Sharing resources of LOGos 4 with Kindle
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Floyd Johnson said:
Right now I use a tablet PC to read all three (plus a couple of others) formats.
Personally use an iPad for Logos, Kindle, and Nook (and few more readers). Holman Bible Atlas pictures and maps look great in color using Logos iOS application.
For Amazon Kindle, anticipating change to browser only reading on Android and iOS devices (buy once on Amazon's web site, then read anywhere with network connectivity - not know about future of offline reading). Both Apple and Google now enforcing in-app purchasing with 30 % of revenue going to Apple and Google (wonder if Google plans to share any in-app content purchase revenue with device manufacturer's).
With Logos display engine, mobile applications have potential to offer more - visual highlighting with personal notes (not yet available).
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Floyd Johnson said:
Right now I use a tablet PC to read all three (plus a couple of others) formats.
Personally use an iPad for Logos, Kindle, and Nook (and few more readers). Holman Bible Atlas pictures and maps look great in color using Logos iOS application.
For Amazon Kindle, anticipating change to browser only reading on Android and iOS devices (buy once on Amazon's web site, then read anywhere with network connectivity - not know about future of offline reading). Both Apple and Google now enforcing in-app purchasing with 30 % of revenue going to Apple and Google (wonder if Google plans to share any in-app content purchase revenue with device manufacturer's).
With Logos display engine, mobile applications have potential to offer more - visual highlighting with personal notes (not yet available).
Keep Smiling
Still a better deal for publishers than they ever received from Amazon on the Kindle. The Big question is will amazon comply and if so how will it be possible considering apple's in app store limitations of 3000 items max.
-Dan
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Stephen Jones said:Bob Pritchett said:
Personally, I'd like us to have an "Export to Kindle" feature built right in.
Amen to that. The Export to Print is a good workaround for now, but a direct export to Kindle would be wonderful.
Getting a Kindle has opened up a new and enjoyable way to read books I've already purchased in Logos. It is also provides good incentive to buy more books in Logos.
Keep up the great work. And the more you can improve Kindle compatibility, the better.
"Export to print" works, but I would not say it's a good workaround. You have to do it 100 pages at a time and merge those together somehow. I did it on one book, but I am going to have to REALLY want to read a title to do it again.
It would be great to have the 100 page limit taken away, and it would be better still to have the hypothetical "export to Kindle" feature.
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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+1 for the "export to Kindle" feature. That'd make Logos books more readable.
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I'm running the latest beta. Anyone else having a problem whereby they can only export up to 3 pages?
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Daniel Arnott said:
I'm running the latest beta. Anyone else having a problem whereby they can only export up to 3 pages?
Yelp. Melissa said in another thread that it will be fixed in the next Beta.
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I have been holding off on getting a Kindle simply because I cannot export directly to it from Logos. However, I have also read that it has a pdf reader...could you not copy them into a single word document and save as a pdf? It may not be as handy as a kindle formatted book, but it could allow more than 100 pages. any thoughts or experiences trying this?
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Matthew,
that is a perfectly fine way to go about it....it doesn't hurt anything....
I believe that the advantage would be that all the unique fonts that we use in Logos would display properly, which sometimes doesn't happen when creating an Ebook from a Logos export.
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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The PDF reader on the Kindle isn't great. The issue is seeing the whole page with a readable font size. I think the key would be to use the right page size.
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so it could display better if the page size is shrunk down to a 4" X 5" dimension...is that what your saying?
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If the PDF reader is not to your taste...then you could convert the PDF to a native Ebook format using mobipocket creator....
that works too.
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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Amazon will also convert a PDF for you for no charge. Just add the word "Convert" in your subject line when you email the PDF to your Kindle address.
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Matthew Helfrich said:
so it could display better if the page size is shrunk down to a 4" X 5" dimension...is that what your saying?
That's what I read on another thread. I gave up after my initial attempt to send a PDF to Kindle.
I would only go down the PDF route if it is a resource will lots of non-standard characters for which you need the original fonts. For most purposes I find using biblia.com on the Kindle browser less hassle than exporting a whole book to the Kindle.
