What resources would you most like to see available in Logos?
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Stephen Ornelas said:
I guess what i'm asking, is are these covered in any one Plan of Logos 5? Am i being too overzealous in my quest for study. I'm looking at the plans and all I see from the list is a reference to Early Christian Fathers. I wonder to what degree these early Christian works are made available in Logos 5. I hear many people say that Logos 5 is worth every penny, and that spurs on my smile, and thought that if i make an investment in scripture, i can't go wrong, unless i just don't read. while I hear others look at me like i'm trying to purchase every language that Rosetta Stone offers. Should i just stick with the next language i'm looking to learn (eg: purchase a lighter plan and just start to fall in love with LOGOS gradually?) or is it better - given that the search factors in the specific questions you are looking for - to just dive into the faith and absorb as much as i can before i come up for air?
The sets you mention above are what Logos calls "Early Church Fathers". For some more information about the Logos version, please see the product page at http://www.logos.com/product/5771/early-church-fathers-protestant-edition They are included in Silver and up collections.
As far as picking a package? The higher level packages are expensive, but they do include a lot of resources - including a lot of standard reference works that to purchase in any format would be expensive. You know what you can afford financially. In general, Logos tries to make the bigger packages into bigger deals, but how "good" those deals are is dependent on what you are interested in.
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- The 1966, 1967, 1968 Jerusalem Bible Reader's Edition. Or the 1975 Bible in Order. Suggested in: Jerusalem Bible or 1975 Bible In Order
- James by Richard Bauckham (not available in Logos, expensive) - New Testament Readings -series
... it has been suggested by fgh: Commentaries on the Deuterocanonicals and OT/NT Apocrypha - The best text-critical edition of the Latin Bible (it's not the Nova Vulgata). The end-of-2011 Oxford Encyclopedia of the Books of the Bible says that it's: Editors Robert Weber, Roger Gryson et al. (2007). Biblia Sacra iuxta vulgatum versionem. 5th Ed. Stuttgart: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft.
- a book that says which verses in the Bible speak to the clergy only
- Biblical Archaeology Review newest issues
- 2004 Good News Translation 3rd Edition UK English Edition, suggested in: 1992 GNT-CE 2nd ed. preferably with Anglicized text and 1971 GNB 3rd...
- New Standard Bible. It's a light linguistical revision of the RSV, including many Apocryphal books: Read about the New Standard...
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C.S. Lewis materials.
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,NB.Mick said:Stephen,
welcome to the Logos user forums.
The resources you mention are part of the ECF collection available in a protestant and a catholic edition:
- http://www.logos.com/product/5771/early-church-fathers-protestant-edition and
- http://www.logos.com/product/7832/early-church-fathers-special-catholic-edition
you'll see to the right of the screen the L5 packages where each of the two are contained. The Amazon Hardcover prices are ridiculous, given the fact that the Logos versions are searchable, linked and linkable etc.
Hope this helps,
Mick
Mick,
Thank you very much - this answers my question, and i appreciate it greatly. [:D]
I hadn't seen that the Early Church Fathers came in two different sets: Protestant Edition & Catholic Edition. What's more is there is a link that shows me the authors in the sets. I love it! Thank you thank you thank you. PS: Thank you LOGOS 5. I think this just helped me make my decision. One last question - is all this content accessed via online search database through LOGOS 5, or is actually downloaded to the device itself?Guided by Him,
Stephen
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If You want the Catholic Edition, one option is to buy a minimum base-package at http://www.logos.com/verbum that contains it - if You want the additional books/Bibles.
With very few exceptions all content is downloaded to Your internal drive (Logos 5 can't be installed on an external drive) and then indexed. After that You don't need an internet connection, You access Your books from the drive. For faster search response an SSD might be a good investment.Stephen Ornelas said:I hadn't seen that the Early Church Fathers came in two different sets: Protestant Edition & Catholic Edition.
The only exceptions are the Faithlife Community that's on the internet and a few items that come on a CD or DVD, such as Catholic Practicum: Learn to Use Logos Bible Software, Biblical Archaeology Review collection (up to 2005, not sold anymore on the logos site, can perhaps be purchased second-hand), The Essential IVP Reference Collection Version 3 (if purchased second-hand (cheaper), Learn to Do Word Studies with Logos Bible Software, Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software, Introducing New Testament Discourse Grammar: Video Series, but all those can be copied to the HDD or SSD, as I've understood it an external one will function.Stephen Ornelas said:One last question - is all this content accessed via online search database through LOGOS 5, or is actually downloaded to the device itself?
