New resources I've found to try out
I haven't seen a list of new resources anyway so I did a file compare between the new and old resource folders to see what was different... I'm particularly excited about the expanding collection of reverse interlinears in their use for word studies...
Some I found that I could try out:
A Harmony of the Synoptic Gospels by Burton et al.
Records of the Life of Jesus by Sharman
NASB -> reverse interlinear (though it reads like an interlinear anyway right? [;)])
Others that I can see files for but I can't open (? because I only have Original Languages Library... I hope it's just a bug! [:D]):
NKJV -> reverse interlinear
LXX-Heb -> reverse interlinear
Lake's Apostolic Fathers -> reverse interlinear
New resource files that I can't work out what they are to try... Any ideas?
LCV.lbxlcv
mackie.lbxlty
tooman.lbxlty
Lots of *.lbslem files
Anything that others have found that's new for your collection?
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Jon,
the LXX-heb interlinear...can you give more info...i'm not sure that I have this...
Robert Pavich
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Speaking in ignorance I expect the "*.lbslem" are todo wuth lemmas...
Never Deprive Anyone of Hope.. It Might Be ALL They Have
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I'm taking a guess its this one Bob, note the Greek and Hebrew in the interlinear section. Correct me if I'm wrong Jon.
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Robert Pavich said:
Jon,
the LXX-heb interlinear...can you give more info...i'm not sure that I have this...
Found it - "Septuagint with Logos Morphology" has the Interlinear box available. And if you Bible Word Study 'g:logos', you have all the english translations; and all the ways hebrew root words it translates... This is awesome! [8-|]
Now when I do 'h:dbr' why do I get the english translation but not all the greek translations? Hmmm... bug? Or hasn't been implemented?
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AndrewMckenzie said:
I'm taking a guess its this one Bob
... and you beat me to it by 24 minutes [H]
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Ruben, I can't find Lake's Apostolic Fathers -> reverse interlinear either. And my guess is that Mackie refers to Mackie's literary typing that comes up in the passage guide. It might not be an actual resource.
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Jon - how did you do the 'file compare'. That's probably what Ive been looking for.
Longtime Logos user (more than $30,000 in purchases) - now a second class user because I won't pay them more every month or year.
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Ruben Gomez said:
I think I managed to find most of these resources, but, as I've said elsewhere, I can't seem to be able to locate Lake's Apostolic Fathers -> reverse interlinear.
The Apostolic Fathers reverse interlinear is associated with Lake's English translation. Just type "lake apostolic" in the command bar and select the English one, "Lake's Apostolic Fathers in English". Please disregard the "... for Reverse Interlinear" items; those were associated with the development of the dataset, not its implementation, and you shouldn't ever see them on your computer. You want the first one, like I have highlighted below.
The reverse interlinear button should then be visible (assuming all is well, some have had problems). If you click the "Interlinear" button/text, the data should show at the bottom of the window. Yes, we know that the AF has no strongs numbers; that line should disappear in a subsequent version of the reverse interlinear.
Rick Brannan
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Rick Brannan said:
The Apostolic Fathers reverse interlinear is associated with Lake's English translation.
I take it this is a resource you must own in 3.0 to take advantage of in 4.0?
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Rick Brannan said:Ruben Gomez said:
I think I managed to find most of these resources, but, as I've said elsewhere, I can't seem to be able to locate Lake's Apostolic Fathers -> reverse interlinear.
The Apostolic Fathers reverse interlinear is associated with Lake's English translation. Just type "lake apostolic" in the command bar and select the English one, "Lake's Apostolic Fathers in English".
Rick, that's precisely my problem. When I type "lake apostolic" here or in My Library, there is no such work!
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Ruben Gomez said:Rick Brannan said:Ruben Gomez said:
I think I managed to find most of these resources, but, as I've said elsewhere, I can't seem to be able to locate Lake's Apostolic Fathers -> reverse interlinear.
The Apostolic Fathers reverse interlinear is associated with Lake's English translation. Just type "lake apostolic" in the command bar and select the English one, "Lake's Apostolic Fathers in English".
Rick, that's precisely my problem. When I type "lake apostolic" here or in My Library, there is no such work!
Hi Reubén
It might be a licensing thing -- I honestly have no idea as to what is and isn't licensed with the beta. I'm assuming you've installed this:
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4Installer/BetaSyntaxResources.lbsupd
This is mentioned by Bradley here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/743/6502.aspx#6502 . On the licensing of these resources, Bradley notes "You must already have the syntax resources unlocked in LDLS3 (i.e., own
Original Languages Library, Scholar's Library, or higher) to use these
resources in Logos 4."- Rick
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Rick Brannan said:
I'm assuming you've installed this:
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4Installer/BetaSyntaxResources.lbsupd
Should I load these, even if I have the DVD?
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Richard DeRuiter said:Rick Brannan said:
I'm assuming you've installed this:
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4Installer/BetaSyntaxResources.lbsupd
Should I load these, even if I have the DVD?
