Sharing resources of LOGos 4 with Kindle
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Pages can also export directly to ePub, so if rumors that the epub format is going to be allowed on the Kindle soon are true, this might make conversions even easier.
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Jerry Bush said:
How would you export an entire book, assuming it is more than 100 pages?
I am using PDFCreator as default printer.
If I choose A3 (not A4), Logos will try to fit in more data, and then I can save everything to a RTF for sending to Kindle.
JesusChrist.ru - Russian Christian Portal, with free Bible software; Timh.ru - blog
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Timothy Ha said:
If I choose A3 (not A4), Logos will try to fit in more data, and then I can save everything to a RTF for sending to Kindle.
This has been tested. Could "print" more to RTF. So now if you choose A2 instead of A4, you can get 4 times more information (approx. 400 pages).
JesusChrist.ru - Russian Christian Portal, with free Bible software; Timh.ru - blog
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One bit of confusion: You said you open the saved WORD file in PAGES And then export to ePub. How come you don't just save in PAGES instead of saving in WORD?
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I export from Logos, then use Scrivener to convert to Kindle format, then copy it over to the Kindle.
Works great.
Jason
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Can/will Logos remove the 100 page restriction I see for outputting to Kindle/pdf? It would also be great to be able to single click select a whole resource for transfer. A simple ToC would be nice too with right/left button navigation to chapter beginnings.
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Timothy Ha said:
If I choose A3 (not A4), Logos will try to fit in more data, and then I can save everything to a RTF for sending to Kindle.
I turn the font down on the resource to the lowest setting before pulling up the print window. Then I set the Page size to tabloid. you can fit a lot in with these settings.
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Michael Anda said:
It would also be great to be able to single click select a whole resource for transfer.
From the print window if you set the range to 1 to 9999 (assuming the resource has page numbers) it will select everything.
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If anyone needs assistance with a Kindle book, setting up a cover page, table of contents, chapter links, and so forth, let me know. I can add the necessary styling, links, headings, and so forth for you.
It can save time if you email me with a screenshot (or picture) with your resource pulled up, so I can confirm that you own the book.
So I don't lose your request in the midst of this thread, you can email me directly at joel@joeljupp.com
Joel
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I appreciate the offer, Joel. I think I am decent at doing that stuff.
What I am hoping for is a direct export to Kindle feature. I would buy more books from you Logos, honest!
If that can't happen a removal of the 100 page limit would be awfully groovy.
Jerry
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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Halo Hound said:Michael Anda said:
It would also be great to be able to single click select a whole resource for transfer.
From the print window if you set the range to 1 to 9999 (assuming the resource has page numbers) it will select everything.
I wish, Halo Hound. It limits things to 100 pages max.
Jerry
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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100 Printed pages, but not 100 resource pages. If 5 Resource pages fit on 1 printed page then you are able to export 500 resource pages per export.
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Bob Pritchett said:
Logos does not yet have an official position on putting books on the Kindle.
We definitely do not support your distributing or re-selling the books, but we design our software around a "purchase once, use anywhere" model -- for the original purchaser. Personally, I'd like us to have an "Export to Kindle" feature built right in.
-- Bob
Bob or anyone else at Logos,
Will this ever happen? Any progress?
Jerry
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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My progress is that I have continued to buy from Amazon rather than Logos :-)
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Rob said:
My progress is that I have continued to buy from Amazon rather than Logos :-)
I understand where you are coming from, Rob. I buy from Amazon too.
But...
I would like to read the books I already own from Logos on my Kindle. I have scores of books that are for reading and not really studying. Many I have never looked at.
Also, I like Amazon and I like Logos and will continue to buy books from both. However, if I had an "export to Kindle" function, I would buy more books from Logos as I would rather them get my money.
Jerry
iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.
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I fully concur. $$$ to Logos rather than Jeff Bezos would be great, but given the problems above and the generally Amazon pricing, then the status quo for me remains.
I guess Logos have to deal with the publishers in order to implement legal export functionality. Still, Logos could add DRM to protect the content if they wanted to. If you self-publish on Kindle, then Amazon offer DRM or non-DRM as an option during the online publishing process.
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Jerry Bush said:
I would like to read the books I already own from Logos on my Kindle. I have scores of books that are for reading and not really studying. Many I have never looked at.
That describes my situation perfectly!
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Jerry Bush said:Bob Pritchett said:
Logos does not yet have an official position on putting books on the Kindle.
We definitely do not support your distributing or re-selling the books, but we design our software around a "purchase once, use anywhere" model -- for the original purchaser. Personally, I'd like us to have an "Export to Kindle" feature built right in.
