Welcome to the Wordsearch Forum
Welcome to the Wordsearch forum, a place for users of Wordsearch Bible Software to learn and share how to use Logos Bible Software.
If you have questions about how to do something in Logos you’re used to doing in Wordsearch, this is the place to ask.
Be on the lookout for video training, webinars, support articles, and more to help you learn the ropes.
If you missed our announcement about Logos and Wordsearch, be sure to check it out.
If you’re new to the Faithlife and Logos family, welcome! We’re looking forward to serving you.
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Hi Phil!
I am already an existing Logos user. How can ensure my content comes over from WordSearch to my existing account?
thank you!!
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Phil,
Thanks, I see many of my WordSearch resources are already moved over, but there are some odd exceptions... For instance, many of my MacArthur commentaries moved over, but not my MacArthur commentary on Matthew or Acts.
Also they came over as individual resources... which seems to mean I need to have all my MacArthur commentaries open as individual resources. In WordSearch they were one resource so if I switched the to a different book of the Bible it went to the appropriate MacArthur Commentary. Is there anyway to organize them in one space (frankly it seems many of my WordSearch Commentaries are split up in individual books. This will get very tedious during Sermon Prep.
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Hi Brett - and welcome to the forums
The post Phil linked to has:
- Customers: If you’re a Wordsearch user, we’ve already set up a Faithlife/Logos account for you. If you already had a Faithlife account, we merged your Wordsearch account into your existing Faithlife account, if you used the same email address for both. If you used different email addresses for your accounts, you’ll now have two separate Faithlife accounts that we can merge for you by sending an email to cs@logos.com with the two email addresses you used letting us know which one you’d like to keep as primary. Otherwise, you don’t need to take any action to set up your new account. We’ll be handling everything for you. Be on the lookout for an email letting you know that your account migration is complete.
Did you use different email addresses? If so, I suggest you contact customer services and ask them to merge the two accounts.
Or were you asking something different?
Graham
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Bill McVicker said:
they came over as individual resources... which seems to mean I need to have all my MacArthur commentaries open as individual resources. In WordSearch they were one resource so if I switched the to a different book of the Bible it went to the appropriate MacArthur Commentary. Is there anyway to organize them in one space
Bill, you don't need to do this. As long as those commentaries belong to the same series, Logos will automatically open the right book when you reposition into a bible position that is not treated in your current book.
Have joy in the Lord!
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NB.Mick said:Bill McVicker said:
they came over as individual resources... which seems to mean I need to have all my MacArthur commentaries open as individual resources. In WordSearch they were one resource so if I switched the to a different book of the Bible it went to the appropriate MacArthur Commentary. Is there anyway to organize them in one space
Bill, you don't need to do this. As long as those commentaries belong to the same series, Logos will automatically open the right book when you reposition into a bible position that is not treated in your current book.
For this to work - and it works really well - the Bible and the commentary need to be in the same link set. Please see https://wiki.logos.com/Linking_Resources for details of setting these up
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I look forward to exploring the new layout.
I have been stumbling through a few tutorials and have pretty much concluded that the "How do I get Logos to act like Wordsearch" approach is probably not going to work. Do you have any suggestions for "starting from scratch"?
I'm hoping the old software continues to work until I finish publishing my current set of study guides, or at least until I can manage the transition.
**My biggest concern right now is that I cant find my Thompson Chain Reference** Is there a list of books that aren't available on Logos yet?0 -
Thanks Graham
After I posted my question, I went and looked at my logos library. I already have my resources. This is great! I love having my books in Logos.
I will check my WORDSearch library and verify all my titles came over.
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Graham Criddle said:
For this to work - and it works really well - the Bible and the commentary need to be in the same link set.
While this is a typical usage scenario, I simply thought of having open a book from a commentary series (here from BST) and directing the navigator bar to a position in another book. No linking required in this easy case:
This will instantly open "The Message of John" in the BST series (and close the Luke volume).
Have joy in the Lord!
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Graham Criddle said:
For this to work - and it works really well - the Bible and the commentary need to be in the same link set.
While this is a typical usage scenario, I simply thought of having open a book from a commentary series (here from BST) and directing the navigator bar to a position in another book. No linking required in this easy case:
This will instantly open "The Message of John" in the BST series (and close the Luke volume).
