What are the top bugs or incomplete features that make your Logos life a pain?

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 22 2021 6:22 PM

Make the Library pane STOP losing focus with every single update to anything. Renaming resources and tagging resources are both terrible experiences for me right now because of this.

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3. Loss of the Sanctoral cycle layout and the "conversion" of the Saints card to a calendar devotional in practice. {I may be the sole complainant on this)

I gave up.

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Hamilton Ramos | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 19 2021 5:19 PM

Michael:
For me it would be dark mode.  It's half baked and unusable due to legibility issues with various font colors and highlight colors.  It's disappointing since dark mode is marketed as a key feature for Logos 9.

Agree, sometimes the fonts are unreadable in certain resources, so that one has to use the web app to read it.

Also what seems like a missing feature for me is the inability to put hyperlinks in canvas to particular resource locations.

If I could do that, then I would be able to create mind map like visual index.

For example imagine the text in the following image to be a hyperlink that would take me to a canvas doc that has many resource locations relevant to that particular word:

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 19 2021 5:58 PM

Hamilton Ramos:
Also what seems like a missing feature for me is the inability to put hyperlinks in canvas to particular resource locations.

Adding scripture references in Canvas - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) from 2019 has hyperlinks ..

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 19 2021 7:20 PM

John Kaess:

The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER.

I had a little steam issuing from my ears for this very reason just today. You summarized it well, though I usually experience it when changing a resource's title rather than when tagging. The current updating process interrupts any subsequent process you may be working on and deselects it, so that you have to start your amending from scratch. The only option is to wait however many seconds for the updating process to occur. The irony is that when I did this on my older and slower computer, if I was quick I could do a series of back-to-back changes, and if I completed a subsequent change before the update kicked in, the update que just rolled back. Now, with my zippy system, I have to just sit for a few seconds and do nothing while waiting for the update to register. So now, because my faster computer processes my changes quicker, the process is slower because I can't fully complete a subsequent edit, so any edit work I'm engaged in gets wiped out. Frustrating and time wasting.

So, to be clear, two issues need to be addressed here:

1) The "yellow bar" John mentions should not be inserted into the library list. It simply causes problems when this happens. A pop-up box in the corner would work better, assuming anything needs to happen at all (I'm not sure the information provided in the yellow bar is even necessary).

2) When the updated edited entry "kicks in", that should not wipe out any work a user is engaged in while making subsequent edits.

EDIT: I see SineNomine (among others) also has the same concern above.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 19 2021 7:39 PM

PL:

One perpetual, system wide pet peeve:

Biblical text popups (when hovering over a biblical reference) are not scrollable. E.g. Hover over a reference to "John 1" will only show the first few verses.

First asked for similar functionality about a decade ago, although my request was for scrollable Notes. Most frustrating was that some native pop-up note windows (in NETS, for instance) do scroll, but we weren't allowed to have this function in our personal notes. Just recently, when I got my new tablet, I was surprised to find that the notes in the mobile app do scroll. This functionality should be available in the desktop app...100%.

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cshover8669 | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2021 5:35 PM

I totally agree with this one. It keeps dumping me out of the information pane in the middle of adding a tag.

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EastTN | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2021 6:40 PM

One that drives me crazy is the inability to delete my answers out of a textbook so I can work through it again. That can't be that difficult to program, and to include an appropriate "are you sure" process so it won't happen accidentally. But being able to re-use a book would greatly enhance its value.

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Eli Evans (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2021 8:00 PM

EastTN:

One that drives me crazy is the inability to delete my answers out of a textbook so I can work through it again.

Resource inputs are now stored in the Notes tool, so you have full control over them from there. You can get to the note by clicking the little note indicator to the right of the resource input.

To bulk delete, filter notes in the Notes tool by the workbook resource in question, then you can select all and delete. (They will be saved in Trash.) If you want to keep the answers but clear the the workbook blank, you can delete a given note's anchor.

(We could still add this as a button or a resource menu command on the workbook itself, for convenience and discoverability. I'll suggest it.)

Peace!

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EastTN | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2021 7:37 AM

Eli Evans (Faithlife):

Resource inputs are now stored in the Notes tool, so you have full control over them from there. You can get to the note by clicking the little note indicator to the right of the resource input.

To bulk delete, filter notes in the Notes tool by the workbook resource in question, then you can select all and delete. (They will be saved in Trash.) If you want to keep the answers but clear the the workbook blank, you can delete a given note's anchor.

