Sentence Diagrams for Entire Greek New Testament?

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Marcus Vanhountenmeyer | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 17 2017 9:40 PM

Anybody know a resource (or multiple) that have sentence diagrams for the entire Greek New Testament already pre-done?  I know about the Cascadia Syntax Graphs, but they don't seem to be as visually helpful as sentence diagrams are...

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 8:42 AM

They're not in Logos, but I have these:

http://www.inthebeginning.org/ntgreek/diagrams.htm

I find them helpful.

I think BibleWorks has some kind of "resource" with diagrams for the whole NT. I don't have the software, but I've seen it in a friend's. I've wondered why Logos doesn't have the equivalent.

Donnie

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 10:32 AM

Thankful for => New Feature: Discourse Datasets and Visual Filters (Dataset) and => New Feature: Propositional Outlines

Screen shot shows Discourse Greek sentences in SBL and Propositional Outlines in NA28 (along with Logos Greek Morphology visual filters)

FYI: Supplied in Propositional Outlines is being reviewed => Punctuation handled poorly in Propositional Outline visual filter

Faithlife Group => https://faithlife.com/logos-sentence-diagrams/documents includes RK (Reed Kellogg) diagrams by Terry Cook that can be copied:

Keep Smiling Smile

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Marcus Vanhountenmeyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 2:14 PM

Thanks I'll check on these topics.  When I do to the Documents tab of that group...there are no documents.  The news tab has several people mentioning it, but nothing shows up there for me...i'm signed in and "following" that group.

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Rick Carmickle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 3:08 PM

The best NT diagrams are here, but outside of Logos. Logos should add them.

http://www.inthebeginning.org/e-diagrams/ 

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 4:08 PM

Marcus Vanhountenmeyer:

Thanks I'll check on these topics.  When I do to the Documents tab of that group...there are no documents.  The news tab has several people mentioning it, but nothing shows up there for me...i'm signed in and "following" that group.

inthebeginning.org has them in PDF- I know that's not within Logos- but they are very helpful.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 4:14 PM

Samples Alva McLean, then William Ramey:

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Marcus Vanhountenmeyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 5:13 PM

Thanks for the response!  I see how to obtain William Ramey's resource, but I don't see Alva McLean's resource.  I see some books by her on Amazon, but which one (preferably e-book) is it that contains the diagrams?  Thanks!

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 7:37 PM

You can make your own diagrams if you learn to read the graphs. Try OpenText if you don't like Cascadia.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 19 2017 3:00 AM

Is openText complete? I thought it was a third party project that was never completed but maybe I am wrong.

Matt Hamrick:

You can make your own diagrams if you learn to read the graphs. Try OpenText if you don't like Cascadia.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 19 2017 3:19 AM

Marcus Vanhountenmeyer:

Thanks for the response!  I see how to obtain William Ramey's resource, but I don't see Alva McLean's resource.  I see some books by her on Amazon, but which one (preferably e-book) is it that contains the diagrams?  Thanks!

That's John Alva McLean- he taught at Grace Seminary I believe, I don't believe his diagrams are on the market, I received these decades ago when I used Gramcord- which I still have.

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Nord Zootman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 19 2017 4:16 AM

Whyndell Grizzard:
That's John Alva McLean- he taught at Grace Seminary I believe, I don't believe his diagrams are on the market, I received these decades ago when I used Gramcord- which I still have.

Actually that would be Alva J McClain that was founder and president at Grace. Smile

Edit: I just saw the name on your outline. Not familiar with John Mclean, but his name doesn't ring a bell and I am a Grace Seminary alumnus. The man at grace that was known for his book, "Diagramatical Analysis" was Lee Kantenwein.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 19 2017 5:33 AM

Nord Zootman:

Whyndell Grizzard:
That's John Alva McLean- he taught at Grace Seminary I believe, I don't believe his diagrams are on the market, I received these decades ago when I used Gramcord- which I still have.

Actually that would be Alva J McClain that was founder and president at Grace. Smile

Edit: I just saw the name on your outline. Not familiar with John Mclean, but his name doesn't ring a bell and I am a Grace Seminary alumnus. The man at grace that was known for his book, "Diagramatical Analysis" was Lee Kantenwein.

i stand corrected- thanks.

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 19 2017 7:25 AM

Disciple of Christ (doc):

Is openText complete? I thought it was a third party project that was never completed but maybe I am wrong.

Matt Hamrick:

You can make your own diagrams if you learn to read the graphs. Try OpenText if you don't like Cascadia.

I use OpenText because that's what I was trained on, have not ran into any problems with it yet so cannot answer if it's complete or not.

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Armando Borja | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 7:16 AM

Hi, May I know what is the name of the software you are using to diagram Greek sentences? Thank you and God bless

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 23 2020 8:01 AM

Randy Leedy did the NT Greek Diagrams for Bible Works.

His website is https://www.ntgreekguy.com

You can purchase them with either the NA28 or the SBL edition of the Greek text.

they are also on prepub with Logos- https://www.logos.com/product/189626/greek-new-testament-sentence-diagrams

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