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- Reformed Portfolio ($1,500, discount rate is 87%)
- Anglican Silver ($700, discount rate is 92%)
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I bought these in stages.
Starter Methodist w/starter features set 20.27
Verbum Starter features 9.50
Methodist Bronze 20.30
Total 50.07
This was the cheapest way for me to get my toes wet without being able to see the compare packages. I did compare all the packages as best I could and chose the cheapest package. I actually saved about $2 buying the Methodist Starter with the starter feature set and then buying the Methodist Bronze without the feature set.
I had to compare all the variants but ended up finding SDA Plat was best for me. Got ICC and a few others I had on my to get list so made the price ($730 for me) feel cheaper. This also came with the Full Feature Set for L7. I so like new version better so far. Haven't tried the Sermon Editor but will...
The range of base packages / libraries is bewildering (in a good way!) - and I'd love to hear what others have bought, and what the "sweet spots" are in the new range. Thanks.
So far, I've purchased Reformed Portfolio, Baptist Platinum and the Full Feature Set. I'm still assessing some of the other options.
As the compare page isn't working yet, my strategy was to begin with the Starter edition, and ask myself if I was willing to pay $50 (or whatever my dynamic pricing was) for the resources in that package. If I wasn't, I'd ask the same question of the next package up and so on. Once I decided that a package was worth having, I kept that open in a window, and then compare the next one up with that package, and ask whether the price difference between the two packages is worth the extra money.
I bought Reformed Portfolio mostly for Jonathan Edwards' works (my dynamic pricing price was about a third of the price of that one bundle), but I also will appreciate The Bible Knowledge Background Commentary, CM328 Preaching the Psalms and I'm intrigued by the Lexham Geographic Commentary on the Gospels. I could have got all these in Reformed Diamond, but Portfolio was only a fraction more expensive, so that seemed worthwhile.
Baptist Platinum is only $150 for me. I'm most interested in Select Works of William Lane Craig (4 vols.), The Baptism of Disciples Alone, Christianity Today Magazine and the stuff from Founders' Press.
I'll also be getting Methodist and Wesleyan Bronze. It's only $8.64 for me, and includes Eerdmans Ben Witherington Biblical Theology Collection (6 vols.) which is worth $74. Silver, looked tempting for all the commentaries that will be added later, but it turned out they were just Whedon's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments, which is languishing in CP.
I'll also be buying one of the packages with The Old Testament Library Series (7 vols.) and The New Testament Library Series (15 vols.) in it, but I haven't yet decided which that will be — probably either Diamond or Methodist & Wesleyan Platinum, which are similarly priced for me.
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why did you purchase the Full Feature Set when it is included in base packages? Or do you have to pay for that separately?
With L7, it's possible to purchase the resources and the Feature Set separately if you are upgrading from an earlier version.
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With L7, it's possible to purchase the resources and the Feature Set separately if you are upgrading from an earlier version.
Is it possible to just purchase the "Feature Set" without buying a Base Package? I am less willing to spend money on a Base Package without knowing what I am getting. I could buy the "Feature Set" and then (using Dynamic Pricing) get a Base Package once the comparisons are up and running.
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why did you purchase the Full Feature Set when it is included in base packages? Or do you have to pay for that separately?With L7, it's possible to purchase the resources and the Feature Set separately if you are upgrading from an earlier version.
Mark,
I understand that it's possible to purchase resources (books) and the feature set as separate items, but if I look at Reformed Portfolio, I have a dynamic price of $401. Then it tells me what resources I would get and what feature set I would get.
It seems as if you bought the Reformed Portfolio as one item and then the Full Feature set. Are there additional items in the full feature set not included in the Reformed Portfolio feature set items.
I'll also be buying one of the packages with The Old Testament Library Series (7 vols.) and The New Testament Library Series (15 vols.) in it, but I haven't yet decided which that will be — probably either Diamond or Methodist & Wesleyan Platinum, which are similarly priced for me.
I've plumped for Diamond. Not only does it have these commentaries, but it also has The New Daily Study Bible: New Testament, and SCM's Studies in Biblical Theology Series.
