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Richard Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 3 2021 6:13 AM

This file should do the job. The instructions for using it are the same as those previously in this thread for creating a personal index of Bible studies.

The Personal Book that is created will contain all the books you own of which Spurgeon is listed as an author, that is the books in the Library of Logos that are listed when you use the filter author:Spurgeon. This may or may not be what you are interested in. But it is easy for me to create a modified version of the program that can make the personalised Personal Book based on any filter string. If there is enough demand for such a feature, I could add an option to my program to input a filter string before creating the DOCX file for the Personal Book.

5100.IBS Spurgeon.zip

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nl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 3 2021 12:37 PM

Thanks Richard,

I discovered that instead of print/exporting the Library, I can do the same process with any collection and it works. So now I have exported a "Devotional" collection which is very handy as now I can be reading verse and then go see what devotional I have on it. Now I have gone and bought 7 new devotional books Smile

Really happy that I can have indexes, very helpful and I appreciate your help!

EDIT:

I seem to have an issue that has me baffled, making the first "devotiona index" worked fine, now that I've gone and bought a bunch more books, downloaded them, added them to the same collection, and followed the same process, the end result is the exact same resources as before I got the new ones.

I've tried the process half a dozen times now and make sure that the XML file has the new resources. It seems that as soon as I use the program, the new rtf file doesn't have the new resources. I've tried making a couple of different collections, one with some new books and some old and only the old ones show up, and even one with only new books which results in a completely empty rtf file. I've tried reinstalling the program and just can't make any progress. Any ideas?

(I am on Mac by the way)

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Richard Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 3 2021 2:49 PM

I'm not sure, but it might be that I don't own the new books you just bought, which means that I can not index them and that they are not in the Index of Bible Studies, neither my complete one nor the personalised subset.

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nl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 3 2021 3:07 PM

Oh, I thought it was going by the XML file I created? So it goes by books inside the program that belong to you rather than what I upload in the file?

For example, I had 365 Days with Spurgeon Volume 1 which worked fine, but now I bought volumes 2-6 and they don't work.

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Richard Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 4 2021 7:54 AM

nl:

Oh, I thought it was going by the XML file I created? So it goes by books inside the program that belong to you rather than what I upload in the file?

For example, I had 365 Days with Spurgeon Volume 1 which worked fine, but now I bought volumes 2-6 and they don't work.

What happens with the personalised lists is that my program that can be downloaded in this thread goes through my Index (which is incorporated in the program), checks every book against your library (on the Mac, using the XML file), and if the book is owned it is added to the personalised list. The books aren't actually indexed by the program; I create the index manually (using only the books I own, obviously), and the program creates the subset of the index with the owned book. In other words, the personalised list contains only books that belong to me and what you upload in the file.

In fact, I have Volume 1 of 365 Days with Spurgeon, but not the other volumes.

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nl | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 4 2021 12:02 PM

Ok that makes sense, well that was an expensive mistake Big Smile

At least I can still use it with several devotionals, you must have a very large library!

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Richard Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 5 2021 5:19 AM

Don't forget that there is a 30 day no questions asked refund policy...

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 14 2021 10:00 AM

Richard ..... I thank you for your work with this. Great tool. But...

Some of us came from WordSearch and as such we have many of our books preferenced with WordSearch connotations such as:

"https://ref.ly/logosres/ws-22653ac812e44ebc9b65d2cfc627e236?ref=Bible.Jas"

I think the reason for this is to maintain licensing issues. Some of my WordSearch books were just replaced with Logos equivalent and some were not (best I can make out).

while most of your references are like: "https://ref.ly/logosres/hardsay?ref=Bible.Jas1.2"

Which means most or at least some of my books do not work.

I tried to work thru it to get WordSearch books to work... but I seem to be missing something...

I tried it with the url  and with the xml but no luck.

What am I missing here?

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 14 2021 10:46 AM

xnman:
What am I missing here?

The WS-xxxxxxxxxx resources have been created by Faithlife from book files they got from WordSearch. They were - some still are - not available in Logos before and thus they can't be part of Richards tool (which only contains books he owns/had access to and manually put into the PB source).  

If you want those WS-xxxxxxxxxxx resources to be part of the tool, you'd have to arrange for Richard to have access to them and wait until he - if he likes to do so - puts them into the file. Alternatively you can create such parts by hand and merge them into the source file and maybe even share that here.