(We could still add this as a button or a resource menu command on the workbook itself, for convenience and discoverability. I'll suggest it.)

Peace!

Sweet!  I hadn't caught that - thank you very much for fixing this!  (Now I have a couple of textbooks I need to revisit...)

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Khazar | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 23 2021 1:22 PM

Hello Gregory,

Perhaps this is out of scope of this post, but can you elaborate a bit on why you've given up on creating personal books at all?

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Martin Hall | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 23 2021 7:25 PM

EastTN:

One that drives me crazy is the inability to delete my answers out of a textbook so I can work through it again. That can't be that difficult to program, and to include an appropriate "are you sure" process so it won't happen accidentally. But being able to re-use a book would greatly enhance its value.

What might be better is if you had the ability to "archive" your previous answers & then be able to access them later to compare your current answers to your former answers. I find that sometimes my thought process has changed or I see growth from my previous answers. 

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2021 12:35 AM

Martin Hall:

What might be better is if you had the ability to "archive" your previous answers & then be able to access them later to compare your current answers to your former answers. I find that sometimes my thought process has changed or I see growth from my previous answers. 

While I may never use any of the workbooks I own (I'm pretty sure I own some, though I'm not exactly sure which ones), this suggestions does sound like a valuable option.

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Armin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2021 7:36 AM

My main complaint are the inconsistencies in the user interface. They significantly reduce usability. I tried to list them in a post here in the forum but FL only responded with a fairly generic e-mail after my second e-mail to them.

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/197602.aspx

Some of these inconsistencies should be easy to fix but I guess these inconsistencies don't have a high priority for FL.

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cshover8669 | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2021 9:32 AM

John Kaess:
The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER.

You guys have probably listed my top 3. 

The Library update issue is the worst pain ever.

I would love to scroll in Bible pop ups

Bible Browser should include Old and New Testament categories. I keep having to search book by book and it would be so much easier if I could search all of the New or all of the Old Testament at one time.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2021 10:09 AM

cshover8669:
The Library update issue is the worst pain ever.

The loss of focus part of it has been fixed in 9.6 Beta 1.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2021 2:32 PM

SineNomine:

cshover8669:
The Library update issue is the worst pain ever.

The loss of focus part of it has been fixed in 9.6 Beta 1.

That's very good to hear. Thank you, FL. However, although that issue has long been a nuisance, it is a problem that always had a fairly straightward, if tedious, workaround: just wait. Once the program finished its "think", you could proceed apace.

Far more pressing for me, I have noticed plenty of other users addressing issues in the forum that I have been noticing as well over the last couple of months related to the Note system. In a word, Notes are BROKEN...basic, fundamental word processing functions have vanished into the ether. Issues I have noticed include:

  • footnotes and marginal notes failing to be copied along with body text
  • total loss of basic wp data, such as indents, spacing, etc.
  • copying of text failing to include the above coding
  • fonts inlcuded in the note input window not displaying in the note pop-up
  • erratic and unexplainable variations of serif and sans serif text in note pop-ups even though the text in note input window is uniformly sans serif.
  • in the mobile app, some note pop-up windows refuse to scroll; I've even edited a note, then tried to open and scroll through the pop-up only for it to be "locked", meaning I can't scroll down to the Edit Note link to re-edit the note I just finished editing.
  • availability of scrolling function in mobile app notes w/o similar function in desktop app
  • other issues I know I'm overlooking

These are "smash the button and shut down the production line" concerns. FL CANNOT LET THESE ISSUES PASS...these are core features whose absence and disappearance BREAKS the program. These issues MUST be fixed TODAY...not tomorrow. NOW.

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Jack Hairston | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2021 7:13 AM

Some expandable lists have a Collapse All button.

The table of contents for Bibles does not. Once parts of the contents are expanded, only chapter numbers are visible, making it difficult to find the next book you want to jump to. The code exists. It's just a cut-and-paste to fix this.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2021 10:47 AM

Jack Hairston:

Some expandable lists have a Collapse All button.

The table of contents for Bibles does not.

In fact, no ToCs do, which for me can be a pain navigating around various reference resources.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2021 1:10 PM

SineNomine:
In fact, no ToCs do, which for me can be a pain navigating around various reference resources.

Please make the suggestion on Feedbear ... it's a very good point.

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Jack Hairston | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2021 1:13 PM

I already suggested this in the Logos user feedback site. Long ago.
Does the Logos consider that feedback when fixing/adding functionality?

(As a retired software engineer, I realize how hard it is to keep up with the wish lists of users.)

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