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I'm not finding the packages quite as compelling as I did for L6, but then the urgency is also not there because I already have 7 through Logos Now. I'm going to take my time, waiting for the site to settle, and thoroughly go through my options before ordering anything
If I had more money available right now there are several higher packages that look great, but at the lower end where I dwell, the Methodist Bronze is looking the most attractive. For me it's only $10 more than the Starter, and for that I get one additional commentary set (and not a PD one either). Also, it has this:
I'll also be getting Methodist and Wesleyan Bronze. It's only $8.64 for me, and includes Eerdmans Ben Witherington Biblical Theology Collection (6 vols.) which is worth $74. Silver, looked tempting for all the commentaries that will be added later, but it turned out they were just Whedon's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments, which is languishing in CP.
I did end up with Methodist Bronze. Mostly I gained a few different commentaries that diversify my collection quite a bit, also most of John Wesley's works.
L6 did good by me, so really the only thing I was looking for this time was the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary. The packages containing that (Gold & higher) were beyond my reach, but after adding Methodist Bronze to my cart, the screen came up with that as an add-on with $70 off if purchased at the the same time as a library. So, I got the resource I really wanted plus a decent small library for the end price I wanted of under $300.
I mention this as I don't recall the add-on screen mentioned in this thread. To see it, just stick a package in your cart and you'll be presented with your options.
The range of base packages / libraries is bewildering (in a good way!) - and I'd love to hear what others have bought, and what the "sweet spots" are in the new range. Thanks.
So far, I've purchased Reformed Portfolio, Baptist Platinum and the Full Feature Set. I'm still assessing some of the other options.
As the compare page isn't working yet, my strategy was to begin with the Starter edition, and ask myself if I was willing to pay $50 (or whatever my dynamic pricing was) for the resources in that package. If I wasn't, I'd ask the same question of the next package up and so on. Once I decided that a package was worth having, I kept that open in a window, and then compare the next one up with that package, and ask whether the price difference between the two packages is worth the extra money.
I bought Reformed Portfolio mostly for Jonathan Edwards' works (my dynamic pricing price was about a third of the price of that one bundle), but I also will appreciate The Bible Knowledge Background Commentary, CM328 Preaching the Psalms and I'm intrigued by the Lexham Geographic Commentary on the Gospels. I could have got all these in Reformed Diamond, but Portfolio was only a fraction more expensive, so that seemed worthwhile.
Baptist Platinum is only $150 for me. I'm most interested in Select Works of William Lane Craig (4 vols.), The Baptism of Disciples Alone, Christianity Today Magazine and the stuff from Founders' Press.
I'll also be getting Methodist and Wesleyan Bronze. It's only $8.64 for me, and includes Eerdmans Ben Witherington Biblical Theology Collection (6 vols.) which is worth $74. Silver, looked tempting for all the commentaries that will be added later, but it turned out they were just Whedon's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments, which is languishing in CP.
I'll also be buying one of the packages with The Old Testament Library Series (7 vols.) and The New Testament Library Series (15 vols.) in it, but I haven't yet decided which that will be — probably either Diamond or Methodist & Wesleyan Platinum, which are similarly priced for me.
I recall Mark giving advice if buying several base packages on how to do it at the lowest cost. Was the strategy to buy one at a time (in order for dynamic pricing to kick in)? If so, does it matter which order? Should one start with the most expensive first? Or the one with the largest discount?
The range of base packages / libraries is bewildering (in a good way!) - and I'd love to hear what others have bought, and what the "sweet spots" are in the new range. Thanks.
So far, I've purchased Reformed Portfolio, Baptist Platinum and the Full Feature Set. I'm still assessing some of the other options.
As the compare page isn't working yet, my strategy was to begin with the Starter edition, and ask myself if I was willing to pay $50 (or whatever my dynamic pricing was) for the resources in that package. If I wasn't, I'd ask the same question of the next package up and so on. Once I decided that a package was worth having, I kept that open in a window, and then compare the next one up with that package, and ask whether the price difference between the two packages is worth the extra money.
