When is the MAJOR upgrade for VISUAL COPY coming?

mike

It has been awhile since its first release.. Can we please have the team update this.

This feature looks abandoned & very anemic.

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mike

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NB.Mick

It has been awhile since its first release.. Can we please have the team update this.

This feature looks abandoned & very anemic.

mike,

updates aren't done for the sake of updating.

I'm not sure what you mean by "looks abandonded & very anemic" and I'm not sure if others are better off in understanding this. So at least for me, there's no real use in you bumping your post.

Maybe many other users are very pleased with VC and would not like changes. Maybe many users use it only grudgingly (like it seems you are doing).
Maybe it's not used by many at all and would be a waste to develop further. Maybe it's not used by many at all because they are missing the one killer aspect that is not yet developed. Maybe it's used by everybody who would ever use it regardless of development.

In fact, Faithlife can't differentiate between the sub-groups within the bullets without further information.

From the forums, the only relevant issue with Visual Copy seems to be lack of user awareness regarding changeability of text in Verse-of-the-day artwork pieces, which are not differentiated in the UI from the VC templates. Whether this alone merits an update (and in which direction?) I'm not sure. Maybe Faithlife sees it mainly as a training issue that is best solved on the forums and done with it.

Other than that, some suggestions come up sometimes rather infrequently, some - as per my private, not representative and fully uninformed judgment - with more merit (allow custom templates), some with less (allow for a gazillion of characters instead of limiting at a point that is already much too unwieldy now).

So, you'd help your case much more if you would give examples of which updates you want (functionality, UI, the author/book/topic/... templates), what you are lacking in using it today and what updates would change your usage of it how.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/795198#Comment_795198

I believe that mike is referring to his previous feature requests for Visual Copy:

We don't have any news to share at this point about planned or upcoming improvements to Visual Copy.

mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/795238#Comment_795238

I believe that mike is referring to his previous feature requests for Visual Copy:

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/93173/685487.aspx#685487

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/114198/779170.aspx#779170

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/101204/699514.aspx#699514

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/103332/714456.aspx#714456

We don't have any news to share at this point about planned or upcoming improvements to Visual Copy.

Bradley,

This is really a sad news. The Visual Copy has been out for a long time but have not received any attention or care at all. Does no one use this at all, is that why??

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/800527#Comment_800527

The Visual Copy has been out for a long time but have not received any attention or care at all.

The same can be said for Handouts where pressure to make it into something Faithlife did not intend resulted in it's being deprecated. Or the same can be said for Sentence diagrams which simply gets minimal usage because of its limitations. The way to get it attention is to get a consolidated entry of specific high-priority features in Uservoice and get the votes to put it in the top 3-4 requests. It takes some work but it has been done successfully.

GregW

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/800527#Comment_800527

This is really a sad news. The Visual Copy has been out for a long time but have not received any attention or care at all. Does no one use this at all, is that why??

Speaking for myself, I only use it rarely to get quotes into Powerpoint presentations for preaching or teaching, and it's just fine for that as far as I am concerned. I wouldn't use it any more if they were to develop a whole lot of additional features for it. I like the way I can get an author-specific slide, so that if I'm using a Spurgeon quote I can get a picture of Spurgeon on the slide. I also don't want them developing a poor man's Powerpoint or Keynote: I've already got them, and don't think Faithlife is likely to better them. In fact, I'd prefer them to concentrate on making the "Copy Bible Verses" functionality a bit smarter (size for slide, split between slides, etc).

I wouldn't really want FL spending development effort on enhancing this feature when there are a great many other study-related features that are, to my mind, far more important (graphical search interface, enhancements to Notes, etc. But then, we probably each have our own list of the things we think are most important!

Tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/800539#Comment_800539

. I like the way I can get an author-specific slide, so that if I'm using a Spurgeon quote I can get a picture of Spurgeon on the slide.

This is the improvement I want now! [:D]

GregW

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/800572#Comment_800572

This is the improvement I want now!

It's already there. You might need Logos Now to get the media, but here's an example of precisely that with a random Spurgeon quote.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/800527#Comment_800527

The Visual Copy has been out for a long time but have not received any attention or care at all.