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Matthew Helfrich said:
so it could display better if the page size is shrunk down to a 4" X 5" dimension...is that what your saying?
Yes. If you set up a Word Document template with a 4X5 or 4.5X5 page size, .02 margins all around, 12pt font Your PDF will look pretty good on a Kindle. to test it out set up a document with the above settings. Export from Logos to a new Word document. I find if you try to use this new document it will reset everything to 8.5X11. Then place a single space in the 4X5 doc. then copy and paste all the exported Logos text into the 4X5 doc.If you don't put a space in the document it will do what Word does best, reset everything to what it wants. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Shameless bump...
Bob or someone at Logos: What is the chance we will ever see an "export to Kindle" or something like that in the future?
Jerry
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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R. Mansfield said:
Amazon will also convert a PDF for you for no charge. Just add the word "Convert" in your subject line when you email the PDF to your Kindle address.
As best as I can tell, this only works if you have a real Kindle - not a Kindle app. I use the Kindle app on both my PC Tablet and on my Andoid reader. My wife has a real Kindle, but then it goes to her Kindle account rather than mine.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Seconded Jerry. Until then, I continue to buy my books from Amazon...
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I got my kindle last week and tried what was mentioned above. Here's what has been working for me...
1. Choose a book and "export" desired contents to a word document
2. In Word I ...
- changed the page size to 3.5 x 4.5
- set the margins to .06 on all sides
- changed font to 12 calibri
- deleted the footer
- changed text to single space
- removed spaces before and after paragraphs
- and formmated any tables that pushed text outside of margins
- Saved as .pdf
- emailed as attachment to "username@kindle.com"
I also saved a MSWord version so I could export future books into it with less work. For the second export I only had to change font size, remove paragraph and line spacing, and remove footer. It is working well for me. feel free to contact me with any questions if this sounds interesting and you need some help.
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Thanks matthew! I'll give it a shot
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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Floyd Johnson said:R. Mansfield said:
Amazon will also convert a PDF for you for no charge. Just add the word "Convert" in your subject line when you email the PDF to your Kindle address.
As best as I can tell, this only works if you have a real Kindle - not a Kindle app. I use the Kindle app on both my PC Tablet and on my Andoid reader. My wife has a real Kindle, but then it goes to her Kindle account rather than mine.
Yes, this is true. The Kindle email address is one of the advantages of having a Kindle directly from Amazon. And I have both an iPad with the Kindle app plus a dedicated Kindle, which I greatly prefer for reading. But if anything, it was reading on the Kindle app that pushed me over the edge for getting a Kindle.
By the way, if I may offer a suggestion/tip, I would encourage you and your wife to share accounts rather than having separate ones. Amazon allows the same book on six different devices as a default (this differs occasionally if the publisher requests it). My wife and I do this and it's great for sharing a library together. We have two iPads and a Kindle all tied to the same Kindle account. This has been very handy, for instance, when doing a book study at church. In the old days with physical books, we used to have to take turns reading a book. Now we can read at the same time. It will also sync notes which is a nice feature. If we're both heavily adding notes to a particular book, we will add our initials to our notes.
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Matthew Helfrich said:
1. Choose a book and "export" desired contents to a word document
If you want to export the maximum amount in one sitting set the resource font to the smallest size, Press CTRL + P, select the Tabloid page size. When you export it to Word it will be exported with a normal font size. Doing this I'm able to export an entire Journal (e.g. Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society) with one export. In fact, I would still have 40 more pages to play with. :-)
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R. Mansfield said:
By the way, if I may offer a suggestion/tip, I would encourage you and your wife to share accounts rather than having separate ones.
Would be nice - if we did not already have separate libraries. Initially we built individual libraries using the many free books available for the Kindle - but since we each wanted separate books, we built different libraries. She stuck with the Kindle, but I wanted something more flexible. My Tablet PC allowed me to build libraries for the Kindle, the Nook, the Google reader, etc. When it was time to purchase a reader for myself, I chose an Android based reader that could handle these different formats.