-- Bob
Bob or anyone else at Logos,
Will this ever happen? Any progress?
Jerry
I can't speak to whether it will ever happen for e-ink-based Kindles, but our Android app is in Amazon's appstore (http://www.amazon.com/Logos-Bible-Software/dp/B0062RM1VQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=mobile-apps&qid=1320857175&sr=1-2), so you should be able to read your Logos books on a Kindle Fire.
David Mitchell
Development Lead
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Jerry Bush said:
Also, I like Amazon and I like Logos and will continue to buy books from both. However, if I had an "export to Kindle" function, I would buy more books from Logos as I would rather them get my money.
I think this could work like this:
a) Logos prepares a RTF or MOBI - downgraded as compared to Logos resource with internal links, but WITH footnotes and contents, etc.
b) when user chooses "Export to Kindle", Logos server (not the desktop program) would send the file to the user's ABCUSERNAME@free.kindle.com (can be stored in Logos.com profile) with subject "Convert", and Amazon would happily do the rest of the work :-)
JesusChrist.ru - Russian Christian Portal, with free Bible software; Timh.ru - blog
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Jonathan Pitts said:
Having experimented a bit with this, the mobile view of biblia.com is the least labour-intensive approach to reading a whole Logos book on the Kindle.
There is a thread in the Biblia.com forum that deals with this.
Where? I searched Biblia topic for Kindle and didn't find any posts on this issue. Can you post a link to a specific post?
Have a great day,
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Jim said:
Where? I searched Biblia topic for Kindle and didn't find any posts on this issue.
Wonder about opening a Kindle's web browser to http://biblia.com ?
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Yeah, I didn't find it either...
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Wonder about opening a Kindle's web browser to http://biblia.com ?
Attached to this post are a couple of screenshots of Biblia.com on the browser of my Kindle Touch.
Navigation of any website is easier on the Touch than on non-touchscreen Kindles, but it's still awkward to maneuver. You have to go down to read everything on a page and then click the right arrow to advance.
I still think the easiest way to read a Logos title on the Kindle is to convert the entire text.
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I figure Logos really don't want to go down the path of making it easy to export their books to Kindle. I do note there is an API for Biblia, so a good programmer could probably write a script or app to go thru entire books and extract the text page by page and make them into a Kindle document.
Very frustrating me thinks... I would like to give Logos my $$$ rather than Amazon but I cannot...
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Here is a guide I made to export to Kindle with fully functional native table of contents, footnotes, and chapter navigation marks. I thought I would start a new thread as the message was a little long, and I think the methodology is simple and quick enough that it would be easier for people to find this way.
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I bought my kindle because the e-ink does not shine light into my eyes. I still study on the computer but if I am just reading something with a minimum of highlighting I want it on the kindle. I export from logos4 using the html format. The kindle format is based on html so it is a easy conversion. I might export a chapter or my clippings for review. Sometimes I want the whole book. I find 20 file for one book gets messy. From the windows command console in the folder where the files are I type
copy * AbbreviationForBookName.html.
This combines the 100 page segments into one file. I import this into Calibre and convert to kindle format and send it to my device. This works well for me.
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R. Mansfield said:
I honestly can't imagine a scenario where the lack of 3G coverage would make any difference.
Zipping along the highway in the passenger seat or on a train and finish my book and want to get the next. Or want to access the web on the (albeit limited) experimental browser. Etc.
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Peter Bowers said:R. Mansfield said:
I honestly can't imagine a scenario where the lack of 3G coverage would make any difference.
Zipping along the highway in the passenger seat or on a train and finish my book and want to get the next. Or want to access the web on the (albeit limited) experimental browser. Etc.
Peter, you realize, of course, that you are taking issue with something I said two years ago. In defense of my statement, I keep virtually none of my books archived, so switching to the next book I'd want to read would not be a problem. The only real problem might occur if I wanted to purchase something new and was stuck with a wifi-only device in a setting that had no wifi.
Regardless--and feel free to call me a Kindle hypocrite--I now have the Kindle with 3G. I've become a big fan of such connectivity in spite of the fact that I generally keep my devices loaded with every title I own.
What I'm using to read most these days is the 64 GB iPad mini I picked up in December. I have 15 GB of Accordance titles on it, 12 GB of Logos titles, 2 GB of Kindle titles and lesser amounts for Nook and other readers. But I've easily got 7,000+ titles with me at all times in my coat pocket.
I did opt to get the wifi-only version of the mini since I now have an iPhone on Verizon that lets me hotspot, but I think if I had it to do over, I'd get the LTE version--it's just so convenient to have a signal at all times--in spite of what I said two years ago!
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