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Celebration of Discipline--Richard Foster
Knowledge of the Holy--A.W. Tozer (I don't know why this isn't in the Tozer collection)
Foxe's Book of Martyrs (Searched Logos.com for this a few days ago and was very surprised not to find it).
Christian Counseling material from the integrationist perspective.
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Foxe's Book of Martyrs was available in Libronix through another company, but I'm not sure if it still is?
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Mathew Voth said:
The unabridged Hebrew-Aramaic Lexicon!!!
I believe he was referring to : http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/
I would also like to see this, along with:
1. New English Translation of the Septuagint (NETS)
2. More patristics in Greek
3. Lampe's Patristic Greek Lexicon
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I would love to see this too. My absolutely favorite devotional and the updated version would be so awesome adapted for Logos! Has anybody from Logos responded to this request with answers about timing, copyright or other information?Jerry Bush said:Jerry Bush said:My Utmost For His Highest - the updated edition that was put out in the 90's with the NIV as the base text.
Still waiting on this.
Jerry
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Aaron C. Fenlason said:
2. More patristics in Greek
Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Graeca (167 vols.)
You just need to find enough bidders to get it into production.[:)]
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And if you are looking for items to use up the rest of your Lottery winnings try:
Be sure to also get Migne's monumental work on the Latin Fathers, the Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Latina (221 vols.). And to round out your collection of the church Fathers in their original languages, don't forget the Patrologia Syriaca (vols. 1-2) and Orientalis (vols. 1-14, 16) which contain the Arabic, Armenian, Coptic, Ethiopic, Greek, Georgian, Slavonic, and Syriac writings of the Fathers of the Eastern Church.
[[see the foot notes at the end of the Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Graeca (167 vols.) listing]]
[[On the other hand - WOW]]
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Martin Sacks said:
I would love to see this too. My absolutely favorite devotional and the updated version would be so awesome adapted for Logos! Has anybody from Logos responded to this request with answers about timing, copyright or other information?Jerry Bush said:Jerry Bush said:My Utmost For His Highest - the updated edition that was put out in the 90's with the NIV as the base text.
Still waiting on this.
Jerry
Martin - I have been asking for this since the old newsgroup days (before this forum). I have never gotten an answer one way or the other from Logos.
Jerry
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Here would be my wishlist:
1. C.S. Lewis
2. More N.T. Wright
3. More Eugene Peterson
4. More ... um ... ANY Greek Orthodox (to me the biggest gap in Logos offerings)
5. George MacDonald
6. Malcolm Smith
7. Baxter Kruger
8. Tolkein
9. Jacques Ellul
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Brandon Vaughn said:
5. George MacDonald
Just wanted to make sure you're aware of the George MacDonald PB in the Files forum.
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I did a quick search Foxe's Book of Martyrs, My-utmost-for-his-highest, and Tozer-Knowledge-Of-The-Holy.
Can all be found as a pdf on many websites. they could be converted to a pbb.
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None of these will ever be in Logos, but one can always dream of them:
1. Muraoka: Classical Syriac: A Basic Grammar with Chresthomathy
2. Sokoloff: A Syriac Lexicon
3. Fischer: A Grammar of Classical Arabic
4. Wright: A Grammar of the Arabic Language
5. Wehr: Arabic-English Dictionary
6. Moscati: An Introduction to Comparative Grammar of Semitic Languages
7. Lipinski: Semitic Languages: Outline of a Comparative Grammar
8. Lambdin: Introduction to Classical Ethiopic
9. Leslau: Comparative Dictionary of Ge'ez
10. Leslau: Concise Dictionary of Ge'ez
11. Huehnergard: A Grammar of Akkadian (3rd ed.)
12. A Concise Dictionary of Akkadian
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Niko said:
None of these will ever be in Logos, but one can always dream of them:
For the most part I would agree that these are desirable works to have, but I would disagree regarding the "concise" versions. It isn't as though we're going to walk around with these in an attachè case so why have a concise version?
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The price tag was 200 dollars if I rememberer correctly for the comparative one so I thought concise is better than nothing.
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All Bibles currently in pre-pub or community pricing especially the collection of older English translations and the REB.
The Community Bible
The apocrypha section of Bibles that include it but have excluded in Logos
Important early translations - Georgian, Armenian, Gothic, Anglo-Saxon (partial), Old Church Slavonic, ...
