BUG and annoyances: Logos' bad memory

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Ann Boyles | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 26 2012 11:07 AM

Updates on two of these issues:

fgh:

I should have expanded that description a bit. I have one folder for backups. I always want my exports to go there. However, if I do an export, then I do something else that also requires locating a folder/file on the computer, then, the next time I want to do an export, the suggested folder is the one the latter file was in, not my backup folder. Typically this happens after I've added a .docx to create a PB, but I would assume it's the same if I e g use a file on the computer to create a Passage List.

We will not be implementing this.

fgh:

d) Favorites. Every time I open Favorites I also have to start by opening lots of folders that were already open when I last used it. Favorites could be so useful, but all this folder-opening makes it almost useless when one doesn't have screen estate enough to keep it open at all times. It takes so much time before you can click on what you want that it is usually faster to get it some other way.

This will not be implemented right now. You can increase the visibility for this on User Voice.

Thank you. I'll update you when I hear back on the other points you raised.

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Tonya J Ross | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 11:32 AM

Ann Boyles:

fgh:

  • Also, the new folder should, of course, be selected and ready for entering its new name. Wasn't that the case until recently? Now I have to either click twice, or right-click and choose Rename before I can name it. Can't remember having to do that earlier.

I'm not sure if or when this was possible on Mac, but automatically entering "rename" mode (as you describe) is the behavior on Windows. I have created a case for this.

This should be fixed in 4.6 Beta 2.

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Ann Boyles | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 29 2012 7:42 AM

fgh:
g) Collections. I have layouts where the Collections tab turns up with a particular collection chosen, so at one point Logos did remember my setting. Now, however, it seems impossible to update those layouts to show other collections instead, and equally impossible to create a favorite opening to a particular collection.
This issue is fixed in an upcoming release.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 2 2012 12:50 PM

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fgh:

a) Print/export. Virtually every time I want to print/export I have to change US Letter to A4 (the setting stays put during one session, but reverts to default on restart). I very much doubt that I will ever use US Letter -- I don't even know what it looks like -- so why am I stuck with it? (And why, by the way, doesn't the print/export window close by itself? How likely is it that I want to print the same thing twice?)

Logos 4.5c Beta 3 on Mac and PC appears to keep print/export setting (e.g. A4).

Unfortunately, neither 4.5c nor 4.6 has fixed this for me.

Ann Boyles:
fgh:
c) Favorites. Every time I open Favorites I have to start by collapsing Bookmarks, so that I get enough space to see the folders.

I was unable to reproduce this in 4.5c Beta 4; once I collapsed the Bookmarks section in my Favorites panel, it persisted that way.

Unfortunately, neither 4.5c nor 4.6 has fixed this for me.

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fgh:
e) Favorites. When I've finally gotten all folders like I want them, then all I have to do is to click New Folder and, voilà, one or more folders close again! Crying (Happens very often, but not always.) This one, at least, has got to be a bug!

Logos 4.5c Release Candidate 1 keeps folder(s) open when creating a new folder.

Confirmed fixed in 4.6; don't know if I ever checked in 4.5c.

BUT the second part of the bug is still there:

fgh:
This bug also occurs when deleting a favorite.

Tonya J Ross:
fgh:

  • Also, the new folder should, of course, be selected and ready for entering its new name.

This should be fixed in 4.6 Beta 2.

I can confirm that this is fixed for me, but there are others on the forums reporting that they can't name or rename folders at all.

Ann Boyles:
fgh:
g) Collections. I have layouts where the Collections tab turns up with a particular collection chosen, so at one point Logos did remember my setting. Now, however, it seems impossible to update those layouts to show other collections instead, and equally impossible to create a favorite opening to a particular collection.

I have created a case for this the inability to update layouts. There is an existing case for not being able to create a favorite which opens to a particular collection.

Looking forward to the favorite fix promised for 4.6a, but wondering if the Layout issue has been fixed as well?

 

fgh:
b) Library. When I close down with the Library open, I would wish it opened the way I left off, but currently I can't even make my choices stick in a saved layout. E g yesterday I created a specific Layout to create PB's in. It included the Library sorted by Last Updated and had edition:user in the reference box, so that I would only see the PB's -- but, of course, when I next opened it, both of those settings were gone. 

fgh:

  • What I really would like would be to be able to select a folder before clicking and get the new folder added as a subfolder to that one, instead of at the bottom of the list.

fgh:
h) Collections. Sort a collection by Type or anything else that shows up collapsed. Open one section. Drag an item to Minus these resources. The section collapses, and has to be opened again before dragging the next item! Crying  (Thankfully, this does not happen in Library, when dragging to Prioritize or Hidden Resources.)

fgh:
Ah! Now I get it. They seem to have 'forgotten' to add a box for selecting how many copies you want... Smart. So if you want more than one, you either have to click Print several times, or, if you want more than a few, export to pdf instead, so that you can print from there. Well, the solution to that isn't to keep the window open, it's to add that missing box. 

