Is Logos 8 coming out soon?
I'm just wondering as 7 is at 7.6, and I am planning on upgrading from 6 Standard to 7 Standard or Bronze soon, and would rather not pay for a new version just to have more ads from FL pushing 8.
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Hope not for a long while. No Money!
If you want Logos 8 now try Logos Now.
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Thankful for Basic and Verbum Basic that are free for upgrading to Logos 7 and/or Verbum 7 with "access-only" resources, which are free to use while having no effect on dynamic pricing.
Thankful for https://www.logos.com/tough-topics sale that includes 10 % discount for Base Package when purchased with a course in the Tough Topic sale.
Logos wiki => Mac Release Notes and History shows initial Logos 7.0 stable release on 22 Aug 2016 and initial Logos 6.0 stable release on 27 Oct 2014. Latest Logos 6 stable release is 6.14 SR-4. Uninformed user speculation for Logos 8 release is near Labor Day next year (with free Basic 8 about six months later in Feb 2019).
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Logos 7 was released in later half of 2016, Logos 8 not expected to be released till later half of 2018 as currently they run on an unofficial 2 year cycle between major releases.
Don't read anything into the version number in regards to timing of releases. It is just an incremental number. After 7.9 we will see 7.10, 7.11 etc. Theoretically we could see Logos 7.101, but I don't think we will come close to that version number. Logos 8.0 will most likely arrive long before that numbet is reached,
Of course as a business FL are free to change from a 2 year release cycle, it is not a legally binding time frame.
Whenever they choose to release Logos 8.0, regardless of what version you currently own, dependent upon what email lists you subscribe and settings you have chosen for your home page in the software, you are likely to be bombarded with advertising from FL encouraging you to either upgrade the version you own or to take up s subscription to get access to the latest version. In comparison to the companies earlier year, advertising is now a big component of their current business philosophy.
So my recommendation would be to ignore advertising as a factor in your decision making process as to whether you should upgrade or not.
Ezra Miller said:I'm just wondering as 7 is at 7.6, and I am planning on upgrading from 6 Standard to 7 Standard or Bronze soon, and would rather not pay for a new version just to have more ads from FL pushing 8.
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Although I have to say it is kinda disappointing that there's no new feature in Logos 7.6 release (7.7 beta too). (it kinda look like last year where there's no new feature just right before the release of Logos 7) [;)]
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Maintenance releases are good. There are a lot of existing issues that require attention.
mike said:Although I have to say it is kinda disappointing that there's no new feature in Logos 7.6 release (7.7 beta too). (it kinda look like last year where there's no new feature just right before the release of Logos 7)
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Disciple of Christ (doc) said:
Maintenance releases are good.
Yes, but in the past we grew accustomed to getting more new features. Since Logos Now, it makes more business sense for Faithlife to reserve these for subscription users until the next full version comes out. There are pros and cons to any approach to ownership now that it has been divided up into two tracks. We may still regret that it was, but there is no turning back and so we better get used to it. For those of us who do not have LN, updates will mainly be fixes here and there with not much exciting happening for two years.
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Francis said:
not much exciting happening for two years.
They just fixed a bug I reported last December—that's exciting to me! [:)]
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Ezra Miller said:
I'm just wondering as 7 is at 7.6, and I am planning on upgrading from 6 Standard to 7 Standard or Bronze soon, and would rather not pay for a new version just to have more ads from FL pushing 8.
As many speculated the same things last time then bam Logos 7 came out. I think many were caught by surprise when it came, I was not expecting it but there it was. So, it is possible it may drop sooner than people think. Keep your lamp trimmed and ready it may come when you least expect it.
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Logos 7 did come a little early, but only by a couple months—the trend is about two years between versions:
Logos 6.0 6.0.0.3700 Monday, October 27, 2014
Logos 6.14 6.14.0.0053 Monday, August 22, 2016
Logos 7.0 7.0.0.0055 Monday, August 22, 2016
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Well bless my soul!
8.0.1 (8.1.0.0000) is Now Available !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I just remembered that I could change what appears when I open Logos. So that could be one thing to do. Either way, I will be upgrading sometime this year.
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Ezra Miller said:
I'm just wondering as 7 is at 7.6, and I am planning on upgrading from 6 Standard to 7 Standard or Bronze soon, and would rather not pay for a new version just to have more ads from FL pushing 8.
FYI: the current way Logos is numbering the version changes, after 7.9 comes 7.10, then 7.11, etc. Doesn't make sense in the decimal system world, but in the programming world, it's how the numbering sometimes works.
From what we've been told, major version upgrades are now being released every 2 years.