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all books by Richard B Hays...Echoes of Scripture; Moral Vision of God; The Faith of Jesus Christ; The Conversion of the Imagination
all Books by NT Wright and Gordon Fee and Michael Gorman
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MJ. Smith said:
Important early translations - Georgian, Armenian, Gothic, Anglo-Saxon (partial), Old Church Slavonic, ...
Pre Vulgate Latin Versions [hopefully in English but the Latin versions would be a start]
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I would like to see all ebooks by Apologist Ravi Zacharies.
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Invitation to Biblical Preaching: Proclaiming Truth with Clarity and Relevance (Invitation to Theological Studies)
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NT Wright How God became King; Justification; Simply Jesus
Richard B Hays Echoes of Scripture; Moral Vision of the NT; A Conversion of the Imagination
Gordon Fee; Paul, The Spirit and the People of God
Michael Gorman: Cruciformity
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CNTTS!!!!!!!
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Okay, so it has been over a year and a quarter since I made my contribution to this thread, it is worth looking at how well Logos has responded to my list.
First the journals.
Stephen Edward Paynter said:Okay, this is easy ...
all the good academic journals not already available, but especially:
- Journal for the Study of the New Testament (JSNT)
- Journal for the Study of the Old Testament (JSOT)
- New Testament Studies (NTS)
- Novum Testamentum (NT)
- Vetus Testamentum (VT)
- Journal of Biblical Literature (JBL) - The early missing years
Quickly followed by:
- Biblica
- Bulletin for Biblical Research
- Scottish Journal of Theology
- Scottish Journal of Systematic Theology
- Biblical Interpretation
- Interpretation
- Havard Theological Review
- Journal of Theological Studies
- Theology
- Theology Today
- Zeitschrift für die Alttestamentliche Wissenschaft
- Zeitschrift für die Neutestamentliche Wissenschaft und die Kunde der Älteren Kirche
Also some of the missing "evangelical" and "Reformed" journals from the Galaxie collections, such as:
- Calvin Theological Journal
- Evangelical Quarterly
Unfortunately, none of these have been able to be added to Logos. This a pity, as Logos searching is so much better than that provided my the various databases of journals available on the web. I realise that adding these resources will depend upon the publishers, but I hope logos continue to badger these publishers. It is not as if Logos would sell these products particularly cheaply.
Now we turn to classic scholarship on Acts.
Stephen Edward Paynter said:Also, I would love more classic scholarship books on Acts. First and foremost:
- Foakes Jackson and Krisopp Lake's, "The Beginnings of Christianity Part 1: The Acts of the Apostles" (5 volumes;
- Vol. 1 Prolegomena (1920);
- Vol. 2: Prolegomena Criticism (1922);
- Vol. 3 The Text (1926);
- Vol. 4 Translation and Commentary (1933);
- Vol 5 Additional Notes (1933)
- Then there is the book that made scholars take Luke-Acts seriously as a single work in 2 volumes:
- Henry J. Cadbury, "The Making of Luke-Acts", 2nd Edition, 1958 (1st Edition, 1927)
- Leander E. Keck and J. Louis Martyn (eds), Studies in Luke-Acts (in honour of Paul Schubert), Fortress Press (Philadelphia), 1966.
- A modern supplement of Jackson and Lake's is the Eerdmans Series "The Book of Acts in its First Century Setting"
- Vol. 1 The Book of Acts in its Ancient Literary Setting, Winter and Clarke (eds) - 1994
- Vol. 2 The Book of Acts in its Graeco-Roman Setting, Gill and Gempf (eds) - 1994
- Vol. 3 Paul in Roman Custody, Rapske, 1994
- Vol. 4 The Book of Acts in its Palestinian Setting, Bauckham (ed) - 1995
- Vol. 5 The Book of Acts in its Diaspora Setting, Levinskaya - 1996
- Witness to the Gospel: The Theology of Acts, Marshall and Peterson (eds) 1998.
