mouse click suggestion, and not the
cursor location? If I click a few verses down in the text, the input
box for the text immediately updates. However, the input for the PG
containing the WbW does not change. I will explain. If I have ESV at
verse 1, then click at verse 7, the input box updates. At this point it
would be nice to have the PG that is linked update as well. If at this
point I select the arrow for next verse, the ESV moves to verse 8 and
the PG updates. If the input box gained focus when I mouse click, I
think I could possibly hit enter and force the PG to adjust. The work
around at this point seems to be to click one verse short of what I
want to move to and then click next verse. Interestingly, there was one
single time that I clicked on a spot a few verses down and the PG
jumped to it. I don't know what circumstances allowed it to happen. But
it did it. Strange...

I have continued to work with this and found the following:

Right clicking somewhere in a verse most of the time causes the PG to update.

Moving back from a search window after doing a search causes the PG to update to where you clicked.

Basically anything that takes the focus allows the PG to automatically refresh to whatever you select when you return to the text.

Hitting Tab and Enter will cause the PG to update.

And the winning solution was so simple it is ridiculous. Double clicking on the verse number causes the PG to update. All I can say is duh! I should have tried that first.

Kevin Becker said:

EbbeAndréasson said:

I imported "all" and it all worked fine but then all my notes was checked and visible in every resource. I have to uncheck notefile for notefile in every resource to get rid of it. I realise this will take a lot of time. Then I deleted all imported notes.

I want to import my notes "unchecked". Then I can choose if I want it to be visible in my resources. In v3 if I uncheck a note it "disapears" in every resource. I think thats an better way of working.

Maybe there should be an option to choose if check/uncheck should work in all resources or just in the one checking in but I don't know.

I believe if you right click on the specific visual filter you can tell Logos to not show it in any resource

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If I left-click on the cymbol with three cirkels (forget the name for it) I get a droplist with every applicable option in that resource. It could be to show pagenumbers, notefiles, bible readings, link to open panels... depending on type of resource. When importing my notefiles all of them show up in every bible and commentary. If I uncheck something in the drop down list it disappears only in that resource. I have to repeat this action in every resource and there is  lot of them.

Where do you mean I can right click on a specific visual filter? Please explain it to me or post a Screen dump.

Dewayne Davis said:

Double clicking on the verse number causes the PG to update.

What would be cool would be for double clicking a verse to cause the PG to open or move to that verse without using the linking. Linking slows down scrolling through the text considerably.

josh s blake said:

L4b beta 2 keeps crashing on me, especially when I just do a passage search from the home page.  Not sure what this is about...thought you should know.  I know it's beta and has problems, just thought you'd like to know this one.  have windows 7 ult. and 4 gig ram and 1.87 duel processor on a laptop.  thanks.

just saw the bible word study can cause crashes...maybe that's it...sorry to waste your time.

Francis said:

Another bug I am experiencing is that Logos 4.0b beta 2 stubbornly opens in a window that is way up on  my screen (in fact only a [lower] part of the window is visible). I have to use Windows + arrows to change the window size back to something I can use.

I think it started to do that after I floated several windows in a previous session. Now, even when there are no window afloat, the starting window positioning is messed up.

I've had this problem intermittently from 4.0; it was blamed on Windows, whether or not this is accurate, I don't know.

Dewayne Davis said:

Bradley Grainger said:

Added Parallel Resource drop-down menu in resource toolbar

Does this not include things like the EDNT and BDAG? I typically refer to these two and the WSDNT as my go to spots. I would love to be able to use the association to move from one to the other. For now I just have them promoted and showing up in the WbW in the PG.

EDNT and BDAG wouldn't work as parallel resources, because they are not addresss by Scripture reference like Bibles and commentaries are. If you're viewing a particular passage in Scripture and you click the Parallel Resources drop-down menu, you see all other resources that have an entry for the particular verse you are on (Bibles and commentaries). So if you're in the NT, for example, it wouldn't show BHS because that is an OT only Bible resource. I don't see how you'd want EDNT and BDAG to link in here. They are for looking up specific words. If you want to see all the places in which either one of them (or other similar resources) mention the verse you're looking at, then Parallel Resources isn't the way to go. That's what Passage Guides are for. Or use the Cited By tool.

Support for Headwords is planned: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/8940/71198.aspx#71198