I bought Reformed Portfolio mostly for Jonathan Edwards' works (my dynamic pricing price was about a third of the price of that one bundle), but I also will appreciate The Bible Knowledge Background Commentary, CM328 Preaching the Psalms and I'm intrigued by the Lexham Geographic Commentary on the Gospels. I could have got all these in Reformed Diamond, but Portfolio was only a fraction more expensive, so that seemed worthwhile.
Baptist Platinum is only $150 for me. I'm most interested in Select Works of William Lane Craig (4 vols.), The Baptism of Disciples Alone, Christianity Today Magazine and the stuff from Founders' Press.
I'll also be getting Methodist and Wesleyan Bronze. It's only $8.64 for me, and includes Eerdmans Ben Witherington Biblical Theology Collection (6 vols.) which is worth $74. Silver, looked tempting for all the commentaries that will be added later, but it turned out they were just Whedon's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments, which is languishing in CP.
I'll also be buying one of the packages with The Old Testament Library Series (7 vols.) and The New Testament Library Series (15 vols.) in it, but I haven't yet decided which that will be — probably either Diamond or Methodist & Wesleyan Platinum, which are similarly priced for me.
I recall Mark giving advice if buying several base packages on how to do it at the lowest cost. Was the strategy to buy one at a time (in order for dynamic pricing to kick in)? If so, does it matter which order? Should one start with the most expensive first? Or the one with the largest discount?
The largest discount, but not based on dynamic pricing. Log out and do price as package divided by sold separately. The lowest decimal should be purchased first, then ascending. The most expensive is not always the highest discount, frustratingly. That way you get as many resources as possible at the lowest price.
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Justin or Mark,
By any chance could you link to the original explanation for how this works? Any examples so I could understand it a bit better?
Interestingly, I purchased a Starter Package to see how it effected prices on larger libraries and the price of my target library actually went up!
By any chance could you link to the original explanation for how this works? Any examples so I could understand it a bit better?
I'll give you another example, this time with made up packages to make the maths easy.
Let's imagine we're interested in the following:
Let's imagine there's an overlap between the packages that has a retail price of $1,000. In Reformed Portfolio, that overlap is valued at $130, whilst in Anglican Silver that overlap is only valued at $80 (87% and 92% discounts on $1,000).
If I was to buy Reformed Portfolio first, I would expect Anglican Silver to be $80 cheaper. I'd pay $1,500+$620 = $2,120.
If I was to buy Anglican Silver first, I would expect Reformed Portfolio to be $130 cheaper. I'd pay $700+$1,370 = $2,070.
In this fictional example, buying the package with the highest discount first has saved me $50. In reality the discount rates will probably be a little closer together, so you might not save as much — but you don't know that until you do the calculations.
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So far I have purchased the L7 full feature set. Now I'm debating if Fathers of the Church Series (127 vols.), is worth going for Standard Portfolio, or going for Diamond instead. Maybe I'll wait till I can do a comparison.
Just wondering if anyone else may have had this experience... I'm currently trying to decide between 4 upgrade options (Logos Standard and Reformed Gold and Platinum Versions) and had left Gold in my cart overnight.
This morning I open my laptop and see a yellow/gold banner at the top of my cart stating "We've added Logos 7 Platinum Library and removed Logos 7 Gold Library from your cart. Learn more." Learn more states something about doing this if I add a resource contained in a higher base package, so I'm not paying for it twice.... My concern - what if I only want the one resource I added and not the remainder of the next level - since Platinum is one of the options I'm considering, I'm not that frustrated with it. However seems to me to be a very shady practice to change my potential purchase without my knowledge or permission.... Has anyone seen this?
Another question I thought I knew the answer to, is if I'm buying either Gold or Platinum - why would the Full Feature Set be in the cart as well for an additional cost? I thought it was included with Bronze and above....
Also on the packages I notice that only small number of resources I own are listed as owned where the price is listed, the rest show a price, though it acknowledges I own the resources with the icon to the left of resource. Are we sure we are getting credited for the resources that still show a price and not the word owned?
Besides those technical based questions - any opinions on the Logos Standard Gold or Platinum vs The Reformed versions of the same?
I'm currently leaning Standard because of Anchor Yale Bible Dict and Hermeneia & Continental, but the excellent collections in the Reformed options look good as well.
