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they came over as individual resources... which seems to mean I need to have all my MacArthur commentaries open as individual resources. In WordSearch they were one resource so if I switched the to a different book of the Bible it went to the appropriate MacArthur Commentary. Is there anyway to organize them in one space

Bill, you don't need to do this. As long as those commentaries belong to the same series, Logos will automatically open the right book when you reposition into a bible position that is not treated in your current book.

Graham Criddle

they came over as individual resources... which seems to mean I need to have all my MacArthur commentaries open as individual resources. In WordSearch they were one resource so if I switched the to a different book of the Bible it went to the appropriate MacArthur Commentary. Is there anyway to organize them in one space

Bill, you don't need to do this. As long as those commentaries belong to the same series, Logos will automatically open the right book when you reposition into a bible position that is not treated in your current book.

For this to work - and it works really well - the Bible and the commentary need to be in the same link set. Please see https://wiki.logos.com/Linking_Resources for details of setting these up

The Flanary's

I look forward to exploring the new layout.
I have been stumbling through a few tutorials and have pretty much concluded that the "How do I get Logos to act like Wordsearch" approach is probably not going to work. Do you have any suggestions for "starting from scratch"?
I'm hoping the old software continues to work until I finish publishing my current set of study guides, or at least until I can manage the transition.
**My biggest concern right now is that I cant find my Thompson Chain Reference** Is there a list of books that aren't available on Logos yet?

Brett Allan Ellingson

Thanks Graham

After I posted my question, I went and looked at my logos library. I already have my resources. This is great! I love having my books in Logos.

I will check my WORDSearch library and verify all my titles came over.

For this to work - and it works really well - the Bible and the commentary need to be in the same link set.

While this is a typical usage scenario, I simply thought of having open a book from a commentary series (here from BST) and directing the navigator bar to a position in another book. No linking required in this easy case:

This will instantly open "The Message of John" in the BST series (and close the Luke volume).

For this to work - and it works really well - the Bible and the commentary need to be in the same link set.

This will instantly open "The Message of John" in the BST series (and close the Luke volume).

Myke Harbuck

I'm VERY excited about this. Have always liked the WS resource offerings, but never liked the WS ecosystem. Now we can enjoy all the WS resources in the FL ecosystem. Best of both worlds. I just hope this means that Logos will begin offering more Holman resources and will begin tagging these resources so we can enjoy them more richly in the FL ecosystem.

Michael Kinch

I am a Perks member in Wordsearch. How will it work in Logos? Should I reactivate my subscription.

Josh Monda

That's a great question. I received and email from WordSearch saying my Perks subscription was cancelled but literally just paid for it a week or so ago and it did not say anything about refunding my money?

Andrew Batishko

I am a Perks member in Wordsearch. How will it work in Logos? Should I reactivate my subscription.

The FAQ has an answer about Perks: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-faq

Additional details here: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-perks

https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-faq#mybooks-notshowing

I will check my WORDSearch library and verify all my titles came over.

Not all the Wordsearch titles are available in Logos yet.

If existing Logos titles that you already own in Wordsearch are not showing up, licenses may still be processing to your account. Please be patient. This process should be complete within the next few business days.

Most of your Wordsearch library should already be available to you in Logos. We will actively migrate remaining Wordsearch titles to Logos through 2020. While we hope to migrate 100% of each user’s library, we may find limited instances where we’re unable to transfer a title.

Michael Kinch

That's a great question. I received and email from WordSearch saying my Perks subscription was cancelled but literally just paid for it a week or so ago and it did not say anything about refunding my money?

Thanks Josh. I received the same email. I have reactivated my Perks subscription.

CJ Walker, D.Min., Th.D.

Hi there,

Congratulations on this merger. I can see many benefits. Yet, my already-feeble library management system on the user-end just became a worse predicament overnight with this unexpected acquisition.

1. I'm concerned about how to best tag everything that I regularly consulted in WS so they show up in my Logos custom guides & workflows now. Is there a way for me (someone there at FL) to produce a list (i.e. csv, excel, etc.) of all the WS resources that either migrated over or are pending? or some comparable management system on the END-USER side. I understand this is a large process for your teams, and will be happy to hear your advice on how to see what is what in my library from each platform.

2. Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos? Essentially, they were the same as "clippings" in my workflow. Should I expect them to convert as "Notes," because I'm not sure I would prefer that as it could potentially create much duplicate information that I have already copied over into Logos 8 Notes format.

3. Some WS resources were vital enough to me that I took the labor to convert them to personal books in Logos for my own personal study and use. If there are any highlights, notes, etc. tied to those now essentially duplicate personal books, is there a way to merge them into the actual resource now, or am I just up the creek on that? I'd regret having to "hide" duplicate resources that have years of combing in them. This happened to me years ago when I was had been using a personal book of John Gill's Commentary before it came available and I bought it in Logos. I had many highlights and notes that were basically no longer usable. I'd like to avoid that again if at all possible.