BTW, you can upgrade to version 7 Basic for free here: https://www.logos.com/product/136022/basic (You can also purchase a Logos 7 feature set from the same page as you want.) There's no reason not to upgrade from version 6 to version 7, as you keep all you have in 6, while getting the current version 7 engine (which most experience as faster and more stable).
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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I understand that FL is concentrating on getting Logos to improve its overall performance. This is very welcome and certainly something that a world-class software needs. It's been a bit bumpy going from L4, so I'd rather see increases in speed and reliability than bells and whistles.
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
8.0.1 (8.1.0.0000) is Now Available !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this a joke? Or was it originally listed as 8.0??? It now says 7.7.
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Yes it is a joke
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Liam said:Whyndell Grizzard said:
8.0.1 (8.1.0.0000) is Now Available !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this a joke? Or was it originally listed as 8.0??? It now says 7.7.
You just now noticed? Whyndell's post was back in May of this year. You're 4 months late. Two things could've happened:
1. It was a mistake on Logos's part and then got corrected or
2. It was a joke. You can write anything you want like "Introducing Logos 8" and put a link underneath that takes you anywhere you choose ln the web. Possibilities are endless.
Most likely, it was a mistake that got corrected.
DAL
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For clarification: The "point" number is no indication for a new release. 7.9 can as easily be followed by 7.10 as it could 8.0... and actually, 7.10 is more likely.Ezra Miller said:I'm just wondering as 7 is at 7.6
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I just paid for a Logos 7 silver base package, now I keep hearing of a logos 8 release? .. how will this affect me? Will I now have adds once logos 8 is released?
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James Logan said:
I just paid for a Logos 7 silver base package, now I keep hearing of a logos 8 release? .. how will this affect me? Will I now have adds once logos 8 is released?
When a new major release is launched all you existing functionality remains.
New release bring new capabilities - most of which we need to pay for if we want them - and new bundles of resources.
A free engine upgrade to the new version is typically made available a few months after the release.
Based on past experience it is unlikely that we will see Logos 8 for about another year or so but I have seen no indication of when that might be
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Ok, so when it is released, would I be able to just use Logos 7 instead of upgrading, and also, if I cant, then the logos 8 basic wont be released for a few months after the logos 8 release, will I not be able to use logos 7 until the free version of 8 is released?
Thanks again.
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James Logan said:
Ok, so when it is released, would I be able to just use Logos 7 instead of upgrading
Yes absolutely - although eventually (quite some time) Logos 7 would become unsupported so advising to the free version of 8 would be recommended when it becomes available both to get the new free functionality and latest fixes etc.
James Logan said:then the logos 8 basic wont be released for a few months after the logos 8 release, will I not be able to use logos 7 until the free version of 8 is released?
Yes you can do that without any problem.
Note - both my comments above are based on what has happened in the last few major releases and I don't expect anything different next time round
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Graham Criddle said:
When a new major release is launched all you existing functionality remains.
Almost always ,,, remember when the smart "topic search" got dropped with one of the upgrades. This has never been totally replaced, though some of us made a stab at replacing it by creating collections of dictionaries and encyclopedias.
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James Logan said:
Ok so since I won't be able to use logos for a few months, apon the new software until the free version comes out in just got ripped off. What's the point of spending $1,500 on a software I wont be able to use for a few months. .. thanks for letting me know. I'll be getting a refund now since I'm in my 30 day money back still.
what do you mean? This is worded in a confusing way.
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James Logan said:
FFrom my understanding, I won't be able to use logos after the update to logos 8 until the free logos 8 basic comes out, even tho I've bought a base package for $1,500? And the free version could take months
No this isn't correct - and apologies if I confused you.
You can carry on using Logos 7 for a long time after Logos 8 eventually ships - certainly until after the free version is released when you can upgrade to that.
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Floyd Johnson said:
Almost always ,,, remember when the smart "topic search" got dropped with one of the upgrades.
I think - but am not sure as I wasn't using Logos then - that this was the major architectural change from L3 to L4.
My comments were more related to Logos 4 onwards but appreciate I didn't make that clear.
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James Logan said:
FFrom my understanding, I won't be able to use logos after the update to logos 8 until the free logos 8 basic comes out, even tho I've bought a base package for $1,500? And the free version could take months
No need for anyone to panic--this thread was started with nothing but speculation. Nothing's going to happen to anyone's purchases.
As Graham stated, Logos 7 will continue to work for a good long time. Eventually--likely not for about a year--Logos 8 will roll out with special new library bundles (different mixes of books). You can buy one then, getting a discount for books (known as "dynamic pricing") you already own, or do nothing if you like. Perhaps a few months later, the Logos 8 engine will be made available for free to everyone, so if you don't want to spend any money, you can just wait for that while you continue to use Logos 7 as always.