Running Logos 9 latest (beta) version on Win 10

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 14 2021 11:00 AM

NB.Mick:

The WS-xxxxxxxxxx resources have been created by Faithlife from book files they got from WordSearch. They were - some still are - not available in Logos before and thus they can't be part of Richards tool (which only contains books he owns/had access to and manually put into the PB source).  

If you want those WS-xxxxxxxxxxx resources to be part of the tool, you'd have to arrange for Richard to have access to them and wait until he - if he likes to do so - puts them into the file. Alternatively you can create such parts by hand and merge them into the source file and maybe even share that here.

Sounds like I have some work to do... or to add to what I already up to my eyelashes with!

Thanks!

Edit: If I get it to work, I'll share it.  If someone else gets it done... hope they will share.

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 14 2021 3:52 PM

This is for WordSearch books.

Took me a few tries but I think I found it.  Use the L4 link and it worked.

I haven't figured out yet how Richard found all the book indexes  but I think there is a way. Could be a simple search program. But I'll work on that another time.

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 14 2021 8:43 PM

xnman:
I haven't figured out yet how Richard found all the book indexes  but I think there is a way. Could be a simple search program. But I'll work on that another time.

I would love to know how Richard compiled this program.  It would be a thrill if we knew how to add resources to be captured in the compilation.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 14 2021 10:04 PM

What would be even better would be if Faithlife took over maintaining this index (as they didfor denominations) so that it covers everyone's collections. Anyone who uses this index should feel obligated to vote for Index of Biblical Studies | Faithlife

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Richard Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 15 2021 3:30 AM

The previous comments are correct: I need to have a copy of a book before I can add it to the index. I did own a few Word Search books, but not many. A couple of exceptions:

- some of the sermon collections were done by others, that I then included in my file (even though they are now included in the Passage Guide in the "Sermons" section, but that section of the Passage Guide did not exist when I started)

- I took the one month free trial of Logos/Verbum Connect and Now, to temporarily have a larger library, and indexed as many of those books as I could in a month, so they are included even though I don't own them now

How do I do it? When I get a new book, I go through it looking for discussions of passages. This can be a bit arbitrary. For a book of sermons or devotionals it is fairly easy, I just take the Bible reference of every sermon/devotion. However, for a theology book I usually just look for references in the table of contents. (I haven't actually read all these books to find the lengthly discussions rather than a passing reference.) For each entry to add, I click on the appropriate section in the Table of Contents pane, then click on the main pane and hit the CTRL+ALT+C key combination. (You need to check in the menu with three vertical dots in the top right of the pane that "Copy location as" is set to L4.) Then in my DOCX file I use a text search to find the Bible reference, work out where, amongst the lines with the same Bible reference, it should go (there is more or less an order I follow according to the type of book), and then type something like

Rom 1:1 qwe

then paste the reference from Logos (in this case, logosres:jamesdale;ref=Page.p_261), then type ]]

When I have done all the references in a book, I do a global search and replace to change all the qwe into

[[The Epistle of James and Other Discourses >>

or whatever the name of the book is.

If someone else indexes books that I do not (and have not ever) owned, I can insert them into my file. As I said, I have already done that with some sermon collections.

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 15 2021 5:16 AM

MJ. Smith:

What would be even better would be if Faithlife took over maintaining this index (as they didfor denominations) so that it covers everyone's collections. Anyone who uses this index should feel obligated to vote for Index of Biblical Studies | Faithlife

Great suggestion MJ.  I'll vote for it! I would add.... that Logos just have a way of building the index file and then allowing us to edit it.

One thing that I have learned from what Richard did (and what Richard did is Amazing as it adds so much to the research capability of Logos)... is that I can build an index that is personal to me... for instance...

In the docx file...  it can be set up such that it tells what the reference is about.... i.e "Ephesian Introduction" or "Outline of Ephesians". The actualy L4 link determines what resource and where in the resource the reference is ... i.e. "logosres:ws-0-771;art=40.a3" .

And the 3rd entry is actually where I tried a "Cross Reference Passage Guide" and it worked! Which leads me to think that any resource in Logos can be referenced as long as you can get a L4 link. I did this in a docx file and then compiled it and it works like a charm! So... once compiled... and I want to find an Outline of Ephesians ..... then I open up "Xnmans Index" and search for "Ephesians" and bingo...   I think I'm being simplistic here but I see many things this could be used for.... 

