NEW: Mobile Ed Subscription
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Liz Roland said:
If any courses are leaving the plan at that time, that information (and discount for any courses leaving the subscription plan) will be shared in a email to subscribers.
Ah ok, I think this confirms my hypothesis. Thanks for the clarification, Liz!
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Liz, I appreciate all of your hard work on this new program, it has a lot of potential! It would be a no-brainer I think for tons of Logos faithful if we could just pick our own courses every month (within the 30-hour limit of course). If there's only 1-3 new courses added per month, it makes it hard to consider it a true subscription, but more on an on-demand (and on occasion) model. I agree with an earlier poster that half of the courses do not apply to my needs and/or we already own them. I think that this is probably going to be true of many/most Logos users, regardless of that month's list of courses. You have lots of really interesting looking courses that I would love to go through, why not just make them all available by choice every month and impose the 30-hour and 3 month limit? I'd sign up today if that were the case! (I know it's not your call, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions)
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Matthew said:
Liz, I appreciate all of your hard work on this new program, it has a lot of potential! It would be a no-brainer I think for tons of Logos faithful if we could just pick our own courses every month (within the 30-hour limit of course). If there's only 1-3 new courses added per month, it makes it hard to consider it a true subscription, but more on an on-demand (and on occasion) model. I agree with an earlier poster that half of the courses do not apply to my needs and/or we already own them. I think that this is probably going to be true of many/most Logos users, regardless of that month's list of courses. You have lots of really interesting looking courses that I would love to go through, why not just make them all available by choice every month and impose the 30-hour and 3 month limit? I'd sign up today if that were the case! (I know it's not your call, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions)
I was thinking something very similar - perhaps allow something like "4 credits" against each months' subscription and have each course allocated a certain number of "credits". Then let people choose whichever courses they like up to the number of credits. The 30 hour limit that Matthew suggested sounds perhaps even better in that each course probably already has the video time already allocated to it. Bit more programming to set up a way to audit how much the subscribers use. Although probably in practise I would never have enough time to watch more than 30 hours a month anyway! But at the moment the preselected set of course options each month, and the low change rate each month, seems too restricted for my needs.
(The subscription on my account is still saying it doesn't expire for 6 months even though I've just paid one month - next renewal date is showing as in September so perhaps I have 6 months left to try it! [:)] )
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I agree completely with Matthew that the choice of courses should be under the users control. My reason is that if I am learning in order to achieve a certificate in one field, I want to be able to concentrate on that field. Or if I am wanting to build on an earlier course, with another course, I do not want to have to wait until FL makes it available. Or what if I have missed an earlier course I don't want to begin in the middle of a study. Or wait for the course to be offered again, whenever that might be. I think this is a great idea, but the lack of options on courses and my choosing the course of my study holds me back from signing up.
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Is there any plan to offer academic Discount to the Subscription?
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Robert Peters said:
Is there any plan to offer academic Discount to the Subscription?
There are no plans for academic pricing/academic discounts on the Mobile Ed Subscription.
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Liz, does it matter what day of a month you order the subscription? Is it three months from the first of the month or from the date you purchase? Thanks!!!!
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Matthew said:
Liz, does it matter what day of a month you order the subscription? Is it three months from the first of the month or from the date you purchase? Thanks!!!!
The three months starts from the first of the month (not from the date you purchased).
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Thanks Liz!
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I totally agree. There is only one course that interests me offered now and I have finished it. Therefore with my monthly renew date coming up I plan to cancel til something interests me again. In originally signing up I did not realize the course offerings were so limited with no control by us. I assume it has to do with income generation for FL, which is reasonable, but can't we have some choice; a happy medium?Lonnie Spencer said:I agree completely with Matthew that the choice of courses should be under the users control. My reason is that if I am learning in order to achieve a certificate in one field, I want to be able to concentrate on that field. Or if I am wanting to build on an earlier course, with another course, I do not want to have to wait until FL makes it available. Or what if I have missed an earlier course I don't want to begin in the middle of a study. Or wait for the course to be offered again, whenever that might be. I think this is a great idea, but the lack of options on courses and my choosing the course of my study holds me back from signing up.
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Next month's courses look more interesting. I decided to renew my subscription for this month:
"On May 1, the following courses will be added to Mobile Ed Subscription: Mobile Ed: ED101 Introducing Discipleship by Greg Ogden, Mobile Ed: NT101 Introducing New Testament: Its Structure and Story by Lynn H. Cohick, and Mobile Ed: NT306 The Dead Sea Scrolls and the New Testament by Craig A. Evans."
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Hi Liz,
I noticed some courses are expiring from the mobile ed subscription next month and was wondering if those were going to be offered for purchase with a discount as mentioned earlier in this forum thread?
"Do I own the Mobile Ed Subscription courses?
No. Courses are available for a limited time. Courses will be available to purchase at a discount once they expire from the subscription plan."
Thanks
Jim
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CM100, MI102, NT211, and PC201 are being removed temporarily from the Mobile Ed Subscription. These courses will return to the Mobile Ed Subscription soon.
Once any course expires from the Mobile Ed Subscription, the course will be available to purchase at a discount. [:)]
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Ah OK I see.
