New Insights Sidebar on the web app
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I like this feature very much! Please do bring it to desktop and mobile.
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I agree with these sentiments.
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Now that Logos doesn't show it by default, I like the Insights Sidebar better. If I open it, it will be to answer questions like, "what else does someone say about this passage?" In other words, secondary questions. The primary questions are purely textual and contextual within the Bible itself.
Most of my time in Logos is spent studying the Bible itself in various languages. Other Logos panels support this better than the Insights panel could, and without taking space away from the primary subject of my study. But for those resources that are are other books (Luther's Works, for example), I might consider enabling the Insights Sidebar at times to look for more information about cross references, allusions, definitions, etc.
Thanks for striving to improve Logos!
(The improvement I would love to see more than anything would be a version of Logos capable of running in my usual Linux environment without a live Internet connection. Wine is kludgy and prone to break. Internet connections can be too. Eliminate distro dependency support nightmares with something like flatpak or snap.)
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Keep it, very helpful for quick referencing
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Blessings in Christ.
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Yes, very helpful to this new user! It is very informative and useful to not only have it immediately viewable, but it changes with each verse automatically. I would suggest having more content and customizable. The additional sidebar is perfect for the desktop and web apps, possibly would not fit on the mobile app in a way to be helpful.
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I like this feature.... this is something that needs to stay...very, very useful.
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I would rather have the option of opening my five highest prioritized commentaries for a specific text from the context menu!
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Michel Pauw said:
I would rather have the option of opening my five highest prioritized commentaries for a specific text from the context menu!
Because I hate having many tabs open at the same time, I use parallel resources heavily -- so I already have this feature [8-|] [;)]
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MJ. Smith said:Michel Pauw said:
I would rather have the option of opening my five highest prioritized commentaries for a specific text from the context menu!
Because I hate having many tabs open at the same time, I use parallel resources heavily -- so I already have this feature
I actually mean that you can directly access your commentaries from the context menu, which currently isn't the case. In the same way that you can add a note to one of the 5 notebooks you opened last, we should have an option of opening any of our five highest prioritized commentaries from the context menu.
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Michel Pauw said:
I actually mean that you can directly access your commentaries from the context menu, which currently isn't the case. In the same way that you can add a note to one of the 5 notebooks you opened last, we should have an option of opening any of our five highest prioritized commentaries from the context menu.
In the asbence of this capability at the moment, you can get close by creating a Custom Guide that just shows your five highest prioritised commentaries and using that from the Lookup menu. It doesn't open them but it makes them one click away (technically the custom guide will provide access to move than the top five but I've set it up to just show five at a time)
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:PL said:
Aren't they conceptually basically the same thing, just a slightly different implementation?
Conceptually they're similar.
Apart from the fact that Insights is much easier to find and turn on, the most important difference is that Explorer links you to useful content, whereas Insights brings the content (or most of it, at least) directly into the sidebar. It's more glanceable.
We're also planning to bring some new content into Insights that isn't currently available in Explorer.
It's possible that if we bring Insights to desktop, we might deprecate Explorer so there aren't two very similar tools. If we did that, is there anything you'd especially miss or want to see copied across to Insights?
I just discovered this today! I like it but it doesn't seem like it has a lot of info in it yet. It only pulled up 2 study bibles for me
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I like it, keep it!
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I like it, keep it!
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I like the easy visibility, I don't have to go open something else. I use it every time I use the web version. Make this so it can be enabled or disabled on the app for the MacBook.
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I LOVE IT! This is just what I need for training the Bible translators in our program! Is there a way to extend the amount of the commentary shown in the sidebar so that we can view a fuller range of the commentary without needing to open it in a new tab?
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Yes, it is helpful.
Yes, I can see myself using it.
Changes? At times, I thought it would be useful about having more than two resources.
But I ask myself if I would have sufficient screen size for more then two resource?
Additional Information: See Q+A immediately above.
I mostly use Logos on my larger screen associated with my laptop. I rarely use Logos on my mobile phone. But I do use it on my Kindle Fire device.
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I think it's a great option, and if someone doesn't like it they can close it, but it appears there are enough who like it. I've found it useful to spot somethings to look at further here and there.
I kind of wish it were in the full app, I went looking but it's not there.
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Hi
Im new to Logos 10 on the PC but have used the web app since 2015. This maybe me being stupid but I cant find the insights functionality of the web app within logos 10?
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Hi Mark - and welcome to the forums
Mark Bell said:This maybe me being stupid but I cant find the insights functionality of the web app within logos 10?
Currently the insights capability isn't available on desktop - is that where you were looking for it? (Sorry, I wasn't totally sure from your question)
Sometimes Logos tests out new functionality on the web app before bringing to desktop (or deciding not to)
Graham
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Yes Graham; I was looking for it within the PC desktop version of Logos 10
Thanks for your help
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Thanks Graham, I hope its migrated as its probably my favorite feature
I seem to be missing some related books in the both the commentary and bible study sections. Some have auto populated in the list of available. Does anyone know if I can update insights with the missing resources I have available manually?
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Mark Bell said:
I seem to be missing some related books in the both the commentary and bible study sections. Some have auto populated in the list of available
That sounds strange - can you give some examples of books you are missing?
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So under study bibles the DIY one not showing, study like a pro isnt there (
Under Commentary, Matthew Henry's, Holman guidebook
Although to be fair im unsure of the criteria required to be included in these sections with some material having overlap etc
Im aware of the bug showing foreign language versions so just ignore those
Thanks for your help Graham
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Mark Bell said:
So under study bibles the DIY one not showing, study like a pro isnt there (
- Study Like a Pro is classed as a monograph
- DIY is classed as Bible Study as opposed to Study Bible!
Mark Bell said:Under Commentary, Matthew Henry's, Holman guidebook
- Matthew Henry's commentary should qualify but - like you - I don't see it
- I'm not sure which Holman book you are referring to
Both of the lists seem to be cut at 20 books - so my guess is that we have at least 20 relevant commentaries prioritised above Matthew Henry's.
So I think the selection process is working correctly - any issues are, I think, related to either classification or prioritisation.
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Graham Criddle said:
Both of the lists seem to be cut at 20 books - so my guess is that we have at least 20 relevant commentaries prioritised above Matthew Henry's.
So I think the selection process is working correctly - any issues are, I think, related to either classification or prioritisation.
I think you're right; I do have the MH commentary in the first 20, and it's showing up.
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Maybe I should read the DIY
Typically MH is now showing but its in French! Im aware this is a known bug and is presumably being worked on
Thanks for the input guys
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Yes, on the web app, we're only showing the first 20 Commentaries or Study Bibles. These cards are not intended to show Bible Study or Handbook resources.
That said, unless you've specifically prioritized them, you should see those in your preferred language before seeing any in other languages. (By preferred language, I mean the language Logos is currently set to use in the Settings panel.)
If that's not what you're seeing, a screenshot would help.
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I like it. I think this could be handy for quick study, glancing at the text and getting a general feel, idea about it. Yes you could always open up a commentary or whatever else, but for a quick look, I would use it.
SUGGESTION: It needs a way to easily click to the next verse in the "Insights" section. I was looking at Daniel 4. In order to have the insights refresh from 4:1 to 4:2, you had to scroll v.1 completely out of the frame to see insights for 4:2, which also took some of 4:2 out of the frame. This is unhelpful and the tediousness of this would make me use Insights less regularly.
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