The following is potentially not directly related to the stated forum intent, so please redirect me if there is a more appropriate venue to express these concerns:

While I'm indeed relieved to no longer need multiple softwares at once for these resources, I admit that I'm slightly perturbed at the fact that I have, at times, essentially spent "double money" now for certain resources that (when purchased) were simply not available in Logos, then later became available in Logos, so I purchased them essentially "again" JUST TO HAVE THEM IN LOGOS. (e.g. Adrian Rogers, John Phillips, Galaxie Software resources, etc.). There, I said it. Such is capitalism and another competitor's demise. While I understand that I'm no longer inside any "30 day return" window, MAY I GENTLY URGE FAITHLIFE TO PLEASE KINDLY CONSIDER taking what (in my mind) could have been credited back (by WORDsearch) to a humble consumer and apply those profits to funding of highly desired resources in either COMMUNITY PRICING, or PREPUB that are specifically BAPTIST resources, as WS was a more BAPTIST source for content? If you'd like to know which ones are high-priority for me, I have submitted those to your suggestions team before.

All I ask is, please, let me know what is going on with each of the "books" being migrated (while it was only a license technically, they are still "books" to me). As a pastor, these "books" many times are my "friends," and I want to make sure that none of my "friends" slip through the cracks. I expect I'll need to be as meticulous as if physically moving them from one "bookshelf" to another in my study. Your team has expressed how they are handling the "heavy lifting" for me, and I am VERY thankful for their assistance, but I need an easy way to see what moving over so I can tag accordingly (i.e. which will be simple monographs vs. bible commentaries, etc.)

Thank you for your help in this transition.

Keith Steele

I waffled between Logos and Wordsearch for a while before I settled for the simplicity of Wordsearch, so you are right to abandon the "Wordsearch" approach.

As for starting from scratch, the only thing I can say is to dive into the tutorials of which there are many. There are even sites that seem to make good money selling tutorials for Logos and they get old quickly due to the changes and upgrades that Logos is constantly making, but, still somewhat apply.

Logos has amazing sync capability and their app is amazing if you use the phone or iPad app, so that will be an upgrade if you use that. You can drag the windows to where ever you want them. You can even "pop out" a window to use it next to another program if you want. When it comes to highlights, they are basically attached to a note, (if I remember correctly and it hasn't changed). That concept took some getting used to.

Be careful what free resources you take advantage of if you don't want a cluttered library. I forget the name but I got a ton of free ancient works, Plato, Aristotle in Greek and English and Civil War stuff that I'll never use.

The answer to one of your questions:

The email I received for Faithlife said that Wordsearch would continue to work, but, it will no longer be updated and you will no longer be able to purchase resources for it. Thankfully Wordsearch didn't require you to be online to work.

Myke Harbuck

1. I'm concerned about how to best tag everything that I regularly consulted in WS so they show up in my Logos custom guides & workflows now. Is there a way for me (someone there at FL) to produce a list (i.e. csv, excel, etc.) of all the WS resources that either migrated over or are pending? or some comparable management system on the END-USER side. I understand this is a large process for your teams, and will be happy to hear your advice on how to see what is what in my library from each platform.

All I ask is, please, let me know what is going on with each of the "books" being migrated (while it was only a license technically, they are still "books" to me). As a pastor, these "books" many times are my "friends," and I want to make sure that none of my "friends" slip through the cracks. I expect I'll need to be as meticulous as if physically moving them from one "bookshelf" to another in my study. Your team has expressed how they are handling the "heavy lifting" for me, and I am VERY thankful for their assistance, but I need an easy way to see what moving over so I can tag accordingly (i.e. which will be simple monographs vs. bible commentaries, etc.)

I've requested here that Logos consider auto tagging these as WS resources. Hopefully they will. But you can easily tag the resources that came over today as "Wordsearch" and then compare that to the bibliography you can generate out of WS.

If you need help with either of these things, let us know.

CJ Walker, D.Min., Th.D.

Thank you.

Steve Cloud

I'm actually quite excited to learn about Logos taking over Wordsearch. I purchased the software and most of my books/etc. back when it was Bible Explorer. Never felt like the computer version of Wordsearch was as good as BE. Also owned titles on both Logos and WS, so it's nice to have everything in once place.

That being said, I do not use Logos very much when doing my weekly prep for my teaching. I realize that they are two different programs. Can you provide some links to some "set up" and "training" videos on Logos? I know it's not rocket science, but would love to learn some of the shortcuts, etc. Thanks!

