LogosNext V6 Feedback (Closed Beta)
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David Couch said:
Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.
This is fixed in the latest release [:D]
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I really wish you could still have a half-screen resource hide all the way. You can only go so far down. Any chance?
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Hi Gavin
If you go into the “workplace switcher” screen you should be able to remove the split screen totally. Click the “x” at the top of the split area
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Graham Criddle said:
If you go into the “workplace switcher” screen you should be able to remove the split screen totally. Click the “x” at the top of the split area
Thanks Graham,
Although, I would still like to be able to swipe up to see it.
For instance, it would be sweet to have an ESV/ESV Study Bible "workspace" and then be able to double-finger swipe to an NIV/NIV Study Bible "workspace". I just don't want to have to see the Study Bible part at all times.
Does that make sense?
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Yes, that makes a lot of sense. And your example is very helpful.
Sounds like a good idea
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David Couch said:David Couch said:
Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.
This is fixed in the latest release
Oh wow, what a nice surprise. Double tap on an image to open it full screen, and it's zoomable. Thanks for implementing this improvement!!
I tend to think a single short tap should be enough to open the view up.
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I know it’s been mentioned, but I can’t seem to find a response.... LogosNext crashes every time I try to make a clipping.
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Fr Devin Roza said:David Couch said:David Couch said:
Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.
This is fixed in the latest release
Oh wow, what a nice surprise. Double tap on an image to open it full screen, and it's zoomable. Thanks for implementing this improvement!!
I tend to think a single short tap should be enough to open the view up.
This is still resource-specific, I take it? I've tried with the first 5 images I came across in the Cultural Background Study Bible without any luck, and I'm definitely on the latest beta.
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Ah yeah, seems so. I just tried in the Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible too, and it doesnt work in the same way.
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I have things set up so that I have my Bible and Notes file open in one screen and the next screams synced to the first is my commentary. When I tap on the note icon in a Bible verse and it pops up. I hit the Edit Note link at the bottom of the window that pops up, but it doesn’t move the Note file to that note.
This led to a new need. We need a search box so that I could search for this note or other things in my open Note document.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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David Couch said:
Ah yeah, seems so. I just tried in the Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible too, and it doesnt work in the same way.
Even in resources where it works, I've seen times where it simply won't work, on images where it previously did. Then later on it starts working again. [:^)]
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I am not a participant in the LogosNext Beta but I have been reading this thread with great interest and excitement. Please see comments/observations below:
Bible Button:
Bill Anderson said:Does anyone find the Logos logo functioning as the Bible logo inconsistent with the UI?
Yes Bill. I do.
Faithlife, I believe the current Bible button on the bottom toolbar is inconsistent with the rest of the toolbar and it should be grey like the other buttons. To my eyes, the high contrast logos icon image that is used is visually distracting. It is also confusing because the image implies something other than a Bible access function.
Bill Anderson said:How about a logo such as this?
'Edit: I don't know what happened when I inserted the image.
Yes! Faithlife, please consider Bill’s suggested image or something similar (a non-distracting grey book image consistent with the other buttons).
Fonts:
Please allow users to select a font style of their choice from a set of available options. Please include Verdana as one of the options. This has been requested in Uservoice and in multiple forum threads for a long time (see links below).
Uservoice links:
- allow users to select font style of their choice
- let me choose the font on ios (although this suggestion states IOS, it reflects an android need as well)
Forums links:
- android bible app change fonts possibility
With all that said, I do appreciate all the changes and improvements that you are making.
Thank you
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The text of menus is dark and unreadable in low light mode.
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In regards to the latest beta version, I think the previous Bible icon in the center was much more attractive than now.0
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David Gayle Woods said:
In regards to the latest beta version, I think the previous Bible icon in the center was much more attractive than now.
Could not agree more. First icon was catchy, sharp, crisp, and portrayed the Logos brand much better! Hope it gets changed back.
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
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Willie said:
Faithlife, I believe the current Bible button on the bottom toolbar is inconsistent with the rest of the toolbar and it should be grey like the other buttons. To my eyes, the high contrast logos icon image that is used is visually distracting. It is also confusing because the image implies something other than a Bible access function
FWIW, I don't agree. I think it's helpful for beginners to have an obvious button that gets them straight to the Bible. The Logos logo doesn't say "Bible" in the way that a Bible-specific icon does. That said, I'd prefer that the icon was the cover of your preferred Bible. I suggested that several weeks ago, and the newly-designed Kindle app that was released a few days ago has a very similar design.