Eph 1:1 [[Ephesian Introduction >>logosres:ws-0-771;art=r50.a3]]

Eph 1:1 [[Outline of Ephesians >> logosres:ws-0-771;art=r50.a3]]

Eph 1:1 [[Cross References >> logos4:Guide;t=System_Guide_Customizations:_Cross_References_(Bible_Reference);ref=BibleNKJV.Eph1.1]]

Needless to say.... I think this is exciting. I have not used Personal Books much... but this has changed my mind.

AND then we need to get PBs in the mobile app!!  Geeked

Thanks Richard!!

 

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 15 2021 5:39 AM

Mark:

I would love to know how Richard compiled this program.  It would be a thrill if we knew how to add resources to be captured in the compilation.

I believe the process is the same for creating a Personal Book. You might google how to build a personal book in Logos.

I created a simple Word .docx file.... put info in it and saved it with a name.

Then I opened Logos.... clicked "Tools" then "Personal Books"  to open that resource.

Then click "Add book" put in a "Title" then click "Add file" .... then search to find the .docx file you saved... open it, and it will load the .docx file ....

Then click on "Build book".   Depending on the length of the .docx file and the processor and ram that you have... it may take some time.. But eventually the "Title" you gave it will show up in your "Personal books" list... then just click on it and enjoy.

It goes without saying..... that there are rules and such that the complier works with.... and Ihave not learned all them.... but when all goes well... your new PB will be available.

All changes (for now) are made in the Word .docx file.... and then you just "re-complile"...

Edit:  As to adding resources to the .docx file.... see the posts before this one. I think that will help you.

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 18 2021 5:13 AM

Richard --- Love what you did!!!

Your search file to build the rft file does not do or work with files from WordSearch. And some people like me... which have about 80% (estimated) of my files from WordSearch... then when I do run the search engine my final .docx file is very small in comparison.

I don't think it's legal to"loan" you my WordSearch files.... to build the search engine with.... I would if I could. But I, like others have a binding agreement with Logos and WordSearch to use the files for me..... Maybe someone knows of a way?????

But a big "Thank You" for opening the door for me. I'll go through my library as I study and such and add my WordSearch files as I go.

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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Richard Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 19 2021 4:45 AM

xnman:
Your search file to build the rtf file does not do or work with files from WordSearch. And some people like me... which have about 80% (estimated) of my files from WordSearch... then when I do run the search engine my final .docx file is very small in comparison.

It does not work with resources that I have not indexed, ie books that I do not have (which includes most WordSearch books) and that no-one has sent me the index for. As you said, you can not loan me your WordSearch files. The only possibility is for you or someone else to create the index for the books (I just need the Bible references and the L4 links created by CTRL-ALT-C) and then sending it to me. Then I can include them in the file I distribute.

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 20 2021 5:20 PM

Richard Wilson:

It does not work with resources that I have not indexed, ie books that I do not have (which includes most WordSearch books) and that no-one has sent me the index for. As you said, you can not loan me your WordSearch files. The only possibility is for you or someone else to create the index for the books (I just need the Bible references and the L4 links created by CTRL-ALT-C) and then sending it to me. Then I can include them in the file I distribute.

I have began workinng on such a file. I may be slow though... as I am covered up to my eyelids as they say. But I will work on it. Maybe other WordSearchers can also work on this and we can share.... I'm willing. Suggestion.... let's call the file "WordSearch Index file.docx" ???

I find most of the guides, Factbook and Topical Guide do not search most of my WordSearch books.... which makes having an index as you came up with all that more exciting to me. So, it's a two fold process.... Open Logos... Open WordSearch...  search in Wordsearch.... then open that book in Logos and search that book to find the place where the info is at, then build the url link.

Thanks again!  I'll post here when I have stuff in the "Wordsearch Index file.docx".

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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Richard Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2021 4:04 AM

xnman:
Thanks again!  I'll post here when I have stuff in the "Wordsearch Index file.docx".

It would probably be a good idea to post a "draft" after you have done a couple of books. That way I can check it, that it will be possible insert your work into my file.

Thanks in advance,

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