Bill McVicker

Thank you so MUCH!!!! Just tried it works Great... Now to find out about my 2 missing MacArthur commentaries on Matthew and Acts... LOL so far this has gone remarkably smoothly

Tes

Just tried it works Great... Now to find out about my 2 missing MacArthur commentaries on Matthew and Acts... LOL so far this has gone remarkably smoothly

congratulation Bill.

Dan Winsby

I have mixed feelings about this I must admit. I have used Logos for years, since the 90's and have enjoyed the power of its app. However, the pricing often puts materials well outside my ability to afford. I don't have any book allowance to draw from. Wordsearch provided me an opportunity to afford titles I would not have been able to otherwise.

I do appreciate your continuing to accept the perks program. I was surprised at that, and grateful.

It will be nice to have the resources in one place.

1. I'm concerned about how to best tag everything that I regularly consulted in WS so they show up in my Logos custom guides & workflows now. Is there a way for me (someone there at FL) to produce a list (i.e. csv, excel, etc.) of all the WS resources that either migrated over or are pending?

Because every Logos user's and Wordsearch user's libraries are different, we don't have a list customised to you. You can search your Logos Library for {AddedDate 1d} to find everything downloaded in the last day, then tag those how you want.

I'm not sure what sort of tagging you need on resources for them to show up in your custom guides, so it's hard to answer your specific question more thoroughly.

Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos?

I'm not familiar with the "Card File" feature. Is this Note Stacks, or something else?

We're still planning how WS user-created documents will import into Logos, but Note Stacks will come in as Logos Notes.

Some WS resources were vital enough to me that I took the labor to convert them to personal books in Logos for my own personal study and use. If there are any highlights, notes, etc. tied to those now essentially duplicate personal books, is there a way to merge them into the actual resource now, or am I just up the creek on that?

We're going to import notes and highlights from Wordsearch ebooks into the corresponding Logos editions, but we can't move notes from your private PBBs, sorry.

All I ask is, please, let me know what is going on with each of the "books" being migrated (while it was only a license technically, they are still "books" to me).

We realise that this is important to a lot of customers, and that you want to know when your library will be completely migrated, or the status of an individual title. So far, we've been able to publish a basic list of all resources at https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration

I've requested here that Logos consider auto tagging these as WS resources.

There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources" [:)]. They're all Logos resources now. Some Logos users may have purchased them through a Logos base package, others through individual purchase, or others via this new import of Wordsearch licenses. If you want to track how you acquired a resource, you can do that by tagging them in your personal Library. We won't be applying any tags to the resources, because the method of acquisition is particular to each individual customer, and not a property of the resource itself.

Willie Harris, Jr

Thanks...I'm loving the new experience with Logos. In regards to not seeing everything transfer over, I noticed that my New Living Translation (NLT) Bible didn't transfer to Logos. Is this a license issue? I didn't see the NLT in https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration. Thanks.

Michael Skinner

Phil,

How long will it take for my Wordsearch resources to merge into Logos? I have been a user of both platforms over the years. I'm considering some possible upgrades, but I want to wait until everything transfers. I really can't make a clear decision on anything until my libraries merge. Thanks for any help.

Michael

Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos?

I'm not familiar with the "Card File" feature. Is this Note Stacks, or something else?

We're still planning how WS user-created documents will import into Logos, but Note Stacks will come in as Logos Notes.

"Card File" and "Note Stacks" are different.

"Card File" and "Note Stacks" are different.

How do you access "Card File" in Wordsearch? Google isn't turning up any documentation on this feature for me.

Thanks...I'm loving the new experience with Logos. In regards to not seeing everything transfer over, I noticed that my New Living Translation (NLT) Bible didn't transfer to Logos. Is this a license issue? I didn't see the NLT in https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration. Thanks.

I'm not seeing NLT in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on NLT, choose Properties, and copying the Book ID?

How long will it take for my Wordsearch resources to merge into Logos? I have been a user of both platforms over the years. I'm considering some possible upgrades, but I want to wait until everything transfers. I really can't make a clear decision on anything until my libraries merge. Thanks for any help.

It looks like we don't have your Wordsearch licenses yet; please check back on Monday.

Dan Winsby

This might have been mentioned already, and if so I apologize.

I am wondering about the Complete Biblical Library, and if this will at some time make it to Logos, and for those that purchased it through Wordsearch. I notice that the commentary seems to be coming at some point. Wondering about the rest of the set.

Thanks much

Roy

go here https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration and search for "complete biblical library"

you will see that the plan is to bring over the commentaries, the Greek/Hebrew dictionaries, and the OT/NT Study bibles.

(It's a long list!)

CJ Walker, D.Min., Th.D.

