Official: Update for Faithlife Connect subscribers
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:Armin said:
I assume I can already sign up for Logos Pro right now and enjoy the "free month". Whenever FL then transfers my subscription this week (or next week?), it all happens without any additional cost. Is this correct?
Yes, if you didn't want to wait a few days, you could do that.
Would it be possible to post here once the change is made?
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Robert C. Beckman Jr. said:
Will I have access to all the language tools that I have now? Because the allure of Connect was all features. I also note that the quoted price is $350.00 a year, struck through with an additional quote of $129.99 a year.
If you move to Logos Max, then yes. If you stay on Logos Pro, then some advanced original language tools will be missing.
Robert C. Beckman Jr. said:How long will the latter pertain? is it permanent?
As with all subscriptions, we will review prices from time to time, but we have no current plans to increase the price of either the normal track or the discounted track.
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Jeremy White said:
I currently have FLC No Library, which will not be renewed until early January 2025. So, if I do nothing; at some point this week, I will begin to get access to the Logos Pro features, but on my subscription page, it will still say FLC Connect Essentials - No Library. Then, at some point in the next few months, I will be migrated to the Logos Pro subscription (so when I look at my Subscription page, that is what it will say), and in January, I will pay $99 to continue on that new subscription. Correct any of these details I might have wrong.
Yes, that is correct, except, to be exactly precise, it's $99.99.
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Mattillo said:
Would it be possible to post here once the change is made?
Yes, I'll do that. I'm hoping we'll get it done tomorrow (Wednesday).
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:Mattillo said:
Would it be possible to post here once the change is made?
Yes, I'll do that. I'm hoping we'll get it done tomorrow (Wednesday).
Mark, thank you. Thank you very much.
-Jonathan
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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That’s my question also
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Mike, if you cancel Max you won't lose anything right now but the extra books included in Max.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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mike said:
I seriously can't keep up what's going on with Logos' subscriptions whenever I visit the forum.
1. So which one do I cancel? the Max or the Connect Essentials?
My understanding from what Mark wrote was that Logos would do everything on their end - if I was in your shoes I wouldn't cancel anything and let them sort it out (and potentially also fix errors made in the first round by going over it again).
Have joy in the Lord!
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NB.Mick said:mike said:
I seriously can't keep up what's going on with Logos' subscriptions whenever I visit the forum.
1. So which one do I cancel? the Max or the Connect Essentials?
My understanding from what Mark wrote was that Logos would do everything on their end - if I was in your shoes I wouldn't cancel anything and let them sort it out (and potentially also fix errors made in the first round by going over it again).
You are right for the lower two tiers. But Mark specifically said that they will not automatically cancel Max subscriptions in his first post.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Excellent news thank you.
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I’m not able to be in the forums as much as I used to. So I’m very out of the loop. This thread really hasn’t helped or been clear.
I’ve had FL Connect Essentials (no library) since it was Logos Now. What do I need to do to have the highest level subscription (Max?), and when do I need to do it?
Thanks!
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Donnie Hale said:
I’m not able to be in the forums as much as I used to. So I’m very out of the loop. This thread really hasn’t helped or been clear.
I’ve had FL Connect Essentials (no library) since it was Logos Now. What do I need to do to have the highest level subscription (Max?), and when do I need to do it?
Thanks!
Hi Donnie - I'll do my best here:
If you do nothing, you will be migrated over to Logos Pro sometime this week (perhaps as early as today per Mark Barnes).
Pro will meet the needs of most pastors and teachers.
As for Max, it depends on how much in-depth original language studies you do. Pro will offer much of that, but Max is for those who do the in-depth stuff. So... it depends on your needs if you go to Max or not.Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage
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Donnie Hale said:
I’ve had FL Connect Essentials (no library) since it was Logos Now. What do I need to do to have the highest level subscription (Max?), and when do I need to do it?
In the first post in this thread Mark said:
Mark Barnes (Logos) said:If you're still a subscriber when we fully migrate Connect customers in the fall, you'll be migrated onto the discounted track of Logos Pro, which will be priced at $9.99/month or $99.99/year. At that point, you could choose to upgrade, downgrade, or cancel your renewal. We'll say more about that process nearer the time.
So when they migrate Connect customers you should move across to Logos Pro - at which point you could upgrade to Max if you wish?
Does that help?
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Thanks, Graham. I did understand what you replied with. What I don’t understand is w.r.t. Max. It sounds like it already exists, but I’ve never heard anything about it. It sounds as if I were already on it, I’d continue at that level. I know that’s where I want to be when everything settles. I’m not worried about the timing of my FLC renewal.
Thus my original question: What do I need to do to move to Max, and when do I need to do it?
Thanks again.
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can we see the the list of pro versus max anywhere?