Jim
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Is there any rhyme or reason to what's offered? If not, let me suggest one. It would make a lot of sense to offer these as a "semester" style of offering with a basic set of courses always available like intro to bible/NT/OT/Theology/History etc. Then offer them for a promised semester (Jan-April) and then a summer semester of May to August and then Sept to December. That way over a 3 to 4 year period you'd have access to the equivalent of a seminary offering. That way users would know, I've got these 10 courses till April or till August or till December.
I could also see a smaller subscription, like a one course at a time for $4.99 or something. Then let me subscribe to just that one course till I'm done with it and then sing up for a new one.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
Is there any rhyme or reason to what's offered? If not, let me suggest one. It would make a lot of sense to offer these as a "semester" style of offering with a basic set of courses always available like intro to bible/NT/OT/Theology/History etc. Then offer them for a promised semester (Jan-April) and then a summer semester of May to August and then Sept to December. That way over a 3 to 4 year period you'd have access to the equivalent of a seminary offering. That way users would know, I've got these 10 courses till April or till August or till December.
I could also see a smaller subscription, like a one course at a time for $4.99 or something. Then let me subscribe to just that one course till I'm done with it and then sing up for a new one.
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I'd love that.
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Liz Roland,
May we request CM151 Preparing and Delivering Christ-Centered Sermons.. by Bryan Chapell to be included in July subscription?
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mike said:
Liz Roland,
May we request CM151 Preparing and Delivering Christ-Centered Sermons.. by Bryan Chapell to be included in July subscription?
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Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
I could also see a smaller subscription, like a one course at a time for $4.99 or something. Then let me subscribe to just that one course till I'm done with it and then sing up for a new one.
I like this idea. I'm not really interested in owning these courses. These courses are well made (and I can see why they are priced high), but I just don't see the value when it comes to the information provided. These are not equivalent to a college course.
Example: I am working my way through the Sexual Ethics course and it is basically a video version of Instone-Brewer's book on Divorce and Remarriage which can be had for less than 30 dollars. In fact, much of the supplemental reading is from his book.
I'm still on the fence about Mobile Ed, but this subscription thing might change my mind if done properly.
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Josh said:
I just don't see the value when it comes to the information provided. These are not equivalent to a college course.
Example: I am working my way through the Sexual Ethics course and it is basically a video version of Instone-Brewer's book on Divorce and Remarriage which can be had for less than 30 dollars. In fact, much of the supplemental reading is from his book.
In fairness to Dr. Instone-Brewer, the lectures in many authentic post-secondary courses are essentially textbooks in lecture format, whether or not the textbook has been assigned to the course (or even been written). This course being a video version of a textbook is not in itself sufficient to serve as evidence that Mobile Ed courses are sub-college ones.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
In fairness to Dr. Instone-Brewer, the lectures in many authentic post-secondary courses are essentially textbooks in lecture format, whether or not the textbook has been assigned to the course (or even been written). This course being a video version of a textbook is not in itself sufficient to serve as evidence that Mobile Ed courses are sub-college ones.
Perhaps, but I feel like I could have gotten the same information from reading his book - which is substantially cheaper than the video course.
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Wow with a seminary credit hour costing around $400-550 I feel I am getting a bargain! I have thoroughly enjoyed & greatly benefited from the 5 Mobile Ed courses I have done so far.
Thanks FL for providing this opportunity to sit under top scholars in an engaging, effective and coordinated way with my library.
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mike said:
Liz Roland,
May we request CM151 Preparing and Delivering Christ-Centered Sermons.. by Bryan Chapell to be included in July subscription?
If you're interested in the lecture material now while you wait, this is one of his courses available on iTunes U. I "took" the course several years ago and profited tremendously. I don't say this to take away from Logos' version--I'm sure having it redone with video is higher quality (slightly different product), but if you want/need something now, iTunes might be the way to go.
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Josh said:
Perhaps, but I feel like I could have gotten the same information from reading his book - which is substantially cheaper than the video course.
That's quite possible. And, mutatis mutandis, also true of many authentic post-secondary courses.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Hi, I just suscribed and I was wondering about wich courses are staying for next month .
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A note gets added to the main mobile ed page Mobile Ed Subscription around the 14th of the month to say which courses are being added and which are being removed. There is a note just gone up for July -
"On July 1, the following courses will be added to Mobile Ed Subscription: Mobile Ed: BI101 Introducing Biblical Interpretation: Contexts and Resources by Michael Heiser, and Mobile Ed: PD101 Our Identity in Christ by Elyse Fitzpatrick.
Mobile Ed: BI181 Introducing Bible Translations will be removed from the subscription, but will return soon."
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Tan you for the information Jim.
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Does anyone think this is worth it? In their experience
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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Keith Pang said:
Does anyone think this is worth it? In their experience
Worth it? Totally!
Just by watching 4-5 Mobile Ed classes, you'll get you your money back. And M.Ed can have 30+ classes in a year for $500.
The tricks are:
1. You gotta make time to really watch them.
2. Watch only the segments that are important for you. (some segments are just time-waster if you have some background)
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I only have a few, but the quality is top notch as well as the scholars doing the teaching.
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Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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