I've noticed that the majority of resources so far have migrated only as monographs. Is there a plan to update any to Bible Commentary type? (e.g. Tony Evans Bible Commentary, Exalting Jesus Series, NAC Theology Series, etc.). Just wondering what to expect. It will determine how I tag them in the end as either non-versified or other.

Graham Criddle

I've noticed that the majority of resources so far have migrated only as monographs. Is there a plan to update any to Bible Commentary type? (e.g. Tony Evans Bible Commentary, Exalting Jesus Series, NAC Theology Series, etc.). Just wondering what to expect. It will determine how I tag them in the end as either non-versified or other.

Bradley commented on that issue at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193800/1116903.aspx#1116903

So it looks as though conversion to fully tagged resources will happen but over time.

Graham Owen

There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources" . They're all Logos resources now.

I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?

Jay

I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account. I have them in Wordsearch. How do I get those in Logos?

abondservant

I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account. I have them in Wordsearch. How do I get those in Logos?

They are moving things over. I believe that is a Bible translation already present in Logos. so it should come quickly. if not, shoot an email to customer service (or call them if you prefer) and they should take care of you.

I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account. I have them in Wordsearch. How do I get those in Logos?

I'm not seeing NLT in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on NLT, choose Properties, and copying the Book ID?

It looks like we didn't link up the NIV correctly; we will fix that soon.

Laura Johnson

I purchased Logos a few weeks ago when WS was struggling with their Mac software. I love all the features and Logos seems to have many wonderful study options, but the learning curve was steep and I ended up reverting back to WS and what was familiar.

I am willing to put the time in to make this work but for now, can someone please tell me how to best use Strong's? In WS i could open the KJV, turn on #'s, and hover over a number to see a definition. Does Logos have this feature or do I have to open Strong's separately from the KJV?

John Fidel

Hi Laura and welcome!

Try this:

Open your KJV and make sure it is the reverse interlinear that is tagged. You will know this if you hover over a word it will show you the original language information.

Open your lexicon, Strongs Enhanced if that is what you have or want to use.

Click on the three vertical dots on the far right and in the menu that opens click on Link Set A for both resource.

Now if you click on a word in the KJV the Strongs (or other lexicon) entry will open.

To enhance this further you can open two other items:

Under Guides you can open the Bible Word Study Guide and link it the same as above.

Under tools you can open the information pane.

Here is a screen shot with all of them open and linked. Click on a work in the KJV and everything will link up.

Willie Harris, Jr

Bradley,

The Book ID is 0:30.

New Living Translation, Second Edition
Holy Bible, New Living Translation, copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. All rights reserved. Database © 2013 WORDsearch.

Author:
Prepared by: WORDsearch
Version: 10
Language: English
Printed ISBN: 9780842384896
Software ISBN:
Category: Bibles
CBP date: 4/16/2018 2:09:06 PM
DAT date: 5/2/2013 2:12:06 PM
Book ID: 0:30
Path: C:\users\Public\Application Data\WORDsearch\Library\NLT2\

The Book ID is 0:30.

New Living Translation, Second Edition
Holy Bible, New Living Translation, copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. All rights reserved. Database © 2013 WORDsearch.

Thanks; this is very helpful information!

Joey Midgett

Most but not all of my books have transferred into Logos. But my Perks subscription, it says to update my profile to renew this subscription, but when I click the link it brings me to my subscriptions page and only my Faithlife Connect Essentials is listed there. What am I to do to keep my Wordsearch Perks going?

cshover8669

I have literally spent hours and have more hours to cross-reference my Word Search Library with my Logos library and the resources that cam over. This is not a simple process. For example, I have 9 volumes of Butler's Sermon Starters in Wordsearch and 5 in Logos. Without opening the resources in both and comparing the table of contents, I have no way of knowing if Logos has the entire set in fewer volumes. I too would love an individual comparison list showing the WordSearch title, the Logos Title, when it will be available if not already, etc.

Thanks, Carla

What's up everyone!?!

I'm both excited and tentative to have the resources combined. I have 2 separate emails for both programs. I wonder if it is wise to keep it like this until all resources are confirmed migrated to Logos from Wordsearch, then verify all is good before combining the 2. This may be helpful in "tracking" what comes over and what does not (and fortunately I have a new machine that didn't have Logos on it yet, so I'm able to do this). Think it's worth it? Not sure, but it will help...I think...just extra work on my side : (

So my question is:

1) Is there a time limit to have accounts combined?

2) What do we do with titles that are not yet migrated and that are not in the list provided that are planned to be migrated (for example: I see The NIV Study Bible has not been added, nor is it on the list of to be added; the same is true for The Founders Journal and some other "older" titles from the Doxa days)?