I start Mdiv Herbew later this month
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Tony Walker said:
can we see the the list of pro versus max anywhere?
I start Mdiv Herbew later this month
https://www.logos.com/early-access/subscriptions
You can see the books list, but the features list isn't available as far as I'm aware.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Donnie Hale said:
Thanks, Graham. I did understand what you replied with. What I don’t understand is w.r.t. Max. It sounds like it already exists, but I’ve never heard anything about it. It sounds as if I were already on it, I’d continue at that level. I know that’s where I want to be when everything settles. I’m not worried about the timing of my FLC renewal.
Thus my original question: What do I need to do to move to Max, and when do I need to do it?
Thanks again.
Wait until they do the migration from FLC to Logos Pro. Once they do that switch, as per Mark Barnes, you'll be on Pro, then you can switch to Max.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Tony Walker said:
can we see the the list of pro versus max anywhere?
I start Mdiv Herbew later this month
Pro vs. Max would make no difference with seminary Hebrew, I'm quite sure. I would go with Pro and only make a switch if I needed to do so down the line.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bill Moore said:Tony Walker said:
can we see the the list of pro versus max anywhere?
I start Mdiv Herbew later this month
Pro vs. Max would make no difference with seminary Hebrew, I'm quite sure. I would go with Pro and only make a switch if I needed to do so down the line.
For right now, I am sticking with Pro. Max looks nice, but I am going to wait until the official launch to see what the feature differences are between the two. This would also be my recommendation to most people, unless there is something needed/very useful from the Max library.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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What do I currently lose by subscribing to Logos Pro and having the full set of Logos 10 features compared to Max?
Blessings in Christ.
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Tes said:
what do I loose currently as a subscriber of Logos Pro and having the Full set of Logos 10 Feautres compared to Max?
If you were to subscribe to Max, you would gain a larger temporary library of books. That is the only difference currently.
Soon there will be more differences. I expect Max to have more perks than Pro at launch (though to date no additional perks have been announced). Over time, Max will have exclusive original language features not available in Pro.
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Got my notification email about my Faithlife Connect Essentials (No Library) subscription being switched to Logos Pro.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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My changeover from Connect Essential to Logos Pro went through smoothly today. It shows 326 'updated' books in my library. But they are all marked as 'temporary'. Are they at some point going to become 'permanent'? If not, when are they likely to be withdrawn?
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David Matthew said:
My changeover from Connect Essential to Logos Pro went through smoothly today. It shows 326 'updated' books in my library. But they are all marked as 'temporary'. Are they at some point going to become 'permanent'? If not, when are they likely to be withdrawn?
They will be there as long as you are a subscriber.
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Tony? Good luck with your Hebrew. Not my favourite course. However, you may want to move your Resh AFTER your Bet in your sentence: "I start Mdiv Herbew later this month."
mm. [:D]
Tony Walker said:can we see the the list of pro versus max anywhere?
I start Mdiv Herbew later this month
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It looks like something went wrong with the renewal dates of my subscription in this transfer. My Logos Now subscription renewed on May 17, 2024, but now my new renewal date for Logos Pro is April 20, 2025. So I lost about a month of my subscription.
Will contact Customer Support.
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Aaron Hamilton said:
If you were to subscribe to Max, you would gain a larger temporary library of books.
The books that might be added could be those that I already own. I am skeptical about this. It would be more advantageous if the books were unowned books.
Blessings in Christ.
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Mark,
Will the updated Logos Pro subscription follow on to Faithlife Connect include the two mobile Ed courses per year?
Peace.
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Mark,
Will the updated Logos Pro subscription follow on to Faithlife Connect include the two mobile Ed courses per year?
Peace.
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Joey Midgett said:David Matthew said:
My changeover from Connect Essential to Logos Pro went through smoothly today. It shows 326 'updated' books in my library. But they are all marked as 'temporary'. Are they at some point going to become 'permanent'? If not, when are they likely to be withdrawn?
They will be there as long as you are a subscriber.
i.e. you do not keep them "permanently" unless purchased (it is the same as a Connect subscription with books).
Dave
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Michael D Weaver said:
Mark,
Will the updated Logos Pro subscription follow on to Faithlife Connect include the two mobile Ed courses per year?
Peace.
I have not seen an answer to this question yet and I have learned much over the years by always finding a course to be working on using the 6 month "rentals" of courses using this benefit of my Faithlife Connect subscription. I would be disappointed to see it go away.
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I may be misinformed, but it appears that the Connect subscription features are honored. IOWs Pro has been blended with Connect. I received the full feature set for a prorated price and now enjoy the benefits of both programs, AFAIK this is applicable generally. To answer your question directly, the MobileEd courses continue to be offered.Paul Lehr said:Michael D Weaver said:Mark,
Will the updated Logos Pro subscription follow on to Faithlife Connect include the two mobile Ed courses per year?
