Wordsearch Moving to Logos Bible Software
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Kolen Cheung said:
I found that the book id is 0:1725. Thanks.
Your licenses should be available now, including all the Tozer volumes: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/catalog
Please let us know if anything appears to be missing.
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Kolen Cheung said:
Actually may be I have access to it in the beginning. WORDsearch showed it as "Tozer on Christian Leadership" but Logos showed it as "Tozer for the Christian Leader".
Thanks.
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Almost a week later and still none of my Wordsearch titles have migrated to Logos (according to https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration, which I check regularly).
Should I be concerned? How many users are still waiting?
Thanks
Chris
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Chris Wylie said:
Almost a week later and still none of my Wordsearch titles have migrated to Logos (according to https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration, which I check regularly).
Should I be concerned? How many users are still waiting?
Please see my update on timing here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193953/1118644.aspx#1118644
We did not expect this to take so long, and apologise for the delay, but we're processing the license backlog right now.
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Colin Ware said:
I don't wish to sound negative but I wake up on 20 September with this 'fait accompli' Wordsearch moving to Logos Bible Software.
My concern relates to handling customer information. On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not. So my questions are:
1. What other information may have been used to support this and to compare customer detail? and;
2. What safeguards were/are in place with the transfer of information?;
3. It maybe some detail in a profile did not wished to be shared in this way so how is it protected?
Nowhere in the documents listed could I find reference to privacy information ( I am happy to be corrected).
Do not get me wrong. I have used both programs for many years and understand there are benefits in the 'transition' although speaking personally it will prove difficult.
Getting back to my concerns, both WS and Logos have privacy policies. Is it possible for some Logos official to comment on how these policies guided the transition; the affects privacy the transition has and confirm that arrangements meet the privacy policy of both organisations.
Thank you in anticipation.
Colin Ware
I don't understand about the privacy concern here. Logos (Faithlife) acquired WORDsearch and therefore whatever info you revealed to WORDsearch should be and has to be available to Faithlife (else how can they make the transition for you?)
May be what you want is some sort of consent. The only thing they did that is slightly scary is the auto-merging of the 2 libraries but then they said that you can request them to undo this.
I think they want to make it as seamless as possible and at the same time as it is not an irreversible process that I think it is as good as it can be.
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Colin Ware said:
On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not.
Rather than sharing the data, I think it is more accurate to say the data was sold to Faithhlife Inc. together with the responsibility to provide certain functions and products that LifeWay would no longer provide. Put another way, LifeWay sold the contract that you had with LifeWay to Faithlife ... similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:Colin Ware said:
On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not.
Rather than sharing the data, I think it is more accurate to say the data was sold to Faithhlife Inc. together with the responsibility to provide certain functions and products that LifeWay would no longer provide. Put another way, LifeWay sold the contract that you had with LifeWay to Faithlife ... similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.
Well said, MJ 👍😁👌
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MJ. Smith said:
similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.
Which has much more sensitive info.
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David Taylor Jr said:MJ. Smith said:
similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.
Which has much more sensitive info.
Why even worry about it? Most people have already had their identity stolen and they don’t even know it!
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so trueDAL said:Why even worry about it? Most people have already had their identity stolen and they don’t even know it!
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Wearing a tin foil hat will allow one to blend into the general population and keep an identity secret. [;)]
Joseph F. Sollenberger, Jr.
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Also, we do plan to start selling these books on logos.com soon. We have a few things to do before we can offer them for sale.
Good Morning Mr. Ben... any updates on selling these in the Logos store? Maybe a WordSearch Flash Sale?
Wasn't sure what the timeline was on selling some of them. Thanks!0 -
Don't suppose we'll get a weekly free book today. 😉😉
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The weekly free books were nice!Paul Caneparo said:Don't suppose we'll get a weekly free book today. 😉😉
We pretty much get that, but all up front as it is.
Verbum, Logos, faithlife ebooks, etc.
This thread shows much of that:
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193901.aspx
You could probably add a thousand volumes or so (perseus if you're into OL Studies) to your logos library if you add them all today.L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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abondservant said:
The weekly free books were nice!Paul Caneparo said:Don't suppose we'll get a weekly free book today. 😉😉
We pretty much get that, but all up front as it is.
Verbum, Logos, faithlife ebooks, etc.
This thread shows much of that:
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193901.aspx
You could probably add a thousand volumes or so (perseus if you're into OL Studies) to your logos library if you add them all today.I was a Faithlife customer anyway. Most of my WordSearch books were the free ones!