I am willing to put the time in to make this work but for now, can someone please tell me how to best use Strong's? In WS i could open the KJV, turn on #'s, and hover over a number to see a definition. Does Logos have this feature or do I have to open Strong's separately from the KJV?

Here's our support article on using Strong's numbers. https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028307111-Using-Strong-s-Numbers

You can find more articles and tips we hope will prove useful here: https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360049907311

1) Is there a time limit to have accounts combined?

There is no time limit to have accounts merged. Customer service will be able to handle that for you whenever you are ready.

2) What do we do with titles that are not yet migrated and that are not in the list provided that are planned to be migrated (for example: I see The NIV Study Bible has not been added, nor is it on the list of to be added; the same is true for The Founders Journal and some other "older" titles from the Doxa days)?

Please continue to report these anomalies as you discover them. This is very helpful as we work through the transition.

1) Is there a time limit to have accounts combined?

There is no time limit to have accounts merged. Customer service will be able to handle that for you whenever you are ready.

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This is good news! Thanks!

2) What do we do with titles that are not yet migrated and that are not in the list provided that are planned to be migrated (for example: I see The NIV Study Bible has not been added, nor is it on the list of to be added; the same is true for The Founders Journal and some other "older" titles from the Doxa days)?

Please continue to report these anomalies as you discover them. This is very helpful as we work through the transition.

Is there a specific place I should report these to?

Thanks!

2) What do we do with titles that are not yet migrated and that are not in the list provided that are planned to be migrated (for example: I see The NIV Study Bible has not been added, nor is it on the list of to be added; the same is true for The Founders Journal and some other "older" titles from the Doxa days)?

Please continue to report these anomalies as you discover them. This is very helpful as we work through the transition.

Is there a specific place I should report these to?

Thanks!

You can continue to report them here. Thanks.

Laura Johnson

Thank you, John! It would have taken me a long time to figure this out for myself! I like my chances much better now.

Charissa

I am not seeing any books from my Wordsearch library transferred to my logos account yet. How many days does it take?

https://logos.com/wordsearch-faq#mybooks

I am not seeing any books from my Wordsearch library transferred to my logos account yet. How many days does it take?

ABWJR

Anyone know how to turn off this obnixious opening chime?

Rick

Anyone know how to turn off this obnixious opening chime?

Tools > Program Settings > Play Sounds

ABWJR

Thanks!!! Not intuitive, really. I thought it would affect "talking dictionaries"

Phyllis Smith

Me too I go back to Wordsearch. I'm not deleting from my computer. Hope it keeps working. So far not impressed with Logos tooo cumbersome.

Tes

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Today's English Version
Good News Translation® (Today's English Version, Second Edition) Copyright © 1992 American Bible Society. All rights reserved. Database © 2008 WORDsearch Corp.

Author:
Prepared by:	WORDsearch Corp.
Version:	7
Language:	English
Printed ISBN:
Software ISBN:
Category:	Bibles
CBP date:	5/27/2011 9:16:40 AM
DAT date:	5/27/2011 9:16:38 AM
Book ID:	0:197
Path:	C:\ProgramData\WORDsearch\Library\TEV\

Epistles of James and John, The
Database © 2012 WORDsearch Corp.

Author:	Ross, Alexander; Stonehouse, Ned B.
Prepared by:	WORDsearch Corp.
Version:	0
Language:	English
Printed ISBN:	9780802821928
Software ISBN:
Category:	Commentaries\New Testament
CBP date:	6/6/2012 8:51:18 AM
DAT date:	6/6/2012 8:51:18 AM
Book ID:	0:4475

Adam Clarke's Commentary
Database © 2014 WORDsearch.

Author:	Clarke, Adam
Prepared by:	WORDsearch
Version:	8
Language:	English
Printed ISBN:
Software ISBN:
Category:	Commentaries
CBP date:	6/5/2014 9:31:32 AM
DAT date:	6/5/2014 9:31:28 AM
Book ID:	0:39

Bible Exposition Commentary - the "Be" series by Warren Wiersby - I have 57 of these and I think they exist in Logos but don't appear when I search for them.

Biblical Theology for Christian Proclamation: Commentary on Romans
© Copyright 2017 by David G. Peterson. Database © 2017 WORDsearch.

Author:	Peterson, David G
Prepared by:	WORDsearch
Version:	0
Language:	English
Printed ISBN:	9780805496222
Software ISBN:
Category:	Commentaries
CBP date:	8/30/2017 11:43:20 AM
DAT date:	8/30/2017 11:43:18 AM
Book ID:	0:15757

I stopped - I was also forming a list of items that I'm missing and don't see and ended up putting those in an email to customer support. I can copy/paste that here if needed, but some of those do exist in Logos but not in my new Logos Library.