Peace.
I have not seen an answer to this question yet and I have learned much over the years by always finding a course to be working on using the 6 month "rentals" of courses using this benefit of my Faithlife Connect subscription. I would be disappointed to see it go away.
Unclear is whether subscribers will be eligible for the 2% and 5% annual rewards. I guess that the higher of the two will take precedence.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
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Hello Beloved and Paul,
Paul, I too like the option of the rented courses.
Beloved, indeed it does seem that the programs are blended until when... Certainly until the renewal in 2025. Then what will happen? Will the two rented course, free ebooks, 2% benefits be gone?
I hope not. It would be nice if they left it grandfathered in as a combined subscription indefinitely..... Or until a person changes suns subscription plans.
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Tony Walker said:
can we see the the list of pro versus max anywhere?
We're still working on a feature comparison. Can you make sense of this (everything in Max, not in Pro)?
- The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Phrase Marker Analysis
- Cascadia Syntax Graphs of the New Testament: SBL Edition
- Cascadia Syntax Graphs of the Septuagint Deuterocanon and Apocrypha
- Lexham Hebrew Bible: Cantillation Analysis Graphs
- Ancient Literature Dataset
- Lexham Clauses Dataset: SBLGNT Edition
- Lexham Clauses Dataset: LHB Edition Dataset
- Clauses Database: Septuagint Deuterocanon/Apocrypha, H.B. Swete Edition
- Andersen-Forbes Aramaic Grammatical Relationships Dataset
- Andersen-Forbes Hebrew Grammatical Relationships
- Cascadia Syntax Graphs Grammatical Relationships
- Grammar Cross References Dataset
- Important Words Dataset
- Lexham Hebrew Bible: Cantillations Analysis Dataset
- The Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament Dataset
- The Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament Dataset: SBL Edition
- The Lexham Discourse Hebrew Bible Dataset
- Accents in the Greek New Testament
- Syllables in the Greek New Testament
- Greek Grammatical Constructions Dataset
- Hebrew Grammatical Constructions Dataset
- Literary Type Dataset
- Longacre Genre Dataset
- Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible
- New Testament Syntactic Force Dataset
- Sentence Types of the Old Testament Dataset
- New Testament Propositional Outlines Supplemental Data
- Old Testament Propositional Bible Outlines
- Sentence Types of the New Testament Dataset
- Source Criticism of the Bible
- Andersen-Forbes Phrase Marker Analysis Dataset
- Cascadia Syntax Graphs of the Septuagint Deuterocanon and Apocrypha
- Cascadia Syntax Graphs of the New Testament: SBL Edition
- Lexham Hebrew Bible: Cantillation Analysis Database
- The Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament: SBL Edition
- Auto Translation Subscription
- Lemmas in Passages
- Lexicon Reformatting Dataset
- Morph Query Engine
- Online Manuscripts Dataset
- Smart Search Synopsis
- Semantic Roles and Case Frames Dataset: LHB Edition
- Semantic Roles and Case Frames Dataset: SBLGNT Edition
- Hebrew Cantillations
- Hebrew Bible Manuscript Explorer
- Septuagint Manuscript Explorer
- The Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament, SBL Edition: Sentence Analysis
- English-Greek Reverse Interlinear for the Lexham English Septuagint, 2nd Edition
- English-Greek Reverse Interlinear for the Lexham English Septuagint, 2nd Edition (Alternate Texts)
- The Greek-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Septuagint: H.B. Swete Edition
- The Greek-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Septuagint: H. B. Swete Edition, Alternate Texts
- The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate Old Testament: Psalms and Deuterocanonical Books
- The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate: Deuterocanonical Old Testament, Variant Alignments
- The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate New Testament
- The Latin-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Vulgate Old Testament
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Michael D Weaver said:
Will the updated Logos Pro subscription follow on to Faithlife Connect include the two mobile Ed courses per year?
We'll be announcing some more perks very shortly, but I'm hopeful that our Mobile Ed perks will be even better in the new subscription than they were in Faithlife Connect.
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It's my impression from the information supplied by customer service that we retain our privileges as long as we subscribe.Michael D Weaver said:Beloved, indeed it does seem that the programs are blended until when...
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.4 1TB SSD
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Beloved Amodeo said:
it appears that the Connect subscription features are honored. IOWs Pro has been blended with Connect. I received the full feature set for a prorated price and now enjoy the benefits of both programs, AFAIK this is applicable generally. To answer your question directly, the MobileEd courses continue to be offered.
This is correct at the moment, but once the migration is complete, you'll only receive the new perk, not the old one.
Beloved Amodeo said:Unclear is whether subscribers will be eligible for the 2% and 5% annual rewards. I guess that the higher of the two will take precedence.
