New Feature: E-reader / E-ink support

The Logos app works on Android e-ink tablets like the onyx boox and likebook models. It would be great to be able to turn off at a minimum the page turn animations, and ideally as much animation and scrolling as possible to work well on these tablets.

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Josh Levy

When using the mobile app on an eink device, the options available for paging are either scroll up/down (not ideal) or tap to turn page. When tapping to turn page, there is an animation that transitions from one page to the next, which results in ghosting on eink devices.

An option to disable the animation, immediately showing the next/previous page on page turn, would remedy this.

Kang Sa Myung

I would appreciate it if you could put the setting so that I can use the remote control in the e-book reader. I hope to turn the page with the volume key.

unknown

Yes!!! I often WANT books in Logos, bit I get them for Kindle instead because reading in the kindle app or on a computer screen is annoying. I bought the Onyx Boox Leaf 2 hoping to be able to change this trend, and it's -better- but not great because of the page turn and animation experience.

unknown

FYI, this is also an accessibility concern, and only on Android, as Apple won't allow remapping of volume buttons (as far as I know. I left the walled garden years ago).

From the Logos/Faith life end, a simple solution would be to tie the page up/page down keys (or volume button keys, as the Amazon Kindle app does) to the page forward and page back in the Android app when not in scroll view, which would enable the functionality requested.

Additionally, an option (in non-scroll view) to suppress the side-scroll animation would be immensely helpful, as it doesn't render well on e-Ink devices.

FYI, I'm also working the angles with Onyx to build in support for the current state of the Logos Android app (via side buttons triggering a swipe or similar). Onyx, being a much smaller company, and thus somewhat more responsive to simple, yet niche, requests, the chances might be greater of finding a workable solution from their direction.

Also, perhaps this can get marked as an enhancement scoped to accessibility. As a dev myself, I know the pieces necessary exist within the app (page turn functionality, etc), but they just need to be wired together.

In order of priority this should be the order of the work items:

1. Page turning using volume button or page up/down.
2. Suppression of animations.

Both of these would be great for enhancing accessibility as well.

unknown

I only started using Logos today and this was one of the FIRST things I wanted to do! It would be much easier on the eyes, if the page would skip to the next, rather than having the animation (using boox note air 2 plus). Full stylus support for highlighting text, rather than using the touch screen input, would be awesome as well!

Nicholas van der Net

In 2023, we have many wonderful e-ink reading devices available, making the reading of books electronically finally a rewarding experience. However, Logos is compatible with none of them. Amazon, Kindle, Remarkable...

Make your books readable on these devices and stop making technical excuses why it can't happen. It's 2023, just get it done!

Jim

Hi Nicholas, actually there are quite a few eink devices on the market that are compatible with Logos now, but the ones you listed are closed devices so Logos can't do anything about those. Check out Onyx Boox, which makes open Android based tablets. I've been using their devices for a few years now, and they are very good (Max Lumi, and more recently, Nova Air 2). The A4 format devices are nice for 2 column reading, or having a commentary linked in a side panel when studying at a desk. Personally, I prefer the smaller Nova Air2 since it's easier to hold and carry around, so I end up using that the vast majority of the time. I think it's the perfect size for most reading. It's also a lot cheaper and has a faster refresh than the first gen Lumi.

I'd also recommend checking out the Boox Tab X and Tab Ultra , with their faster GPU based refresh technology. Possibly might be the best eink devices on the market for Logos currently.

In the mean time, please vote on these items to help get optimizations for eink devices prioritized!

https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-mobile-app/posts/new-feature-e-reader-e-ink-support

and

https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-mobile-app/posts/new-feature-disable-transitional-animations

unknown

I would seriously invest much more in the logos universe if page turn animations could be turned off. Bonus if volume buttons could be used to scroll.

unknown

This absolutely. It would be great to be able to turn pages with volume buttons as well, as the Kindle app allows.

Peter Privitera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1329567#Comment_1329567

@David Morton yes, please

Peter Privitera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1329589#Comment_1329589

@Timothy Shrimpton yes, please

unknown

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1329182#Comment_1329182

@David Morton This is what Logos needs to understand. It's in their best interest to prioritize this feature if they want to get book sales from us. Make it Kindle compatible (which may likely not be something Kindle allows) or create your own Kindle-like Device that works flawlessly with Logos.

unknown

I've read off of lit screens for too long as a longtime Logos power user, and I've invested untold thousands in Logos books. My eyes need an eink device, which shouldn't be too hard now that we're in 2024.

unknown

Logos - please support ASAP!

unknown

I am buying more books for Logos to build up my library. I would love more support for eink devices!

unknown

I would love that too. I want to read more in Logos but an iPad or PC is not good for my eyes. Would love a nice experience on an e-reader. If that could be fixed. Just a smooth page turn would do the job already.

Peter Privitera

Ereaders are superior to LCD/LED screens for reading. They make a marked impact on the enjoyment of engaging a vast Logos library. Consider promoting Ereaders for this reason and enabling mobile features to make it an even better experience. Consider partnering with an Ereader company to offer discounts and compatibility enhancements. I use the Boox Onyx Page and absolutely love Logos on my Ereader. I read with it and use it for weddings and funerals. I keep one on my end table. I've given one as a gift to another pastor. I'm looking to purchase another one within a year just to keep in my bag. I may purchase a 3rd to keep in my office and potentially for preaching (Boox has a 13 inch model).

Joel J.

Yes. Need more e-ink support.

Joel J.

Add more support for e-ink. The Book Palma works almost perfectly, but the yellow highlighter is very difficult to see. Please improve this. It needs to be slightly darker.

Jacob Larkin

Adding my interest in this feature!

Brandon Kehrer

How about collaborating with the creators of Kobo's colored E-ink tablet to design a device dedicated to the Logos Bible software? Currently, I can download the app on my phone or tablet, but they consume a lot of power and need frequent charging. Plus, the screen light can be distracting in church.

While I can buy an E-ink tablet, compatibility with Logos software is hit or miss. Since Kobo uses color E-ink technology and can store thousands of books, why not create a smaller E-ink tablet specifically for Logos Bible software and books? This would allow users to take it to church without distracting others, read at night without disturbing their spouse, and take notes in color.

unknown

E-ink (no animation option), page up/down key please!

Manuel R.

I agree, a very essential functionality to be able to read logos on e-ink readers! Also not very complex or difficult to implement. Talk about low hanging fruits. Also with the new subscription model it should be no problem to fund this feature!

unknown

I don´t think this feature with disabling the animation, would be such an effort to provide. It would be really great, if this could be realised.

unknown

Kobold eReader support please!

Fr. Nicklaus Winker

I purchased a bigMe e-ink tablet. These two changes would make it the best way to use Logos for reading books.

David Nelson

I'm certainly interested in e-ink reading capability. I use the Supernote currently. If I could read my Logos library on one I'd definitely use it. I would seriously consider the switch to a device if I knew there was one that gave me reasonable access to Logos features. Most of the in-app and function features listed in the above comments would interest me. I don't need dedicated devices, just make it work on existing open e-ink devices. I will check out the Boox listed above.

Thanks Logos team for the continued feature growth of the app. Please keep up the good work.

Blessings and peace, David

Chuck Kelley

There is a similar feature request here:

https://community.logos.com/discussion/227631/flip-pages-with-volume-buttons

We should all vote for both.

Chuck Kelley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1329584#Comment_1329584

I don't think your links are working anymore….