Not yet fixed.

 

Ann Boyles:
fgh:
I should have expanded that description a bit. I have one folder for backups. I always want my exports to go there. However, if I do an export, then I do something else that also requires locating a folder/file on the computer, then, the next time I want to do an export, the suggested folder is the one the latter file was in, not my backup folder. Typically this happens after I've added a .docx to create a PB, but I would assume it's the same if I e g use a file on the computer to create a Passage List.

We will not be implementing this.

Can't say I'm that surprised about this one.

Ann Boyles:
fgh:
d) Favorites. Every time I open Favorites I also have to start by opening lots of folders that were already open when I last used it. Favorites could be so useful, but all this folder-opening makes it almost useless when one doesn't have screen estate enough to keep it open at all times. It takes so much time before you can click on what you want that it is usually faster to get it some other way.

This will not be implemented right now. You can increase the visibility for this on User Voice.

This, on the other hand, really did surprise me. How is this not a bug? It goes completely against the standard in both Finder and every other Mac program I can think of, plus, as I said, it makes Favorites essentially useless.

And surely you must know as well as I that putting small things like this on Uservoice is meaningless. Only big things have any chance of collecting enough votes to make a difference.

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Thinking | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 3 2012 5:12 AM

fgh:

This, on the other hand, really did surprise me. How is this not a bug? It goes completely against the standard in both Finder and every other Mac program I can think of, plus, as I said, it makes Favorites essentially useless.

 

Why were you surprised? Being Mac-like matter has never mattered in Logos. Sigh. I like many of the features in Logos, but it is a Windows program with a Windows philosophy and mentality. I have accepted that fact. Fortunately, for my daily study and biblical work I have an alternative that is a Mac program. If I HAD to choose just one program, it would not be Logos. I have always found Logos employees to be helpful and I am glad to have Logos available on the Mac as a supplemental program for occasional use. I monitor the Mac Logos forum and run Logos nearly every day, just to make sure the downloads and updates with indexing are all up to date—that way, if I really want to use the program, it is available, and I don't have to wait a prolonged period of time when I first start Logs up.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 7 2012 4:46 PM

Bump. Especially for the issues that were supposedly fixed, but aren't.

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 8 2012 3:53 AM

fgh:
Especially for the issues that were supposedly fixed, but aren't.
It seems that you are surprised at this (issues not being fixed).

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2012 2:29 AM

The last couple of releases fixed a few things, which I was pleased about.  Some things seem a bit snappier, so I don't know if that is just my imagination or some optimisation work going on.

That being said, I have found three formatting errors and crashed it outright when I clicked 'DONE' on the information window. Some of these issues I have reported, some I just have not had time.  How long has 4.6 and 4.6 SR-1 been out?  I've got some work today to do and more than likely I will find at least one more problem. It seems when one thing gets fixed, another gets broken.

My biggest annoyance of what has been broken is the default font in notes. All my notes are huge now. New notes that I form are ok, but why you would blow up everyone's notes, I have no clue. Super Angry

 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2012 1:29 PM

tom collinge:
It seems that you are surprised at this (issues not being fixed).

I am never surprised at things not working in Logos, only annoyed. What would surprise me would be being able to do one full hour's work without encountering a single bug. That's never happened so far. Usually in that time I find about 5 new bugs, besides the older ones that have pestered me for months or years.

Donovan, I'm afraid I can't figure out what your post has to do with the issues this thread is dedicated to. I presume you meant it for another one?

 

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Ann Boyles | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 13 2012 7:34 AM

fgh:
e) Favorites. When I've finally gotten all folders like I want them, then all I have to do is to click New Folder and, voilà, one or more folders close again! Crying (Happens very often, but not always.) This one, at least, has got to be a bug!

This has been fixed in 4.6a when creating a New Folder and deleting a folder.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 7 2012 11:20 AM

Ann Boyles:

fgh:
e) Favorites. When I've finally gotten all folders like I want them, then all I have to do is to click New Folder and, voilà, one or more folders close again! Crying (Happens very often, but not always.) This one, at least, has got to be a bug!

This has been fixed in 4.6a when creating a New Folder and deleting a folder.

Confirmed fix using Logos 4.6a Beta 4 on OS X 10.8.2

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 3:32 PM

fgh:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
fgh:

a) Print/export. Virtually every time I want to print/export I have to change US Letter to A4 (the setting stays put during one session, but reverts to default on restart). I very much doubt that I will ever use US Letter -- I don't even know what it looks like -- so why am I stuck with it? (And why, by the way, doesn't the print/export window close by itself? How likely is it that I want to print the same thing twice?)

