Bringing Your BibleWorks User Content to Logos
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Good morning Gary (from Texas). Blessings on your service to the Lord in the Republic of Vanuatu. I pray you and your family are safe by our Lord's grace and blessings. I am new to Logos and have been looking for help for a while now to get my personal database and my OliveTree notes and highlights with correct colors into Logos. I am getting closer, but still no joy. I too am on a mac and so the "path" is not as intuitive as on a PC. I need help and am hoping you can share what you've learned about direct import, but I also am a Keyboard Maestro user and am very familiar with it. I am very intrigued by your KM solution. Could you please share it as well? I have not looked at doing it that way yet, but thought I could probably cut through a lot of trial and error in my effort with help from you. Again, blessings always. Tc
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Hi Thomas. Thank you for your kind words and greeting.
I have a version of Olive Tree that I have almost never used on my Mac. But I do not see where user information is stored. In BibleWorks, every note was a separate RTF file, though the extension was BWW. So I used a macro to rename each note file with something that would work in Logos. I think (it's been three years now) I then created a Keyboard Maestro routine to use the filename to find the corresponding reference in Logos, then go and get the contents of the BibleWorks note and copy the contents into the new Logos note. Then I enclosed the whole routine in a WHILE command, moving through each of the files one by one. It was very amateurish.Looking at the few notes that I have in Olive Tree, I am not sure how to go about copying them to Logos because I only see them in Olive Tree, and it opens and closes each note, not allowing you to navigate automatically through the notes. If there is a way to export the notes to a file, it might be easier. Otherwise, I'm guessing it will be a more manual note by note process.
I'm sorry that I don't have a better solution. Perhaps technical support would have an idea. The Lord bless you.0 -
Hi Thomas. Thank you for your kind words and greeting.
I have a version of Olive Tree that I have almost never used on my Mac. But I do not see where user information is stored. In BibleWorks, every note was a separate RTF file, though the extension was BWW. So I used a macro to rename each note file with something that would work in Logos. I think (it's been three years now) I then created a Keyboard Maestro routine to use the filename to find the corresponding reference in Logos, then go and get the contents of the BibleWorks note and copy the contents into the new Logos note. Then I enclosed the whole routine in a WHILE command, moving through each of the files one by one. It was very amateurish.Looking at the few notes that I have in Olive Tree, I am not sure how to go about copying them to Logos because I only see them in Olive Tree, and it opens and closes each note, not allowing you to navigate automatically through the notes. If there is a way to export the notes to a file, it might be easier. Otherwise, I'm guessing it will be a more manual note by note process.
I'm sorry that I don't have a better solution. Perhaps technical support would have an idea. The Lord bless you.0 -
Hi Thomas. Thank you for your kind words and greeting.
I have a version of Olive Tree that I have almost never used on my Mac. But I do not see where user information is stored. In BibleWorks, every note was a separate RTF file, though the extension was BWW. So I used a macro to rename each note file with something that would work in Logos. I think (it's been three years now) I then created a Keyboard Maestro routine to use the filename to find the corresponding reference in Logos, then go and get the contents of the BibleWorks note and copy the contents into the new Logos note. Then I enclosed the whole routine in a WHILE command, moving through each of the files one by one. It was very amateurish.Looking at the few notes that I have in Olive Tree, I am not sure how to go about copying them to Logos because I only see them in Olive Tree, and it opens and closes each note, not allowing you to navigate automatically through the notes. If there is a way to export the notes to a file, it might be easier. Otherwise, I'm guessing it will be a more manual note by note process.
I'm sorry that I don't have a better solution. Perhaps technical support would have an idea. The Lord bless you.0 -
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Hello again, and thank you again for getting back to me and for sharing your process to load your BibleWorks content into Logos. I found that if you log into your Olive Tree account on the web, there is an option there to download your content to a CSV file. It is this content I am trying to reconfigure to the BibleWorks .rtf format for importing into Logos. I am making progress as I figured out how to get my notes from the Olive Tree format to the BibleWorks format. If I may trouble you once more please, can you share with me a BibleWorks .bww or .rtf file that includes highlighting details. I have come up blank trying to figure it out and I have hundreds of highlights I'd like to preserve.
One other request, if you still have your Keyboard Maestro macro that you used to update Logos highlighting, can you please send it to me in text form. If you select all of the steps in your macro and then right click on them, you can copy the steps as text and paste it into a reply to me. I can learn a lot from your efforts if the work wasn't deleted. No worries if it has been.
With that, I want to thank you again for getting back to me and I pray you have a wonderful weekend with Palm Sunday celebrations. And if I don't hear back from you before Easter, I pray you have a blessed one with such comforts knowing He id risen!!!!
Blessings brother, Tc
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Hi Thomas,
This link may have some help: https://www.logos.com/bibleworks. Here's the pertinent content:
How Do I Import BibleWorks Notes into Logos?