Tes

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Jeff Frazier

So far, my experience has been less than satisfactory. I tried downloading the Logos software to my computer to no avail (says file missing). When using the web version, I noticed that my resource, Dispensational Truth, was text only, and the charts and other features are "sold separately." I paid almost $100 for that resource, and now Logos expects me to pay even more to maintain what I had. Moreover none of study resources have migrated yet. So, I will have to continue using both apps until then.

For folks like me who loved the simplicity of Wordsearch, I am disappointed thus far with this so-called superior product. Most of us wrestle with complicated software and complex programs at work that are ever changing. It was nice having a simple resource to study God's Word.

I tried downloading the Logos software to my computer to no avail (says file missing).

Where did you see the file missing note?

he charts and other features are "sold separately.

Someone from Faithlife will have to respond about Dispensational Truth. I think it is their intention to provide everything they've received from Lifeway/Wordsearch, but charts and maps might take longer to produce.

Moreover none of study resources have migrated yet.

Some others have not yet had their licenses get carried over yet. Someone from Faithlife can look into your specific situation.

For folks like me who loved the simplicity of Wordsearch, I am disappointed thus far with this so-called superior product

Superior and more user friendly are two different things. It will take awhile to learn Logos. Many people struggle with it at first. Sorry you have to make the change, but at least Lifeway was able to find a company to take over the software.

When using the web version, I noticed that my resource, Dispensational Truth, was text only, and the charts and other features are "sold separately." I paid almost $100 for that resource, and now Logos expects me to pay even more to maintain what I had.

Hi Jeff,

Welcome to Logos!

Thanks for letting us know that we hadn't unlocked all of the Dispensational Truth content for Wordsearch users. That title is broken up into two ebooks in Logos, and only the first was unlocked.

That's been fixed now, so you should see the Charts as a separate resource in your library.

Kennet

I can't find College Press NIV Commentary which I bought in wordsearch,

Bill McVicker

Overall, I like Logos, (I’ve used both since QuickVerse days and Libronix days) and each had strengths

For example, Logos is a true 64 bit app, and it doesn’t seem to care how many resources I have open. It is so fast! I like the ability of being able to change the background colors to make it easier on the eyes. Logos has so much power, I doubt I will ever use half of it.

Wordsearch had strengths too.. For example, being able to click a button to turn on/off Strong’s numbers is amazingly simple. Or having the Strong’s talking Greek Hebrew dictionary available which allows me to learn to say words my tongue isn’t use to pronouncing with the click of a icon. lol. And ZipScript… allows me to put Bible Verses in my PowerPoint slides so easily

I understand there will be growing pains... I can't believe how much work must've gone into this change over and so appreciate the work that's been done so far. I do wish there was a utility we could run... comparing our WordSearch libraries with our Logos Libraries and list out the differences. I've spent several hours today trying to see what I had in WS vs what I have in Logos. And it's frustrating when I see a commentary missing in Logos. Then I look at the Logos Store (for example at the Teach the Text commentary) and it shows that I own all but the 2nd Corinthians one (I actually own all of them in WS) but none of that commentary have come down to my Logos yet... Is this a bug? should I report it or should I be patient... I think probably the latter... but is that right? I don't want to be a pain... after all WS still works.

I think this will be a good change over and I just have to learn some new tricks... but you know what they say about old dogs...

Thank you again

Daniel Radke

I can't find College Press NIV Commentary which I bought in wordsearch,

I am having the same issue. I had purchased years ago the New Testament set of the College Press NIV Commentary. It shows up in the list of “Products Owned” when I’m logged in to the WS website. But, I don’t have access to this set in Logos. As I’ve read a lot of the recent posts here in these forums, other users like us are having similar difficulties. I believe Logos will be looking into these discrepancies and fixing the issues as they can. We have to be patient.

Overall, I like Logos, (I’ve used both since QuickVerse days and Libronix days) and each had strengths

For example, Logos is a true 64 bit app, and it doesn’t seem to care how many resources I have open. It is so fast! I like the ability of being able to change the background colors to make it easier on the eyes. Logos has so much power, I doubt I will ever use half of it.

Wordsearch had strengths too.. For example, being able to click a button to turn on/off Strong’s numbers is amazingly simple. Or having the Strong’s talking Greek Hebrew dictionary available which allows me to learn to say words my tongue isn’t use to pronouncing with the click of a icon. lol. And ZipScript… allows me to put Bible Verses in my PowerPoint slides so easily

I understand there will be growing pains... I can't believe how much work must've gone into this change over and so appreciate the work that's been done so far. I do wish there was a utility we could run... comparing our WordSearch libraries with our Logos Libraries and list out the differences. I've spent several hours today trying to see what I had in WS vs what I have in Logos. And it's frustrating when I see a commentary missing in Logos. Then I look at the Logos Store (for example at the Teach the Text commentary) and it shows that I own all but the 2nd Corinthians one (I actually own all of them in WS) but none of that commentary have come down to my Logos yet... Is this a bug? should I report it or should I be patient... I think probably the latter... but is that right? I don't want to be a pain... after all WS still works.