I'm not sure when the transition from 2% to 5% will take place, sorry. It's possible it won't be until the end of the transition period.
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Aren't the listed features included in the full feature set we paid for?Mark Barnes (Logos) said:We're still working on a feature comparison. Can you make sense of this (everything in Max, not in Pro)?
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.4 1TB SSD
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Armin said:
It looks like something went wrong with the renewal dates of my subscription in this transfer. My Logos Now subscription renewed on May 17, 2024, but now my new renewal date for Logos Pro is April 20, 2025. So I lost about a month of my subscription.
Costumer Support acknowledged that there was an issue and extended my subscription by one month. So all is good.
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Beloved Amodeo said:
Aren't the listed features included in the full feature set we paid for?
Yes. At launch, there won't be any brand-new features that are exclusive to Logos Max. But that will change early in 2025.
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I appreciate your admission of uncertainty, however, it is not advisable to overlook that the features and benefits of Pro have already been transferred to the Connect subscription. I therefore argue that the 5% benefit should be applied concurrent with the "transition" to Pro.Mark Barnes (Logos) said:Beloved Amodeo said:Unclear is whether subscribers will be eligible for the 2% and 5% annual rewards. I guess that the higher of the two will take precedence.
I'm not sure when the transition from 2% to 5% will take place, sorry. It's possible it won't be until the end of the transition period.
Forgive me for posting back to back.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.4 1TB SSD
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Beloved Amodeo said:
I appreciate your admission of uncertainty, however, it is not advisable to overlook that the features and benefits of Pro have already been transferred to the Connect subscription. I therefore argue that the 5% benefit should be applied concurrent with the "transition" to Pro.
We've added the Logos Pro features and books to Connect to avoid those subscribers having to wait any longer for migration. But perks are being rolled out slowly to all subscribers, not just these subscribers, and I don't yet have a date as to when that will kick in.
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Hello Mark,
I have been a Faithlife Connect Essentials without Library from the beginning. I have Logos 10 and bought the Logos 10 full feature Set.I subscribed to the Logos Pro (early access) immediately I heard about it.
Then I heard about the Logos Max (early access) and that I could upgrade to that. I upgraded from Logos Pro (early access) to Logos Max (early access).
Now that Faithlife Connect Essentials subscribers have been migrated to Logos Pro (early access), my subscription has been migrated to Logos Pro (early access.
I now have two subscriptions as follows:
Faithlife Connect Essentials (formerly Logos Now) + Logos Pro (early access) - Annual $99.99
This will automatically renew in October 14 2024Logos Max (early access) - Annual $129.99
This will renew on July 2025I was expecting that when the migration is done I will have just one subscription and not two.
Please, what is the correct situation and what am I to do?Thanks
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Look at Mark's original post explaining this:
Mark Barnes (Logos) said:If you are already subscribed to Logos Max, we will NOT automatically cancel your subscription because that would mean you would lose access to the additional 100 books that come with Max, along with any Logos Max Legacy Fallback License qualification you might have accrued. You can choose to cancel the renewal yourself, of course. Regardless of what choice you make, any outstanding time left on your Max subscription will be added to your Connect subscription.
This is the from the OP on this thread.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:Michael D Weaver said:
Will the updated Logos Pro subscription follow on to Faithlife Connect include the two mobile Ed courses per year?
We'll be announcing some more perks very shortly, but I'm hopeful that our Mobile Ed perks will be even better in the new subscription than they were in Faithlife Connect.
Hoping to hear about the perks related to the Logos Max subscriptions soon
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I have what used to be Logos Now for 99.95 a year. I mainly use it for Faithlife TV. Will this continue to be a part of the new subscription?
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Rick King said:
I have what used to be Logos Now for 99.95 a year. I mainly use it for Faithlife TV. Will this continue to be a part of the new subscription?
Is Faithlife TV still a thing? It's been a bit since I've used it.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Jonathan Bradley said:Rick King said:
I have what used to be Logos Now for 99.95 a year. I mainly use it for Faithlife TV. Will this continue to be a part of the new subscription?
Is Faithlife TV still a thing? It's been a bit since I've used it.
Would you look at that! I second this question to Mark. I hope it sticks around in some form or another.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Jonathan Bradley said:Jonathan Bradley said:Rick King said:
I have what used to be Logos Now for 99.95 a year. I mainly use it for Faithlife TV. Will this continue to be a part of the new subscription?
Is Faithlife TV still a thing? It's been a bit since I've used it.
Would you look at that! I second this question to Mark. I hope it sticks around in some form or another.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE could we have the option in Faithlife TV to ONLY view courses/videos we own? And to ONLY search in ones we own, rather than searching for "Romans" and the first several pages of them are full of random people's church services on Romans, rather than the course you paid money for and are trying to watch?????????
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