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Jordan Litchfield
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I'm wanting to identify all the instances in Exodus where God gives a command. I know how to do a general Bible search (speaker:person:God INTERSECTS command:*) and how to do a morph search (morph.h:V?M), but how do I bring these together?

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,998
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    Does propositionalOutline:Command INTERSECTS speaker:God help?

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  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,569
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    Does this answer your question? Change the last dropdown in the selection string to Exodus.

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  • Jordan Litchfield
    Jordan Litchfield Member Posts: 86 ✭✭

    No, because the morph search for imperatives in Exodus only gives 132 total.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,474

    You are equating "giving a command" to "using the imperative"? I suspect what you want is:

    (speaker:person:God INTERSECTS command:*) AND (morph.h:V?M INTERSECTS speaker:person:God)

    which requires it be tagged a command and be in the imperative i.e. omit commands not in the imperative. But you may want

    (speaker:person:God INTERSECTS command:*) OR (morph.h:V?M INTERSECTS speaker:person:God)

    which requires that it be labeled a command or that it be in the imperative regardless of tagging i.e. labeled commands plus imperatives.

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  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,569
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1356559#Comment_1356559

    Some commands are made without an imperative verb. For example the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20) uses negated imperfects rather than imperatives.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,474
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1356559#Comment_1356559

    I don't understand your objection here. Are you saying that you want all imperative verbs + what Logos tags as commands? What isn't just what Logos tags as commands sufficient?

    Commands in the Bible are important because they often address in detail what God demands of his people. Take for example Jesus’ reiteration of two commandments from the Old Testament in Matthew 22:37, 39: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind … You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” The Commands in the Bible dataset provides an annotation of all the commands in the Bible based on the underlying original language. The command types include (see the References section below for more information concerning the source of the command types):

    • Advice

    • Command

    • Curse

    • Invitation

    • Offer

    • Permission

    • Prohibition

    • Request

    • Warning

    • Well-wish

    • Wish

    Jeremy Thompson, Commands in the Bible Dataset Documentation (Bellingham, WA: Faithlife, 2017).

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  • Jordan Litchfield
    Jordan Litchfield Member Posts: 86 ✭✭

    Jack and MJ, thanks for your engagement.

    You are correct that I am unnecessarily narrowing my understanding of a command. However, when I use the "speaker:person:God INTERSECTS command:*" search, I am getting definite instances of speech that are certainly not commands. The very first search result (Ex 3.4) labels "Moses! Moses!" as God giving a command, and there are a number of other false results. So I am looking for a more exact search.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,998
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    Does propositionalOutline:Command INTERSECTS speaker:God help?

  • Jordan Litchfield
    Jordan Litchfield Member Posts: 86 ✭✭

    Thanks, Graham, that seems to do a better job.

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