This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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Status bar disappears when Low Light mode is on (it's probably set to white):
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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The top (more so than the bottom) status bar is a bit of a productivity/ease-of-use killer. When I type in a scripture reference or go through the book/chapter/verse dialog, I expect it to go to that verse. It does, but because the top bar is covering over the verse, I cannot see it. So then I have to tap the screen, move up and down, etc. to get the verse to show.
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Philemon text repeats itself. Reproduces when I open in esv In newest beta on iPhone X
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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When doing a mumultiparty reading plan, it is super annoying that following the link to the next reading opens into a new tab. Similarly when I️ split screens like this, when a link in top opens in the same resource that is open on bottom panel, don’t open a new tab
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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I used to receive these updates to LogosNext, but am now only receiving updates to the standard Logos Beta. Is this a problem on my end, or was I excluded from this particular beta test?
Thanks.
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I am starting to think there needs to be a "sync" button on the menu. When I open the app (say, on an iPhone), a lot of times it doesn't go to where I left off on my iPad.
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Gavin Murphy said:
I am starting to think there needs to be a "sync" button on the menu. When I open the app (say, on an iPhone), a lot of times it doesn't go to where I left off on my iPad.
yes!
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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I’m getting pretty consistent bugs in display on the closed beta (vNext) where text is skipped. I’ve gotten this in Bibles and books. Oftentimes closing the book and closing the app and then reopening the app and the book fixes the display problem.
Here is is an example. Ive posted others. I can continue to document if that would be helpful.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Hello, all!
Thanks for your continued feedback. We’ve been taking much of your input and turning it into action items for either future improvements or big fixes. Again, super helpful. I know we’ve made some pretty significant changes— thanks for going on this journey with us!
There’s a new feature we’ve shipped with the most recent beta, that I would love your feedback on. It’s called “Reference Scanner”.
What does it do?
You take a picture of Bible references and Logos will quickly look up all of the references in the photo— listing them conveniently in a tab for you. Use cases: your pastor’s sermon notes, a list of cross references in a phyisical Bible, a seminary syllabus. Pretty much any time you want to look up a list of Bible references. Works best with type. If you have really good handwriting, it may pick that up too.
How do you use it?
Open up the “More” menu, then tap “Reference Scanner” from the top of the list. You’ll need to give permission for Logos to access your camera. Then, either upload a photo from your camera roll or take a photo.
After it scans your photo, a list of references will appear in a new tab.
I have attached 3 photos to the post. One is where to find Reference Scanner, one is the book that I scanned, and the other is the results screen. Give it a try and let us know what you think!
***It’s only on the iOS Beta right now but will be coming to Android soon
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If the beta is open to additional testers, I’d love to get a TestFlight invite. I use Logos on an iPhone X and 12.9” iPad Pro.
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Daniel Di Bartolo said:
I would love your feedback on. It’s called “Reference Scanner”.
It is VERY slow, at least the several times I tried it. The first time my lighting was better and it seemed to work pretty well. I tried it in a lower light setting (not dark by any means) and it failed repeatedly.
It isn't clear what is supposed to happen once you click "scan." Nothing changes on the screen immediately.
Down the road, it would be good if the user could add these verses to a passage list.
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alabama24 said:
Down the road, it would be good if the user could add these verses to a passage list.
[Y]
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Ryan Christoffel said:
If the beta is open to additional testers, I’d love to get a TestFlight invite. I use Logos on an iPhone X and 12.9” iPad Pro.
I would love to get an invite as well!
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Could I get an invite?
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Ryan Christoffel said:
If the beta is open to additional testers, I’d love to get a TestFlight invite. I use Logos on an iPhone X and 12.9” iPad Pro.
I'm on the same devices and would love an invitation.
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I do like the new interface with the multiple workspaces. After working in it for a while I have a couple thoughts
1. When in my Bible, sometimes I want to change translations. When I do, the passage also she to the last page used in that translation. I wish that when using change resource the passage would stay where I have been reading.
2. When navigating to a passage, or opening to a specific location in a resource, I wish the title bar would go away automatically. I know what resource I opened, and the passage I chose. The title bar covers the top lines, and tapping to clear it seems unnecessary.