No, you don't need to run that; the DVD already includes everything that has been made available through the separate downloads.
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Ruben Gomez said:
Rick,
I have Scholar's Library Gold and I have downloaded the file you mention, otherwise I would not have bothered you at all.
Anyway, I'm hoping that somewhere along the beta testing process I'll be able to find out why this resource is missing.
Thanks!
Lake is not part of Scholar's Gold. There are Lake, Lightfoot and Holmes editions of Apostolic Father's that can be bought as a set or individually. Additonally Lightfoot edition is included in SESB 3.0. So unless you have specifically purchased the set or the individual copy of Lake you will not have a license for it and so it won't be available to you in the beta as I understand. I only have Lightfoot as part of SESB 3.0 and so don't have Lake in the beta.
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Ruben Gomez said:
Andrew,
Thanks for the info. It that's the case it would make sense that the resource doesn't appear on my system. Somehow I was led to believe that there was a beta unlock for all these original language resources.
This did happen I believe when we were beta testing L3 but seems they are not doing it with L4 which is a same because it means everyone is not on the same page.
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L3 went through a very public Beta (and before that 2.2 Alpha) testing. While there were significant changes between 2.1 and 3.0, they are no where near as big as between 3.0 and 4.0. While it can be annoying that we are not on all the same page, Logos will have to make sure their software works with all kinds of 3.0 libraries upgrading to 4.0. We are only on Beta 1, and it is obvious that we have already found some instalation bugs that Logos needs to fix.
Logos has promised to crossgrade us to the new collections. Frankly, I would suspect that later on we will get some more Beta Licenses. But for now, I know I am most interested in getting all my old stuff to work with the new 4.0 interface, and more importantly, the old ME working with the new interface.
If only my DVD were here...
Kenneth McGuire
The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann
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L7 Lutheran Gold, Anglican Bronze
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Bradley Grainger said:Richard DeRuiter said:Rick Brannan said:
I'm assuming you've installed this:
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4Installer/BetaSyntaxResources.lbsupd
Should I load these, even if I have the DVD?
No, you don't need to run that; the DVD already includes everything that has been made available through the separate downloads.
Brad I ran the update before I saw your response and it seemed to download a lot of resources, followed by reindexing. Is this expected behavior, or should the update have realized I already had the data, or does this show that the DVD did not install the new resources?
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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I like WinMerge because it's free and open source and does the job well... It's useful if you do a bit of programming and want to compare versions of code but also comes in handy for stuff like this; instead of just comparing two files it can compare whole directories to tell you what's different...
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Richard DeRuiter said:
Brad I ran the update before I saw your response and it seemed to download a lot of resources, followed by reindexing. Is this expected behavior, or should the update have realized I already had the data, or does this show that the DVD did not install the new resources?
That link forces the resources to be downloaded whether you have them or not (it's not as smart as Libronix Update in LDLS3 and was intended just to bootstrap Beta 1). The system then re-prepares your library to determine if any of the downloaded resources are unlocked and newer than what you already had.
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I really need to remember to do the quote bit [:)]
Alex Scott said:Jon - how did you do the 'file compare'. That's probably what Ive been looking for.
I like WinMerge because it's free
and open source and does the job well... It's useful if you do a bit of
programming and want to compare versions of code but also comes in
handy for stuff like this; instead of just comparing two files it can
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I spoke too soon. I let LDLS 3.0 connect to the cloud and see I have the following from Account Summary.
Logos 4 Beta Resources
Resources
- The ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament
- The ESV English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Old Testament
- The King James Version
- The NRSV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament
Data Files
- Biblical People
- Biblical People
Other
- DB:BIBLICAL-PLACES
- DB:BIBLICAL-PLACES-MAPS
- DB:BIBLICAL-THINGS
- DB:EXCERPTS
- DB:LCV
- LLS:1000BBLIMG
- LLS:LBSINFOGRPHX
- LLS:LEXBIBLE
- LLS:LEXHAMSGGNT
- LLS:LOGOSLXX
- RVI:AV1873NT
- RVI:AV1873OT
- RVI:KJVNT
- RVI:KJVOT
- RVI:LAKEAF
- RVI:LEBNT
- RVI:LXXHEB
- RVI:NASBNT
- RVI:NASBOT
- RVI:NKJVNT
- RVI:NKJVOT
- RVI:NRSVOT
It looks like there are plans for some more new Reverse interlinears as well as some more graphics.
The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann
L8 Anglican, Lutheran and Orthodox Silver, Reformed Starter, Academic Essentials
L7 Lutheran Gold, Anglican Bronze
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In case you're wondering, DB:LCV is the Libronix Controlled Vocabulary. That's the data behind our new notion of "topic": you see it in places like
- the Topics section for certain Search results (try "communion")
- the Dictionaries links for Biblical People/Places/Things.
- some of items in the Topics section of the Passage Guide
But it's "under the hood", not a resource you can view directly.
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