Logos 4.5c Beta 3 on Mac and PC appears to keep print/export setting (e.g. A4).

Unfortunately, neither 4.5c nor 4.6 has fixed this for me.

Nor has 4.6a.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 3:33 PM

fgh:

Ann Boyles:
fgh:
c) Favorites. Every time I open Favorites I have to start by collapsing Bookmarks, so that I get enough space to see the folders.

I was unable to reproduce this in 4.5c Beta 4; once I collapsed the Bookmarks section in my Favorites panel, it persisted that way.

Unfortunately, neither 4.5c nor 4.6 has fixed this for me.

Nor has 4.6a.

Has there ever even been a case filed for this?

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 3:38 PM

fgh:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
fgh:
e) Favorites. When I've finally gotten all folders like I want them, then all I have to do is to click New Folder and, voilà, one or more folders close again! Crying (Happens very often, but not always.) This one, at least, has got to be a bug!

Logos 4.5c Release Candidate 1 keeps folder(s) open when creating a new folder.

Confirmed fixed in 4.6; don't know if I ever checked in 4.5c.

BUT the second part of the bug is still there:

fgh:
This bug also occurs when deleting a favorite.

 

Ann Boyles:
This has been fixed in 4.6a when creating a New Folder and deleting a folder.

No, it's still only partially fixed. Main folders remain open, subfolders still close.

And it still annoys me that all folders close when Favorites is closed, and have to be reopened the next time.

 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 4:39 PM

Ann Boyles:

fgh:
g) Collections. I have layouts where the Collections tab turns up with a particular collection chosen, so at one point Logos did remember my setting. Now, however, it seems impossible to update those layouts to show other collections instead, and equally impossible to create a favorite opening to a particular collection.
This issue is fixed in an upcoming release.

I can confirm that Layouts and Favorites now save with the correct Collection chosen. 

However, I was led to believe from Possible Mac Bug and certainly annoyance: Saving Collections on Favorites or Toolbar that shortcuts would also work, but they didn't. (I forgot to try via Favorites, though.)

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 5:46 PM

fgh:

fgh:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
fgh:
e) Favorites. When I've finally gotten all folders like I want them, then all I have to do is to click New Folder and, voilà, one or more folders close again! Crying (Happens very often, but not always.) This one, at least, has got to be a bug!

Logos 4.5c Release Candidate 1 keeps folder(s) open when creating a new folder.

Confirmed fixed in 4.6; don't know if I ever checked in 4.5c.

BUT the second part of the bug is still there:

fgh:
This bug also occurs when deleting a favorite.

Ann Boyles:
This has been fixed in 4.6a when creating a New Folder and deleting a folder.

No, it's still only partially fixed. Main folders remain open, subfolders still close.

Apologies: using Logos 4.6a SR-1 on OS X 10.8.2, unable to replicate:

Edit: renamed "New Folder" to "62 Mark", then dragged within "Biography & Historical" folder did close "65 Acts" folder.  In contrast, created a "New Folder" using Logos 4.6a SR-1 on Windows 7, renamed to "63 Luke", then dragged within "Biography & Historical" folder left "65 Acts" folder open.

Added an item to Feature Parity list => http://wiki.logos.com/Mac_and_PC_User_Interface_Differences#Feature_Parity

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 7:46 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Apologies: using Logos 4.6a SR-1 on OS X 10.8.2, unable to replicate:

Expanding Visual Filters subfolder, then clicking New Folder. Subfolder collapses:

Expanding Visual Filters subfolder, then deleting New Folder. Subfolder collapses:

 

Also noticed you seemed to have been able to create a folder directly within another folder, which I thought was still impossible on Mac, so I did some experimenting.

Clicking Filer > Create New Folder created a new folder at the bottom of Favorites, not within the Filer folder where it should have been:

Clicking Visual Filters > Create New Folder created a new folder within the Filer folder, not within the Visual Filters subfolder where it should have been:

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 8:02 PM

KS4J, does issue a) still work for you, like you claimed it did in 4.5c Beta 3? It never has for me, in any release.

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 8:07 PM

fgh,

You can drag the folder into a sub folder.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 28 2012 8:13 PM

fgh:

KS4J, does issue a) still work for you, like you claimed it did in 4.5c Beta 3? It never has for me, in any release.

Using Logos 4.6a SR-1 on OS X 10.8.2, printed a selection using A4 page setting, closed Print/Export, changed location in resource, choose Print/Export, which still has A4 page setting:

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