Thank you for your consideration
Windows 7, Nexus 7
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I'm on iPhone X and would love an invite to the beta if possible.
Thanks,
Peter
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Thanks for the invite, here are some initial impressions:
Good
- Tabbed interface is fantastic
- Love being able to swipe between them with 1 finger so quickly
- Huge improvement
Suggestions
- Allow vertical split screen for viewing 2 resources side-by-side on the iPad when doing split screen mode for 2 apps, rather than forcing top-bottom split. I use a 2nd app to write in, but even though I have a huge amount of real estate on my 12.9” screen, it forces a much less convenient horizonal split view.
- When typing notes with an external keyboard, the bottom toolbar is covered by the QuickType toolbar.
- Would really like the option to add a 3rd resource for split view on iPad Pro. I think a very common use would be (1) Bible (2) Resource (3) Notes.
- I agree with others about the toolbar appearing. Though it works for Safari, web pages are a different animal, and usually you are wanting to find the back button pretty soon. But with a book, I am not wanting to get out of it that often, especially now that there are tabs.
- Is there a way to set default opening options for opening new links? For instance, this tab, split, or new tab?
- What is the limit to tabs? How does that work? Does opening too many tabs close other tabs?
- Drag and Drop support would be great.
- And, of course, personal books
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Love the interface, was just trying to use the block a section and copy it. When I made the initial grab to extent the blocked out section, it tried to let me tab back and forth between screens rather than grabbing the blue dot and extending the block. I agree with others, that a two finger scroll through tabs would be a better user interface.
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Could I get an invite please?
Thanks
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I'm a long-time user of Logos, a long-time beta-tester of another bible program (which doesn't exist on ios), and just recently added an ipad 10.5 to my iphone 7. Already have TestFlight installed because I'm a beta-tester for a prominent national newspaper. Would love a beta invite from Logos.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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I have been playing around with the new beta a bit and like the ability to have the collection of resources open on different "tabs" and the various UI changes.
One of the questions that I can't find discussed here yet is the loss of the ability to move through a resource like we used to be able to. I don't see the horizontal scroll bar with the large round dot that allowed you to quickly scroll through an open resource. It even displayed headers as you moved through. Is there something that I am missing that allows this type of user interaction. The only way I can see to moving through a resource is via the table of contents or scrolling.
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Removing the scroll bar was a deliberate design choice that was discussed during early testing.
I forget the exact reasons for removing it - Personally I think it was the wrong decision
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First impressions of the beta.
This is awesome! Love it!"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Books with nested table of contents:
After expanding an item in the table of contents, if I try to go back to the previous level by tapping the back button in the upper left, or the back button for Android, it takes me back to the book and out of the table of contents. This can be a nuisance when trying to locate a section a user wants to open in a book.
Windows 7, Nexus 7
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Broken linked panels
When in a bible tab linked with a commentary tab, changing the Bible book (eg. John to Ezekiel), the commentary tab does not change to the proper book in the commentary series (eg. NICNT\NICOT)
Windows 7, Nexus 7
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Mike Measley said:
When in a bible tab linked with a commentary tab, changing the Bible book (eg. John to Ezekiel), the commentary tab does not change to the proper book in the commentary series (eg. NICNT\NICOT)
I don't believe this has ever worked in the mobile apps so it is probably just that this functionality has not been added
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Lookup doesn’t work on non bible resources. Select word, tap Lookup and it flashes the info window briefly before disappearing. I want english dictionary lookup.
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The app crashes if you delete a reading plan. If you delete the reading plan from the "Reading Plans" menu, after the app crashes and you reopen the it, the reading plan is not deleted. If you delete the reading plan from the home screen, the app crashes, but the reading plan is removed.
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David Gayle Woods said:
The app crashes if you delete a reading plan.
This will be fixed in an imminent beta release. Thanks for reporting!
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Peter Osborn said:
I'm on iPhone X and would love an invite to the beta if possible.
Thanks,
Peter
I'd like an invite as well if you haven't exhausted you 10,000 available! I'm also using an iPhone X. I'm a longtime Logos/Mac/iOS user and have beta tested from early days with Logos on the Mac.
Thank you!
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I also would love to get an invite for Beta testing the app. I have the 8 Plus 256 Gb.
Thanks!
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