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David Taylor Jr said:
so trueDAL said:Why even worry about it? Most people have already had their identity stolen and they don’t even know it!
So not true. If you've ever been in the identity-business, the sloppy people are best. And in the future, re-creating you is best with the most. The old joke about the bear and 2 hunters will always be 'so true' ... nothing is perfect; just be better than the next guy (or gal).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Colin Ware said:
Getting back to my concerns, both WS and Logos have privacy policies. Is it possible for some Logos official to comment on how these policies guided the transition; the affects privacy the transition has and confirm that arrangements meet the privacy policy of both organisations.
Your personal information was handled in accordance with Faithlife's privacy policy. We used email address as the key to associate Wordsearch user data with Faithlife systems. Data was transferred over encrypted channels and shared only with the personnel required to perform the import into our systems.
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Superb!
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Implementation of LessonMaker Questions for Adults.
Can you do this in two phases?
Phase 1) Just get the questions out there.
Phase 2) Do it the best way.
And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers (Mal 4:6a)
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Do we have any idea how soon this incorporation will take place? It seems like it would be a simple indexing issue, but I'm a pastor, not a coder. This has been an expensive transition and this is a feature I use regularly. It isn't saving me time right now. PLEASE HELP. thanks.
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when?
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Chad Garinger said:
Do we have any idea how soon this incorporation will take place? It seems like it would be a simple indexing issue, but I'm a pastor, not a coder. This has been an expensive transition and this is a feature I use regularly. It isn't saving me time right now. PLEASE HELP. thanks.
I think it might be easiest for you to continue to use your working WORDsearch first and until they migrated all the resources you need (check the link they have about your migrated library), where most of them should be done by the end of year.
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Kolen Cheung said:Chad Garinger said:
Do we have any idea how soon this incorporation will take place? It seems like it would be a simple indexing issue, but I'm a pastor, not a coder. This has been an expensive transition and this is a feature I use regularly. It isn't saving me time right now. PLEASE HELP. thanks.
I think it might be easiest for you to continue to use your working WORDsearch first and until they migrated all the resources you need (check the link they have about your migrated library), where most of them should be done by the end of year.
I was thinking the same. My WordSearch is still working perfectly, although I'll admit I used Logos 99.9% of the time and only used WordSearch for resources I couldn't buy in Logos or which were ridiculously cheap in WordSearch.
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I wish I had taken that approach now. But at the time, I hated the WordSearch software (still do) and would pay the extra $$ to get the Logos version.....Paul Caneparo said:or which were ridiculously cheap in WordSearch.
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David Taylor Jr said:
I wish I had taken that approach now. But at the time, I hated the WordSearch software (still do) and would pay the extra $$ to get the Logos version.....Paul Caneparo said:or which were ridiculously cheap in WordSearch.
I wish I'd bought a few more now from WordSearch!
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Chad Garinger said:
Do we have any idea how soon this incorporation will take place?
For clarification, you are referring to the incorporation of the Word Search "Lesson Maker" feature. I am not a Word Search user and don't know how that feature worked. From my understanding, it was a tool and not a "book." FL hinted that they would be looking in to how best to incorporate that feature in the future... no promises and no deadlines.
Chad Garinger said:This has been an expensive transition and this is a feature I use regularly. It isn't saving me time right now. PLEASE HELP.
If the "lesson maker" feature is something you depend upon, you would be best advised to keep using Word Search for the time being.
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I could be wrong, but from everything I have read up until now, the Adult Questions for Lessonmaker will definitely be brought over as a resource, and I concur it is an important one, but the functionality of the tool part is still under review as to how best to incorporate into Logos if at all.
Thanks, Carla
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I would like to hear from someone from Faithlife about the exact nature of that transition. I would also hope that the web app for Wordsearch will still work until they complete the transfer process.
It looks like it would be a simple e-book with Logos tagging functionality which would be good enough for me. If they plan to do something more complex, I'd like to know.
At present, the LessonMaker Adult Question Index ebook states:
Adult Questions Index
Please note:
This topical index has been incorporated into Adult Questions for LESSONmaker. To find topics in this book (and others!), please use the Topical Search feature in your program.
A clarification or update would be helpful.
Adult Questions Index for LESSONmaker (WORDsearch, 1992).
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jimerwin/ - a postmodern pastor in a digital world
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Here is the link:
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193801/1116866.aspx#1116866
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