So, though the idea may be good for new users, for my wife and I it is not a workable solution.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Floyd Johnson said:R. Mansfield said:
By the way, if I may offer a suggestion/tip, I would encourage you and your wife to share accounts rather than having separate ones.
Would be nice - if we did not already have separate libraries. Initially we built individual libraries using the many free books available for the Kindle - but since we each wanted separate books, we built different libraries. She stuck with the Kindle, but I wanted something more flexible. My Tablet PC allowed me to build libraries for the Kindle, the Nook, the Google reader, etc. When it was time to purchase a reader for myself, I chose an Android based reader that could handle these different formats.
So, though the idea may be good for new users, for my wife and I it is not a workable solution.
Yes, I understand. For us, I'm glad we caught it in time. I'd bought a handful of Kindle books already, which I had on my Mac, before I got the iPad. We both got iPads at the same time last year, and initially we had separate Kindle libraries. Fortunately, she'd only purchased one book for herself when I realized there was really no reason for us not to share the same library. For what it's worth, we did re-purchase the only book she'd bought on her own because it was a reference book she'd continue to want access to. And then we combined our libraries. We also have a few B&N nook books and have those libraries shared on our iPads as well.
Now my parents are also on our Kindle account. I gave them my Amazon access and occasionally, I'll get an email alerting me that a new ebook has just been purchased. They have an iPad. I simply forward the email to them and they mail me a check. It's a very nice arrangement, and we have the advantage of sharing our books together, all with Amazon's blessing. As people discover ebooks such as those for the Kindle or nook, I encourage them to share their libraries with other family members whenever it's possible.
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Using the export feature is fine, except that we are limited to 100 pages. That does not cover most books.
Jerry
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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Based on the number of replies, any chance someone could provide a summary of this discussion for someone (like me) just joining the conversation?
specifically, is it better to go biblias.com or pdf. And then based on the response, what are next steps?
Thank you,
Gregg
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Gregg Farah said:
Based on the number of replies, any chance someone could provide a summary of this discussion for someone (like me) just joining the conversation?
I'm afraid the conclusion is that opinions differ. There are three main options, each of which has its advocates.
1. Biblia.com, my preferred option. If you have 3G on your Kindle (or just read when on wifi) then this is the no-fuss option. There is no preparation to do. You need to select the mobile version of biblia.com, which does have limited functionality. You get one section of the book on each page. Footnotes are there at the bottom of the section but do not pop up as they do on standard version of biblia.com. Most of your library is available, but those that are not usable on the iPad are also not available on biblia.com.
2. Export the document to Word, using the Print/Export function (limited to 100 pages at a time). Then send the document to your @free.kindle.com email address. It will be converted into the Kindle book format. You may lose formatting of tables etc and may have problems with unusual glyphs (tranliterations etc.). You don't have any hyperlinks or footnotes.
3. Do 2, then save as a PDF and send that to your Kindle. In Word you need to set the page size to about the size of the Kindle screen and choose a comfortable font size, perhaps 12 pt. This may retain the table formatting, pictures and you can choose the fonts.
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For what it's worth...I bought my Kindle yesterday. Loving it. I will try to export a Logos book or 2 later but for now I learned something really odd about my Amazon account. My wife and I have 1 account that has two passwords. If I sign in with her password and buy a book it does not show up on my kindle...even though it is the same account! Crazy.
Amazon did say they can fix it, but for now, since I alone have a Kindle, it's not a big deal...just confusing.
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David Buckham said:
I will try to export a Logos book or 2 later but for now I learned something really odd about my Amazon account. My wife and I have 1 account that has two passwords.
I have a similar situation with my account. Although it's more like there are two separate accounts with the same email address. Weird that they would use the password to identify an account.
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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Matthew,
You describe the process using WORD. Do you have PAGES? Anything different if you use that?
thanks,
Gregg
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never used "PAGES", but I assume it can work similarly if you can save a document with specific page size, margins and as a pdf.
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