You can now import BibleWorks notes into Logos using the new Notes tool. Here's how it works:
- Type “import BibleWorks notes” in the Command box and press Enter. (If your notes are stored in a custom location, type “import BibleWorks notes from [path]” in the Command box and press Enter.)
- Logos will import your notes and store them in a new notebook titled “Imported Notes.” Depending on the volume of your notes, this may take some time.
- To find the notes you’ve imported, click Tools > Notes. Open the Notes tool sidebar and search for “Imported Notes.”
KEYBOARD MAESTRO
I think this is the macro that I used, but I'm not sure how helpful it is. It's a "quick and dirty" macro just made to serve my one-time purpose, and I doubt that the positions on my screen will correspond to your screen. I used a different macro to repeat this macro. NOT VERY PRETTY!
Delete Past Clipboard 0
Notify on failure.
Delete Past Clipboard 1
Notify on failure.Activate Finder
Notify on failure.Type the Return Keystroke
Type the ⌘C Keystroke
Type the Escape Keystroke
Activate Logos
Notify on failure.Pause for 1.5 Seconds
Notify on failure.Move and Click
At (112,140) from the top left corner of the front window.
Stop macro and notify on failure.Pause for .5 Seconds
Notify on failure.Type the ⌘A Keystroke
Pause for .5 Seconds
Notify on failure.Type the ⌘V Keystroke
Type the Return Keystroke
Type the ⌘Tab Keystroke
Activate Finder
Notify on failure.Pause for 1 Second
Notify on failure.Select Menu Item in Finder
Select: File ⇢ Open
Stop macro and notify on failure.Activate TextEdit
Notify on failure.Pause for 1.5 Seconds
Notify on failure.Type the ⌘A Keystroke
Type the ⌘C Keystroke
Type the ⌘Q Keystroke
Activate Logos
Notify on failure.Move and Click
At (1351,141) from the top left corner of the front window.
Stop macro and notify on failure.Move and Click
At (1250,873) from the absolute position.
Stop macro and notify on failure.Pause for 2 Seconds
Notify on failure.Type the ⌘V Keystroke
Type the ⌘Tab Keystroke
Activate Finder
Notify on failure.Pause for .5 Seconds
Notify on failure.Type the Down Arrow Keystroke
Type the Escape Keystroke
Type the Escape Keystroke
Pause for 3 Seconds
Notify on failure.
I've attached a Heb6.rtf file while maintained the colored font when copied to Logos. I think it was probably named Heb 6.rtf during the transition so that Heb 6 could be copied into the active search field and a new note could be created.7612.Heb6.rtf
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Hi Thomas - Did you ever figure out the structure of the BibleWorks files? I'd like to import some other data into Logos as notes. The BibleWorks import seems like the only way to do it, but I don't know what the structure of the BibleWorks notes files was. If you could help me, I'd be grateful.
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Hello, Ethan.
I imported my Bibleworks notes last year without any problem. Bibleworks notes files are rich text files with a .bww extension instead of an .rtf extension. The key to importing chapter and verse notes is to maintain the folder and naming scheme that was used by Bibleworks. There is no internal designation for chapter and verse inside the file, unless you added it yourself.
If you have any more questions, let me know.
Robert
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Windows 11 -- Max
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Thanks Robert,
So the RTF file would just have the text of the note? What about the name of the file to the left of the extension? Was that used for anything?
Can you give me an example of the directory structure? Was it as simple as:
C:\[BibleWorks_Directory]\John\3\16
What about books with numbers preceding them? Maybe 1_John, 2_John?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated.
Ethan
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Let me put together some examples, and I'll get back to you on this.
Robert
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Windows 11 -- Max
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Sorry for the delay Ethan. See if this helps. If I'm not being clear, let me know and I'll follow up with more information.
I’m including a file. The first column contains the name of the bible book, the second contains the abbreviation that Bibleworks uses (and that Logos will expect).
A little background to make sure we are all on the same page.
There are three types of notes in Bibleworks:
Editor notes – these are generic notes. They aren’t linked by Bibleworks to any book, chapter, or verse. You can give them any name you want. Logos will import them without anchors. Be aware, the file name will not be visible after import.
Chapter notes – these are notes that are linked to a particular book chapter. They must have a name of the form [Abbreviation][Chapter #].bww. Look up the abbreviation in the file. Most of them will be the first three letters of the book.
Examples: John 3 = joh3.bww; 1 Corinthians 4 = 1cor4.bww.
Verse notes – linked to a particular chapter and verse. These notes are kept in subfolders that have the abbreviation name of the book. In the subfolder are files that are named as [Chapter #]_[Verse #].bww.
Examples: John 3:16 = the subfolder will be named Joh, and the file in the folder Joh will be named 3_16.bww.
Logos will import chapter notes and verse notes and assign anchors to them.
Note that Logos will expect the files to have a .bww extension.