I think this will be a good change over and I just have to learn some new tricks... but you know what they say about old dogs...

Thank you again

Love your heart here, bro!

Good words!!

So far, my experience has been less than satisfactory. I tried downloading the Logos software to my computer to no avail (says file missing). When using the web version, I noticed that my resource, Dispensational Truth, was text only, and the charts and other features are "sold separately." I paid almost $100 for that resource, and now Logos expects me to pay even more to maintain what I had. Moreover none of study resources have migrated yet. So, I will have to continue using both apps until then.

For folks like me who loved the simplicity of Wordsearch, I am disappointed thus far with this so-called superior product. Most of us wrestle with complicated software and complex programs at work that are ever changing. It was nice having a simple resource to study God's Word.

I feel you, here, Jeff!
Love(d) the simplicity of Wordsearch as a quick go to.

Sorry you've had some difficulty(-ies) with Logos so far! Try to be patient with the resources coming over and all the background "magic" that has to happen to make them available to you/us in Logos.

Transitioning over to Logos will definitely be a learning curve, but it is worth the time and practice. The best analogy is learning to dance: If you learn the basic 2-step you'll be alright, but know there are so many more moves and styles you can learn. The more you get to know and put in your repertoire, the better. But it all starts with that 2-step.
Let me encourage you to push on.

Welcome to Logos, Jeff! Praying the transition for you goes smoother than it started.

Blessings in JESUS!

1 Thessalonians 5:16–21 (ESV)
16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. 19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies, 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good.

JLH

I agree with comment about Strong's numbers.

Also, with Worksearch , I can link all my Bibles and Commentaries at the same time.

With Logos , I only see way to ,link one Bible with one commentary.

Is there a way to link all( usually keep 5 or 6 of each up for study ) at same time in Logos?

I agree with comment about Strong's numbers.

Which comment? If you'd like to use them, have you seen one of the several explanations given yesterday and today about how to do so (the official version is here: https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028307111-Using-Strong-s-Numbers ), do you need more help about that?

Also, with Worksearch , I can link all my Bibles and Commentaries at the same time.

With Logos , I only see way to ,link one Bible with one commentary. Is there a way to link all( usually keep 5 or 6 of each up for study ) at same time in Logos?

Of course you can - you did see Mark's explanation in the other thread about how to set up a link set (he posted directly above your first post), did you? Nothing says that you can only link one commentary to a bible, in fact I usually use multiple, if I work on a passage. Even more I use several bibles in such a link set to have different translations next to each other in my layout.

Try this:

Open your KJV and make sure it is the reverse interlinear that is tagged. You will know this if you hover over a word it will show you the original language information.

Is there a way to know which of our bibles include the reverse interlinear? Or maybe what I should ask is how to ensure the reverse interlinear is "tagged?"

I appreciate the good detailed instructions [that I deleted for this reply] but I'm not sure how to navigate step #1.

Thanks!!

Continuing on the reverse interlinear issue.....

I was reading https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028307111-Using-Strong-s-Numbers and it shows the reverse interlinear as part of the ESV. My ESV doesn't show that. Are there different versions of the files that include or do not include that coding in the background? (Still can't figure this out....)

Is there a way to know which of our bibles include the reverse interlinear?

Not from the library itself - the functionalities and datasets listed for packages in the store have them. Many users found it helpful to manually tag them in the library - there are 22 English Bibles available that have a Reverse Interlinear, see the screenshot:

Is there a way to know which of our bibles include the reverse interlinear?

RI datasets are not automatically included when you buy a Bible from Logos, even if that Bible does have a RI associated with it. If you go to this page and scroll down to the Interlinears section you will see all the Bibles that Logos has produced a RI for. It should also note which of these you own.

The way one obtains RI Bibles is by buying one of Logos' feature sets (Starter, Bronze, or Full), or by buying a Logos base package with the feature sets it includes.

I don't know what Logos included for WS users in this transition, so you may or may not own one or more RIs.

Jay

I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account. I have them in Wordsearch. How do I get those in Logos?

I'm not seeing NLT in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on NLT, choose Properties, and copying the Book ID?

It looks like we didn't link up the NIV correctly; we will fix that soon.

Hi Bradley,

The Book ID of the NLT2 that I have is "0:30". It looks like the NLT was pushed to my Logos Bible Software this morning. But it's not the NLT2.