Logos 7, when it first rolled, was nearly identical to the most recent version 6, so the change really wasn't anything to get excited about either way. With Logos, you never lose access to books you have already purchased. You may, when a new version is released, be tempted by a few new bells & whistles or maybe some really good deals on books you've had your eyes on... again, there's nothing to worry about.
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James Logan said:
Ok, so when it is released, would I be able to just use Logos 7 instead of upgrading, and also, if I cant, then the logos 8 basic wont be released for a few months after the logos 8 release, will I not be able to use logos 7 until the free version of 8 is released?
Thanks again.
Take a quick glance at some of the other forums:
Libronix (including Logos for Mac 1):
Has a post that states that states that: October 1st, we will turn off all web services supporting the Libronix Digital Library System – that is Oct 1, 2017 -- It also states that: This will not disable your Libronix DLS installation.Then there are also: With dates of some very OLD posts in those forums to show how old those versions are
Logos 4 Posted: Wed, Nov 25 2009
Logos 5 Posted: Fri, Nov 2 2012
Logos 6 Posted: Sat, Oct 25 2014Historically Old versions of Logos get used long after new versions come out
Nothing guarantees that that will continue BUT history of Faithlife is that old versions keep running.Sometimes new book require an upgrade but what you have keeps working as long as the computer you have keeps running.
There sometimes are problems running older versions of Logos on newer versions of the computer operating systems. That is we do not know what will happen to Logos 7 [and 4 and 5 and 6] on Windows 13. [[the same maybe true on Mac updated OP]]
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James Logan said:
Ok, so when it is released, would I be able to just use Logos 7 instead of upgrading ...
Yes, a friend continued to use Logos 6 for many months after Logos 7 was released, which included Logos 6 maintenance releases. After free Logos 7 was released earlier this year, friend purchased free Basic and Verbum Basic packages for Logos 7 upgrade.
Logos Wiki => Mac Release Notes and History shows initial Logos 7.0 stable release on 22 Aug 2016 was followed by five Logos 6 maintenance releases. End of Support for Logos 6 happened four months after free Logos 7 availability. Anticipating Logos 7 and Verbum 7 to be similarly supported after Logos 8 release.
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Floyd Johnson said:Graham Criddle said:
When a new major release is launched all you existing functionality remains.
Almost always ,,, remember when the smart "topic search" got dropped with one of the upgrades. This has never been totally replaced, though some of us made a stab at replacing it by creating collections of dictionaries and encyclopedias.
Uservoice suggestion => Bring back Topic Search and Fuzzy Search "Bring back Logos 3's Topic Browser and Fuzzy Search capabilities" has Faithlife reply on 14 Nov 2016:
Bradley Grainger said:The LDLS3 Topic Browser has been replaced by the Factbook and Topic Guide.
An improved version of LDLS3 Fuzzy Search for Bibles is available as Fuzzy Bible Search (in Everything Search in Logos Now): https://community.logos.com/forums/t/132569.aspx
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Sean said:
With Logos, you never lose access to books you have already purchased.
Not totally true, there was resources I had in the old format for LLS 2.0/2.1 that were never converted to Libronix format and so were lost when Logos 4 came out.
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Disciple of Christ (doc) said:
Not totally true, there was resources I had in the old format for LLS 2.0/2.1 that were never converted to Libronix format and so were lost when Logos 4 came out.
Care to share some specific examples?
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Michael S. said:Disciple of Christ (doc) said:
Not totally true, there was resources I had in the old format for LLS 2.0/2.1 that were never converted to Libronix format and so were lost when Logos 4 came out.
Care to share some specific examples?
I would have to try and dig out of storage the original CD-ROMS to give you the specific details but there were some sets that included the textbook, workbook and supporting video and audio material which were never converted over to LBX format. There were also some resources put out by what I believe was called Logos South Africa publishing that were never converted to LBX format including a suite of resources built around the Collins Dictionary - it included an audio pronounciation of every word in that dictionary. That was lost with only the text of the dictionary being converted.
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Just took a survey from Logos asking what the liklihood is that I would upgrade to Logos 8. I wonder if it is now on the horizon.
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Anthony Delgado said:
Just took a survey from Logos asking what the liklihood is that I would upgrade to Logos 8. I wonder if it is now on the horizon.
That’s interesting. The England betting polls are currently at Aug 26. But Aug 23 very close.
No survey for me ... PC works fine. New Logos updates don’t. Easy answer.
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I got the same survey. Asking if you are likely to upgrade. If you do upgrade what interests you the most.
For example, would you just upgrade for Logos 8 features.
Upgrade to a new bundle with new libraries? ect
And then also what price point would you want to invest to upgrade.