You may know this already. To import, place notes in a convenient folder, ex: C:\Import Notes. Then, in command box enter (without the quotes) "import bibleworks notes from" followed by the path to the Import Notes Folder. For example, "import bibleworks notes from C:\Import Notes". Logos will do its thing, (it will take a while, depending on the number of notes) and in a bit the notes will appear in the Imported Notes notebook. If you already have Imported Notes, it will be named Imported Notes (2), etc.
All of the chapter and verse notes will have anchors to the correct location.. The editor notes won't, since Bibleworks doesn't explicitly associate any note with a book chapter or verse, except through the naming convention used by chapter and verse notes.
If you look at the notes, there may be some non-functional hyper links. This is what Bibleworks uses to navigate to other files, and even to allow pop-ups of the bible references. Logos can't make use of those, so it just leaves them alone. You can go ahead and remove any hyperlinks.
One thing I've also noticed is that any graphics included in the BIbleworks files don't survive the import.
Let me know if this works for you. If my explanation is too confusing, let me know, and I'll try to clarify.
Robert
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Windows 11 -- Max
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Sorry for the delay Ethan. See if this helps. If I'm not being clear, let me know and I'll follow up with more information.
Here is a list of books. The first column contains the name of the bible book, the second contains the abbreviation that Bibleworks uses (and that Logos will expect).
Book, Abbreviation
Genesis, Gen
Exodus, Exo
Leviticus, Lev
Numbers, Num
Deuteronomy, Deu
Joshua, Jos
Judges, Jdg
Ruth, Rut
1 Samuel, 1Sa
2 Samuel, 2Sa
1 Kings, 1Ki
2 Kings, 2Ki
1 Chronicles, 1Ch
2 Chronicles, 2Ch
Ezra, Ezr
Nehemiah, Neh
Esther, Est
Job, Job
Psalm, Psa
Proverbs, Pro
Ecclesiastes, Ecc
Song of Solomon, Sol
Isaiah, Isa
Jeremiah, Jer
Lamentations, Lam
Ezekiel, Eze
Daniel, Dan
Hosea, Hos
Joel, Joe
Amos, Amo
Obadiah, Oba
Jonah, Jon
Micah, Mic
Nahum, Nah
Habakkuk, Hab
Zephaniah, Zep
Haggai, Hag
Zechariah, Zec
Malachi, Mal
Matthew, Mat
Mark, Mar
Luke, Luk
John, Joh
Acts, Act
Romans, Rom
1 Corinthians, 1Co
2 Corinthians, 2Co
Galatians, Gal
Ephesians, Eph
Philippians, Phi
Colossians, Col
1 Thessalonians, 1Th
2 Thessalonians, 2Th
1 Timothy, 1Ti
2 Timothy, 2Ti
Titus, Tit
Philemon, Phm
Hebrews, Heb
James, Jam
1 Peter, 1Pe
2 Peter, 2Pe
1 John, 1Jo
2 John, 2Jo
3 John, 3Jo
Jude, Jud
Revelation, RevA little background to make sure we are all on the same page.
There are three types of notes in Bibleworks:
Editor notes – these are generic notes. They aren’t linked by Bibleworks to any book, chapter, or verse. You can give them any name you want. Logos will import them without anchors. Be aware, the file name will not be visible after import.
Chapter notes – these are notes that are linked to a particular book chapter. They must have a name of the form [Abbreviation][Chapter #].bww. Look up the abbreviation in the file. Most of them will be the first three letters of the book.
Examples: John 3 = joh3.bww; 1 Corinthians 4 = 1cor4.bww.
Verse notes – linked to a particular chapter and verse. These notes are kept in subfolders that have the abbreviation name of the book. In the subfolder are files that are named as [Chapter #]_[Verse #].bww.
Examples: John 3:16 = the subfolder will be named Joh, and the file in the folder Joh will be named 3_16.bww.
Logos will import chapter notes and verse notes and assign anchors to them.
Note that Logos will expect the files to have a .bww extension.
You may know this already. To import, place notes in a convenient folder, ex: C:\Import Notes. Then, in command box enter (without the quotes) "import bibleworks notes from" followed by the path to the Import Notes Folder. For example, "import bibleworks notes from C:\Import Notes". Logos will do its thing, (it will take a while, depending on the number of notes) and in a bit the notes will appear in the Imported Notes notebook. If you already have Imported Notes, it will be named Imported Notes (2), etc.
All of the chapter and verse notes will have anchors to the correct location.. The editor notes won't, since Bibleworks doesn't explicitly associate any note with a book chapter or verse, except through the naming convention used by chapter and verse notes.
If you look at the notes, there may be some non-functional hyper links. This is what Bibleworks uses to navigate to other files, and even to allow pop-ups of the bible references. Logos can't make use of those, so it just leaves them alone. You can go ahead and remove any hyperlinks.
One thing I've also noticed is that any graphics included in the BIbleworks files don't survive the import.
Let me know if this works for you. If my explanation is too confusing, let me know, and I'll try to clarify.
Robert
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Windows 11 -- Max
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