ESV Permanent Text Edition 2016

I really feel for the people who have been disturbed by some of the changes in the ESV. I checked Gen 3:16 also and it has indeed been "updated". Such changes over the years to modern Bibles have left me with little or no faith in them or the scholars that advocate for them. For many years I looked down on the King James Bible for its anachronisms, but for all that, today I trust it more than the collection of other Bibles I have in my Logos library. People may disagree with me and I mean no disrespect to anyone.  

All this shows the importance of prioritizing our Bibles in our Logos 7 to accord with how we approach the authority of our preferred Bibles - as all Bibles are not equal nor will they ever be.  Keep well Paul        

TY For Noticing the visual filters problem.. I rarely feel the need to use them and would not have noticed for months...  Let us hope that LOGOS will send an update for this also..  I have 4 ESV's including one audio version.. only one was updated.. the ESV audio Bible, the ESV Study Bible and the high definition ESV N.T. remained the same..

The old tried and true KJV is still the King. Pardon the pun.. corrections made to it (IMO) are badly misguided .. these so called updates have added nothing ever to the message which  my soul received by and through the 'OL KJV..  I do read others but always find them inferior in quality of content and style..  I reiterate: I do read other versions but not with the view in mind of correcting the KJV.. No argument has ever proven to me the necessity to have to correct the King's Bible... They all seem to me to be arguments of emotion rather than substance.. Usually the complaint is that it is too hard to understand or read because the language is so archaic.. rarely is it ever pointed out to anyone that a beginning Bible reader needs to study any version anyway, so why not the king's English also..  The KJV says so many things soo much more accurately..  The modern English language simply lacks the verbal tools to equal the accuracy inherent in the King's English.. Why is it that new Christians are discouraged from learning the beauty and accuracy of a language which has never been equaled nor surpassed in the worlds of literature anywhere in the world or in any other language.. Though I am not KJV Only, I am most definitely KJV First.. it has never let me down.. yet the so called scholars of other versions have always done so inevitably..

The old tried and true KJV is still the King. Pardon the pun.. corrections made to it (IMO) are badly misguided .. these so called updates have added nothing ever to the message which  my soul received by and through the 'OL KJV..  I do read others but always find them inferior in quality of content and style..  I reiterate: I do read other versions but not with the view in mind of correcting the KJV.. No argument has ever proven to me the necessity to have to correct the King's Bible... They all seem to me to be arguments of emotion rather than substance.. Usually the complaint is that it is too hard to understand or read because the language is so archaic.. rarely is it ever pointed out to anyone that a beginning Bible reader needs to study any version anyway, so why not the king's English also..  The KJV says so many things soo much more accurately..  The modern English language simply lacks the verbal tools to equal the accuracy inherent in the King's English.. Why is it that new Christians are discouraged from learning the beauty and accuracy of a language which has never been equaled nor surpassed in the worlds of literature anywhere in the world or in any other language.. Though I am not KJV Only, I am most definitely KJV First.. it has never let me down.. yet the so called scholars of other versions have always done so inevitably..

There is much wisdom in what you have said Rev Dr Ortega.

I really feel for the people who have been disturbed by some of the changes in the ESV. I checked Gen 3:16 also and it has indeed been "updated". Such changes over the years to modern Bibles have left me with little or no faith in them or the scholars that advocate for them. For many years I looked down on the King James Bible for its anachronisms, but for all that, today I trust it more than the collection of other Bibles I have in my Logos library. People may disagree with me and I mean no disrespect to anyone.  

All this shows the importance of prioritizing our Bibles in our Logos 7 to accord with how we approach the authority of our preferred Bibles - as all Bibles are not equal nor will they ever be.  Keep well Paul        

The KJV was "updated" and revised a number of times. The one most commonly used today dates from the 1790s.

I just want to write my agreement with this thought.. the ESV is so new as it goes with translations..  I would  prefer the option to purchase both editions as separate editions rather than lose the one I originally started with..  I may have to realign my theological thinking if the difference is drastic enough... It has happened before with other translations.. but either way I guess it will be for good also.. but let us keep both...

in the ESV Text Updates (2016) numbers 14:42 are absolutely identical in the previous and permanent text versions....  There is an error somewhere.. Perhaps in the original. I would not doubt it one bit.. Let's be careful.. too often we quote official sources, (so called) blindly, and way too often the matter does not merit it.. Here is an example par excellence..

in the ESV Text Updates (2016) numbers 14:42 are absolutely identical in the previous and permanent text versions....  There is an error somewhere.. Perhaps in the original. I would not doubt it one bit.. Let's be careful.. too often we quote official sources, (so called) blindly, and way too often the matter does not merit it.. Here is an example par excellence..

The difference is in the capitalization of "LORD".  The previous version had "Lord", whereas the permanent text has "LORD" (in small caps).

you're quite right... Having been to seminary for soo many decades repeating the years so often just because I enjoy it soo much, I should have caught that ... It makes a world of difference whether  the name is all caps or not..  It points to a different Hebrew original..  I have no excuse other than I have not slept for a week since my lovely dear sweet wife was put into ICU .. She is still there and iffy and she is my world and my cheer leader in my walk with GOD..  Please pray for us.. I am trying not to worry and trying to stay positive..  Thanks again.. Shalom...

I have not slept for a week since my lovely dear sweet wife was put into ICU .. She is still there and iffy and she is my world and my cheer leader in my walk with GOD..  Please pray for us.. I am trying not to worry and trying to stay positive..  Thanks again.. Shalom...

I'm so sorry to hear that this is happening in your life.  May the Lord be with you and your wife bringing His manifest presence, healing, comfort and strength to you and your wife. May she be healed completely and restored to you. I pray this in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Be assured that I will pray for you both and I'm sure that others here will also do so. Take care Paul

I join Paul in prayer for restoration for both you and your wife. May Christ's healing power be released to you both in his matchless name Amen.

Concerning your trouble sleeping, a visit to your primary doc is advisable.

Here is what I did with the ESV changes.  I copied the 2011 text and made it into a note that will show up in the ESV.