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I have part of L8 now with the Faithlife Connect Essentials No Library. It’s looking good so far 👍😁👌
DAL
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Faithlife should just let us know when they plan on coming out with a new version. I don't like all the sececy.
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James C. said:
Faithlife should just let us know when they plan on coming out with a new version. I don't like all the sececy.
It isn't in their best interest to do so, but there is no real mystery.
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James C. said:
Faithlife should just let us know when they plan on coming out with a new version. I don't like all the sececy.
Faithlife learned a lesson from announcing Logos for Mac too early. Logos wiki => Mac Release Notes and History includes Guesses, which turned out to be inaccurate (with user disappointment since application shipped many months later). Hence, Faithlife desires Logos 8 & Verbum 8 to have something worth purchasing before announcing it.
Thankful for Beta releases (sometimes have been a crash dummy). Currently only have Logos 7 & Verbum 7 Beta's.
User speculation for upcoming Logos releases (using 6 week development cycle):
- 7.15 => 14 May 2018
- 7.16 => 25 Jun 2018
- 7.17 => 8 Aug 2018
- 7.18 => 17 Sep 2018
- 7.19 => 29 Oct 2018
- 7.20 => 10 Dec 2018
- 7.21 => 21 Jan 2019
- 7.22 => 4 Mar 2019
Logos 7.0 was released on 22 Aug 2016 so guessing 7.17 or higher could become 8.0
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Logos 7.0 was released on 22 Aug 2016 so guessing 7.17 or higher could become 8.0
[Y]
Of course, the whole "planning on coming out with a new version" is really a misnomer. FL isn't interested in who will "buy a new version," they are interested in who will "buy a new base package."
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Has anyone heard why 7.15 RC1 seems to be a few days off the usual pattern?
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Robert M. Warren said:
Has anyone heard why 7.15 RC1 seems to be a few days off the usual pattern?
+1 [Y] Puzzled [:S] plus concur 7.15 RC 1 does not match usual pattern for many months.
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Robert M. Warren said:
Has anyone heard why 7.15 RC1 seems to be a few days off the usual pattern?
We didn't have any changes to ship on Monday, and there wasn't any point in making beta users download an update that only changed the version number.
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JT that is a very good point. And as many of the FL customer base have been buying resources for from them from 20+ years, it is harder and harder to put together a new base package that would excite us. In a sense, FL becomes a victim of their own success. That is not unrelated to the move toward subscription marketing.JT (alabama24) said:Logos 7.0 was released on 22 Aug 2016 so guessing 7.17 or higher could become 8.0
Of course, the whole "planning on coming out with a new version" is really a misnomer. FL isn't interested in who will "buy a new version," they are interested in who will "buy a new base package."
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Michael Childs said:
... it is harder and harder to put together a new base package that would excite us. In a sense, FL becomes a victim of their own success. That is not unrelated to the move toward subscription marketing.
Not intensionally arguing, but I disagree. A-Company has some interesting packages that I really have to think about. Logos packages tend to be broad-based, and boring. But subject-based would be nice. I'd assume fluffed up with oldies, but that's ok.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
But subject-based would be nice.
Any subject-based bundle ideas ? (especially interesting ones not offered by Faithlife)
Thankful for 474 Live Bundles => https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=bundle&Status=Live&start=&sort=bestselling&pageSize=60
Some subject-based ideas: (first two have resources no longer offered for individual sale, which were available years ago)
NIV bundle of 2011 and 1984 editions with Reverse Interlinear, including Anglicised.
Add BADG to BDAG/HALOT Bundle
Bundling Mobile Education courses with referenced resources
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I am also waiting for Logos 8 to come out... as it is not worth it to pay for new feature set every version... so I would skip a version or two more often than not, 50% of the base package won't be used... I hope there is a specific base package for exegetical work, with various grammars and lexicons along with various sources that are recommended.
I bought logos 6 reformed gold which is a significant cost, only to discover that I can't do much exegesis because important grammar books are not available, neither is there Louw and Nida, LSJ, Dan Wallace, Blass and co.. and it did not have Rahlf's LXX which is "the standard". No TWOT too. There is no BHS too although I think LHB uses the same text.
I do hope BADG (2nd Ed of BDAG) will be sold again. also the books of Moody Press about "introductions" to various genres like prophets (from Bullocks).
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WORDsearch 12 released today, so you know that Logos 8 is soon to follow later on this year 👍😁👌
DAL
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Will it have all the same features and 50 free books for $39.99? You would think they would jump from Logos 7 to Logos 13 just to stay ahead.[;)]
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Prognostication: Not only will it be released soon, but NICNT will be in a base package, or they never would have run all these steep sales.
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