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I maintained or upgraded my base packages for standard, Catholic, Anglican and Lutheran ...replacing many dead tree volumes of Classics of Western Spirituality was a major impetus.
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I'd love to hear what others have bought,
Standard Platinum—Hermeneia, Augustine, and New Barclay plus many other things that will probably be surprisingly helpful in the future. The final price was about half that of Hermeneia alone.
Personally I will go from Lutheran Silver to either Lutheran Silver or Gold - have not decided which for sure. The Lutheran packages look to be significantly better to me: Actually including important writings of Luther, as well as Brugenhagen, and important Pietist works.... Lutheran Gold is of particular interest because of Hermeneia. I have most of it already, but this is a good deal to top off my set.
Also, since I have old Anglican Bronze, adding new Anglican Bronze for 50 bucks or so is a no brainer, with the Classics of Western Spirituality volumes included.
In Logos 6 I got Reformed Starter for the Institutes and RSV RI. I will look to see what if anything would be valuable for me in the various libraries after I do the above two upgrades.
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I previously owned the L6 Extended-Crossgrade (and L4 Scholars Library before that!).
This time, I first took out a Logos Now subscription to qualify for further base package discounts, and then purchased Lutheran Bronze (which was $141 for me) mainly because it included Early Church Fathers which would have cost $229 alone.
I bought the Standard Portfolio in order to pick up some additional commentary sets and Barth's Dogmatics.
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I bought the Standard Portfolio in order to pick up some additional commentary sets and Barth's Dogmatics.
Very cool! I was leaning towards getting standard Portfolio too, or maybe L7 Platinum, or Diamond. Hmmm I really don't know [:S]
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I got Reformed Diamond so that I could pick up all the benefits of the package, but really just for Jonathan Edwards.
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I have yet to buy anything, though I have a pretty good idea of what I want. I received one of those special discount emails and I tried calling about it, twice, but had to hang up both times after I was on hold for more than 5 minutes. I then contacted one of the sales reps via email; I got an auto-reply which essentially said, "we're very busy, sit tight, we'll get to you" (my interpretation [:P]). I don't plan to call again; at international rates, I don't think the discount will be worthwhile after I get my phone bill!
If I don't hear from the sales rep by Friday, I may attempt another rep or I'll probably just move on and do my own thing on the site.
I'm struggling with what to buy. The Standard Gold is reasonably affordable for me, and has a couple of things that I'd really like to have. I'm especially interested in the Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture, the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary, and the Liddell and Scott Greek–English Lexicon. It would be nice to have the Tyndale Commentaries too.
Going up to Platinum picks up Hermeneia. The difference in cost is a big discount over the list price of that set, but it's still a good chunk of change. Hermeneia has a great reputation, but still. Platinum also adds some Septuagint resources, but I'm not sure my Greek skills are good enough to get full value out of them. Those look to me as the most significant things I'd gain going from Gold to Platinum; the rest seems to be miscellaneous bits and pieces. I have the sense that I'll regret it if I don't, but explaining to my spouse why I have to spend the extra money doesn't have much appeal.
Is Hermeneia worth having that conversation?
(Addendum)
Oh, and it also has the The Dictionary of Classical Hebrew - I'd forgotten that. That's tempting, but I somehow doubt my Hebrew skills would allow me to get full value out of it.
Hermenia is worth the value only if you're doing your M.Div or Th.M...
But if you have the money, go ahead.
I went from L6 Platinum standard to L7 Gold and then upgraded all the other denominational bp's to Bronze; except for Lutheran, SDA and Verbum as I didn't see any value to me in the content. L7 Platinum is good, but I'm not sure about Hermeneia yet. Too technical for sermon prep. I do like the fact that I got standar Gold cheap and it included the AYBD which was about the same price I spent upgrading to Gold L7. We'll see, L7 Platinum is now $364 but L7 Baptist Platinum includes McArthur and Pratt sermons for $400 both are great except for Hermeneia that is kind of holding me back.
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I can't get on to compare.....Can't wait
I have been trying to get on to look at the packages and stuff but all it is is one great big ad logos 7, logos 7- no info at all about new packages.
If you search the store in the usual way you will find the packages' product pages.
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