Have joy in the Lord!
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I'm VERY excited about this. Have always liked the WS resource offerings, but never liked the WS ecosystem. Now we can enjoy all the WS resources in the FL ecosystem. Best of both worlds. I just hope this means that Logos will begin offering more Holman resources and will begin tagging these resources so we can enjoy them more richly in the FL ecosystem.
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
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NB.Mick said:
While this is a typical usage scenario, I simply thought of having open a book from a commentary series (here from BST) and directing the navigator bar to a position in another book. No linking required in this easy case:
Sorry Mick - I misunderstood what you were saying. You are absolutely correct and a great way of doing it!
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I am a Perks member in Wordsearch. How will it work in Logos? Should I reactivate my subscription.
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That's a great question. I received and email from WordSearch saying my Perks subscription was cancelled but literally just paid for it a week or so ago and it did not say anything about refunding my money?
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Michael Kinch said:
I am a Perks member in Wordsearch. How will it work in Logos? Should I reactivate my subscription.
The FAQ has an answer about Perks: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-faq
Additional details here: https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-perks
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Brett Ellingson said:
I will check my WORDSearch library and verify all my titles came over.
Not all the Wordsearch titles are available in Logos yet.
https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-faq#mybooks-notshowing
If existing Logos titles that you already own in Wordsearch are not showing up, licenses may still be processing to your account. Please be patient. This process should be complete within the next few business days.
Most of your Wordsearch library should already be available to you in Logos. We will actively migrate remaining Wordsearch titles to Logos through 2020. While we hope to migrate 100% of each user’s library, we may find limited instances where we’re unable to transfer a title.
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josh monda said:
That's a great question. I received and email from WordSearch saying my Perks subscription was cancelled but literally just paid for it a week or so ago and it did not say anything about refunding my money?
Thanks Josh. I received the same email. I have reactivated my Perks subscription.
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Brett Ellingson said:
I will check my WORDSearch library and verify all my titles came over.
Not all the Wordsearch titles are available in Logos yet.
https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-faq#mybooks-notshowing
If existing Logos titles that you already own in Wordsearch are not showing up, licenses may still be processing to your account. Please be patient. This process should be complete within the next few business days.
Most of your Wordsearch library should already be available to you in Logos. We will actively migrate remaining Wordsearch titles to Logos through 2020. While we hope to migrate 100% of each user’s library, we may find limited instances where we’re unable to transfer a title.
Thanks Bradley. If we own products in both Wordsearch and Logos how will that be handled. Will we receive a credit?
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Brett Ellingson said:
I will check my WORDSearch library and verify all my titles came over.
Not all the Wordsearch titles are available in Logos yet.
https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-faq#mybooks-notshowing
If existing Logos titles that you already own in Wordsearch are not showing up, licenses may still be processing to your account. Please be patient. This process should be complete within the next few business days.
Most of your Wordsearch library should already be available to you in Logos. We will actively migrate remaining Wordsearch titles to Logos through 2020. While we hope to migrate 100% of each user’s library, we may find limited instances where we’re unable to transfer a title.
Blessings in Christ.
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Hi there,
Congratulations on this merger. I can see many benefits. Yet, my already-feeble library management system on the user-end just became a worse predicament overnight with this unexpected acquisition.
1. I'm concerned about how to best tag everything that I regularly consulted in WS so they show up in my Logos custom guides & workflows now. Is there a way for me (someone there at FL) to produce a list (i.e. csv, excel, etc.) of all the WS resources that either migrated over or are pending? or some comparable management system on the END-USER side. I understand this is a large process for your teams, and will be happy to hear your advice on how to see what is what in my library from each platform.
2. Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos? Essentially, they were the same as "clippings" in my workflow. Should I expect them to convert as "Notes," because I'm not sure I would prefer that as it could potentially create much duplicate information that I have already copied over into Logos 8 Notes format.
3. Some WS resources were vital enough to me that I took the labor to convert them to personal books in Logos for my own personal study and use. If there are any highlights, notes, etc. tied to those now essentially duplicate personal books, is there a way to merge them into the actual resource now, or am I just up the creek on that? I'd regret having to "hide" duplicate resources that have years of combing in them. This happened to me years ago when I was had been using a personal book of John Gill's Commentary before it came available and I bought it in Logos. I had many highlights and notes that were basically no longer usable. I'd like to avoid that again if at all possible.