Oh, also, the NIV84 was pushed to me over the weekend also. So I assume the NIV84 is the same or updated version of the NIV that I have in Wordsearch (Book ID: 0:7), and if so, I'm good to go there. Thanks!

One other thing I noticed this morning (if I need to make this is a different thread, just let me know) is that the NASB 1995 Update that I have in Wordsearch (Book ID: 0:32) shows the text in paragraph style. However, the NASB95 that I have in Logos show each verse on a separate line. I've tried going into Visual Filters but none of the settings I'm allowed to check will put it in paragraph style. In doing some research, apparently a paragraph style version came to Logos several years ago. Is it possible that the incorrect NASB95 was pushed to my account? I prefer the paragraph style.

the NASB95 that I have in Logos show each verse on a separate line. (...) apparently a paragraph style version came to Logos several years ago. Is it possible that the incorrect NASB95 was pushed to my account? I prefer the paragraph style.

If you now own the NASB95, you should be able to get the paragraph version for free - check out https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update

The Book ID of the NLT2 that I have is "0:30". It looks like the NLT was pushed to my Logos Bible Software this morning. But it's not the NLT2.

We don't have the NLT2 (I assume you mean 2004 edition) in Logos.

We are unlocking the 2015 edition for WS users who own either 0:30 or 0:16129.

Oh, also, the NIV84 was pushed to me over the weekend also. So I assume the NIV84 is the same or updated version of the NIV that I have in Wordsearch (Book ID: 0:7), and if so, I'm good to go there. Thanks!

Yes; owners of 0:7 get NIV84 and owners of 0:4510 get NIV2011.

One other thing I noticed this morning (if I need to make this is a different thread, just let me know) is that the NASB 1995 Update that I have in Wordsearch (Book ID: 0:32) shows the text in paragraph style. However, the NASB95 that I have in Logos show each verse on a separate line. I've tried going into Visual Filters but none of the settings I'm allowed to check will put it in paragraph style. In doing some research, apparently a paragraph style version came to Logos several years ago. Is it possible that the incorrect NASB95 was pushed to my account? I prefer the paragraph style.

I'll ask our migration team about swapping this. Never mind; NB.Mick offered a better option.

Don M.

First I want to say that i am thankful that my WS books are moving to Logos.

I haven't been a long time user as I just signed up a few months ago. I had an old Logos disc from the early 2000's or something like that but couldn't find a working floppy drive to try it out and see if it could be upgraded.

I'll admit I was at first frustrated with Logos's seemingly complicated u.i. and busy front page. In the long run though, and after trying out the other popular bible programs, I finally got my head around what I was trying to accomplish and just before deleting the free version of Logos off my machine I tried it one more time. I turned off the workflow helpers and finally saw what it could do for me. It was quite intuitive after all and I love how it syncs things between the iPad and computer. Bit by bit I've figured out the little niggles to where I can dive in and find answers in my study of the Word of God. "Pro Tip" scroll down through the guides toolbar and find the explorer guide. You can drag it up to the top of the list to make them more readably available or better yet to the Logos tool bar and then turn it on. It was only after watching the built in tutorials that I found that out. I have Logos 8 Fundamentals and for a small fee, it adds some great benefits above the free version. I'm not sure which Logos library we get with this merger as I haven't seen any change to my Logos account yet.

The only thing was that WS often has, "easier on the pocket book", pricing and so I ended up with 2 libraries and was still, when it made sense, adding resources to WS.

I'm so excited about this change and am still checking every day to see if any books have merged over yet. Maybe it takes longer to get to Canada? :-)

*** God bless you guys at Logos as you deal with the humongous task of transferring licenses and resources between platforms and deal with all the questions and comments in the process! ***

Don

I'm not sure which Logos library we get with this merger as I haven't seen any change to my Logos account yet.

Faithlife is transferring your WS books only. Their libraries would not match up with what you've purchased on WS so they will give you your books and the Logos engine for free. I am not sure what datasets and features they are providing, but it is a set that as best as they can matches what you had in WS.

So, bottom line, don't look for a new library in Logos.

Glad you are happy.

Don M.

I guess a better way to say would have been to say package or full or partial features of Logos 8 would be included?

**edit** I think I found the answer here -----https://files.logoscdn.com/v1/files/45561287/content.pdf?signature=B7M_mhfLktiAHHtsu8A5fek3BDg

I'll post it for other who might have the same question.

abondservant

RE the pricing, I'm at about 15-16000 titles, and have averaged right around a dollar a book in Logos.

Much of that has been through purchasing base packages.

The sales are here too. You just have to watch for them. Especially the pre-pub program, and the community pricing. But mostly base packages.

James L. Wallace

How do I post to this forum?

How do I post to this forum?

Hey brother!! Welcome to the forum!! ☝️...was your first post...so you're well underway (ask questions if you need specific help).