Logos 6 Release Notes included many Visual Copy entries last year (2015):

Logos 6.7 included New Feature

Added functionality for recently used slides to move to the top of the list.

plus two bug fixes

Fixed a bug that caused the application to crash when zooming on Windows.
Fixed bug that caused the buttons for ‘Fit’ and ‘Actual’ to not work on Windows.

Logos 6.6 included Bug fix

Fixed bug where “Save as image” didn’t work when saving a collection of slides on Windows (Thread)

Logos 6.5 included Bug fix

Fixed bug that caused Tony Evans slides to not appear at the top of the list when quoting from his resources. (Thread.)

Logos 6.4 included New Features

Added subtitle to Visual Copy items in Favorites and History panels.
Added warning when the selected text sent to Visual Copy is too large to fit in the slide.
Stock and static images now export in the highest resolution available.

Logos 6.3 included bug fixes

Fixed issue which was causing author-specific slides and those with author fields to not be at the top of the list. (Thread)
Opening Visual Copy with a text range from the Timothy Keller Sermon Archive no longer opens up the Timothy Keller “The Reason for God” smart media. (Thread.)

Logos 6.2 included New Feature

Added square media ratio 1:1 for Visual Copy.

plus three bug fixes

Opening Visual Copy with a text range from the Timothy Keller Sermon Archive (LLS:TMKLLRSRMNRCHVJ) will no longer open up the Timothy Keller “The Reason for God” smart media. (Thread.)
Multi-line paste is now supported in “Body Text” textbox. (Thread.)
Fixed bug that caused the sharing buttons to be disabled when opening a media item from Search.

There is still some media that is not sharable for copyright reasons.

Logos 6.1 included bug fixes

Slides sent to Powerpoint 2013 will now automatically expand to fit the slide size.

Note: This is not currently working for older versions of Powerpoint. There is a case for this issue.

The last chosen aspect ratio will now be remembered in Visual Copy. (Thread.)
Fixed bug that caused the Visual Copy to open to the Verse of the Day slide, instead of opening to a quote slide with the selected text. (Thread.)

Logos 6.0b included bug fixes

Fixed bug that caused “Send to” text to be missing in the context menu on Windows.
The dropdown menus “Save as” and “Send to” are correctly alphabetized.

Does no one use this at all, is that why??

Every Logos user has 10 votes for suggested improvements; can place up to 3 on one suggestion.

=> http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-5

Visual Copy has a number of UserVoice suggestions

8 votes => Visual Copy: Create a template slide (appears on page 10 of User Voice suggestions)

7 votes => Allow bulk visual copy integration with the clippings feature.

6 votes => Edit the visual copy.

4 votes => Visual Copy search/favorites

4 votes => Make Visual Copy basic templates available locally on the user's computer.

3 votes => have more editing options for the visual copy tool.

1 vote => could you repair the visual copy tool? It will not display any templates. Thanks!

1 vote => When using "Visual Copy" the ability to include for example, verse 1,6,12 rather than only 1-12

Keep Smiling [:)]

Myke Harbuck

I couldnt agree more!

Myke Harbuck

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/800527#Comment_800527

I love the concept, but it needs MAJOR work. Every time I use this feature (twice a week), I dream of a day when it will be more user-friendly. It has great potential.

I'd love to be able to download slides blanks locally as opposed to accessing from the cloud.

Would LOVE more edit capabilities (bold, larger font. font style) on the slides.

Would LOVE the ability to have VC produce slides for an entire passage at one time (1 verse per slide, 10 slides for 10 verses).

Sure hope they are planning on updating this feature for L7. Would be a real let down if not!

Bob Pritchett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/805203#Comment_805203

Sure hope they are planning on updating this feature for L7.

We know this is a popular feature, and people want more power and flexibility in Visual Copy. We're working on that.

FWIW, in the meantime, Proclaim has a richer slide editor, and if you 'Send to Proclaim' to use your slide there, you'll find more capabilities, including the ability to create 10 slides for 10 verses, etc.

BTW, why do you want the slides locally instead of via the Internet? Do you use this when offline, or just want improved speed? (We get the slides from the Internet because there are a lot of backgrounds and slides, and we're constantly creating new ones.)