- Also highly desirable are following conservative works:
- Colin J, Hemer, The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History", Eisenbrauns (Winona Lake: Indiana), 1989
- W. Ward Gasque, A History of the Interpretation of the Acts of the Apostles, Wipf and Stock Publishers (Eugene: Oregon, 1989
I know there is a collection of 31 classic commentaries on Acts which should be delivered soon, http://www.logos.com/product/15838/classic-commentaries-and-studies-on-the-acts-of-the-apostles, These are welcome. Furthermore, there is the Fortress press collection on pre-pub: http://www.logos.com/product/30096/fortress-press-studies-in-luke-acts. This contains the classic collection of papers by Deblius and Tennenhils excellent two volume work on the narrative unity of Luke-Acts. Both extremely welcome, and arguable should have been on my original list. When these are available on Logos a good step in providing some decent Acts scholarship will have been taken. However, until all the volumes I mention above, the Logos library will remain seriously weak with regard to Acts scholarship.
When we turn to scholarship on the New Perspective on Paul, we see some important advances which are to be warmly welcomed.
Stephen Edward Paynter said:Some of the important pro- and con- New Perspective on Paul resources, including:
- Krister Stendahl's Paul Among Jews and Gentiles
- J.D.G. Dunn's collection of papers, "The New Perspective on Paul"
- N.T. Wright's "Climax of the Covenant"
- Justification and Variegated Nomism", Baker Academic, 2001, 2004. (Edited by Carson, O'Brien and Seifrid).
- Stephen Westerholm, "Perspectives New and Old on Paul: The Lutheran Paul and his Critics"
Krister Stendahl's "Paul among Jews and Gentiles" and E.P. Sanders important work "Paul the Law and the Jewish People" are included in a pre-pub collection which is gathering interest, http://www.logos.com/product/29485/paul-and-pauline-theology-collection.N.T. Wright now has a 34 volume collection, http://www.logos.com/product/8576/n-t-wright-collection, which includes his "Paul: Fresh Perspectives" (also available separately). Plus there is his new collection of studies on Paul, http://www.logos.com/product/29160/paul-and-the-faithfulness-of-god, which looks like it contains a volume which will subsume much of "Climax of the Covenant". Furthermore, there is his "Justification: God's Plan and Paul's Vision". http://www.logos.com/product/30283/justification-gods-plan-and-pauls-vision, which is going into production.
This means that the pro-NPP is now well supported, although it would be strengthen by adding Dunn's collection of papers I mentioned above.
Unfortunately, con-NPP resources have not kept pace. There is a collection of Pauline studies, http://www.logos.com/product/23093/baker-academic-pauline-studies-collection, which includes the important works: Paul and the Jews, and Paul, the Law and the Covenant, both by A. Andrew Das, and T.R. Schreiners, "The Law and Its Fulfillment: A Pauline Theology of Law." (This collection also strengthens Acts scholarship, by including T.E. Phillips, "Paul, His Letters and Acts")
I note that the helpful collection of papers on justification (including papers by Gathercole and Wright), Justification in Perspective: Historical Developments and Contemporary Challenges edited by Bruce L. McCormack, is included in the collection http://www.logos.com/product/25832/baker-academic-theological-studies-collection, currently being developed. Hopefully this will soon be broken out from its fellows once it has been published.
However, Logos needs other anti-NPP works, most notably the ones I mentioned above, but others are available.
Now we turn to other works, including works of classic philosophy and the early church father's in their original languages.
Stephen Edward Paynter said:I would also love to see the some works of classic philosophy:
Pre-Socratics; Plato; Aristotle; Descartes; Locke; Rousseu; Hume; Berkeley Kant; Russell; Ayer; Gilbert; Austin e.t.c.
The Church Fathers in Greek and Latin
Oh, and Francis Turretin's "Institutes of Elentic Theology" (in English!)
Spurgeon's Sword and Trowel volumes that deal wih the Downgrade Controversy
It is great to see so many works of philosophy in commnity pricing ... this is fantastic, and very exciting.
Furthermore, there are important collections of the Church Fathers in their original languages also in community pricing .... One can only hope that enough interest will be generated to make these important works available in the digital age.
Not so important, but still of interest would be the English version of Turretin's Institutes, and Spurgeon on the Downgrade controversy. The latter is an important look at how one stands for historic Christianity in an age when scepticism is encroaching on the church. Surely it will be needed again.
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Matthew and John Commentaries by Dale Bruner.
All four volumes of IVP OT dictionary set.
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Paul Yeager said:
All four volumes of IVP OT dictionary set.
Absolutely. The Wisdom and the Prophet Dictionaries are out in print, but I'm waiting for them in Logos, where they will be so much more useful. I don't know what is up with IVP ... why haven't they released the BST old testament commentaries in Logos yet?
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