The following is potentially not directly related to the stated forum intent, so please redirect me if there is a more appropriate venue to express these concerns:
- While I'm indeed relieved to no longer need multiple softwares at once for these resources, I admit that I'm slightly perturbed at the fact that I have, at times, essentially spent "double money" now for certain resources that (when purchased) were simply not available in Logos, then later became available in Logos, so I purchased them essentially "again" JUST TO HAVE THEM IN LOGOS. (e.g. Adrian Rogers, John Phillips, Galaxie Software resources, etc.). There, I said it. Such is capitalism and another competitor's demise. While I understand that I'm no longer inside any "30 day return" window, MAY I GENTLY URGE FAITHLIFE TO PLEASE KINDLY CONSIDER taking what (in my mind) could have been credited back (by WORDsearch) to a humble consumer and apply those profits to funding of highly desired resources in either COMMUNITY PRICING, or PREPUB that are specifically BAPTIST resources, as WS was a more BAPTIST source for content? If you'd like to know which ones are high-priority for me, I have submitted those to your suggestions team before.
All I ask is, please, let me know what is going on with each of the "books" being migrated (while it was only a license technically, they are still "books" to me). As a pastor, these "books" many times are my "friends," and I want to make sure that none of my "friends" slip through the cracks. I expect I'll need to be as meticulous as if physically moving them from one "bookshelf" to another in my study. Your team has expressed how they are handling the "heavy lifting" for me, and I am VERY thankful for their assistance, but I need an easy way to see what moving over so I can tag accordingly (i.e. which will be simple monographs vs. bible commentaries, etc.)
Thank you for your help in this transition.
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I waffled between Logos and Wordsearch for a while before I settled for the simplicity of Wordsearch, so you are right to abandon the "Wordsearch" approach.
As for starting from scratch, the only thing I can say is to dive into the tutorials of which there are many. There are even sites that seem to make good money selling tutorials for Logos and they get old quickly due to the changes and upgrades that Logos is constantly making, but, still somewhat apply.
Logos has amazing sync capability and their app is amazing if you use the phone or iPad app, so that will be an upgrade if you use that. You can drag the windows to where ever you want them. You can even "pop out" a window to use it next to another program if you want. When it comes to highlights, they are basically attached to a note, (if I remember correctly and it hasn't changed). That concept took some getting used to.
Be careful what free resources you take advantage of if you don't want a cluttered library. I forget the name but I got a ton of free ancient works, Plato, Aristotle in Greek and English and Civil War stuff that I'll never use.
The answer to one of your questions:
The email I received for Faithlife said that Wordsearch would continue to work, but, it will no longer be updated and you will no longer be able to purchase resources for it. Thankfully Wordsearch didn't require you to be online to work.
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CJ Walker said:
1. I'm concerned about how to best tag everything that I regularly consulted in WS so they show up in my Logos custom guides & workflows now. Is there a way for me (someone there at FL) to produce a list (i.e. csv, excel, etc.) of all the WS resources that either migrated over or are pending? or some comparable management system on the END-USER side. I understand this is a large process for your teams, and will be happy to hear your advice on how to see what is what in my library from each platform.
All I ask is, please, let me know what is going on with each of the "books" being migrated (while it was only a license technically, they are still "books" to me). As a pastor, these "books" many times are my "friends," and I want to make sure that none of my "friends" slip through the cracks. I expect I'll need to be as meticulous as if physically moving them from one "bookshelf" to another in my study. Your team has expressed how they are handling the "heavy lifting" for me, and I am VERY thankful for their assistance, but I need an easy way to see what moving over so I can tag accordingly (i.e. which will be simple monographs vs. bible commentaries, etc.)
I've requested here that Logos consider auto tagging these as WS resources. Hopefully they will. But you can easily tag the resources that came over today as "Wordsearch" and then compare that to the bibliography you can generate out of WS.
If you need help with either of these things, let us know.
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
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Thank you.
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I'm actually quite excited to learn about Logos taking over Wordsearch. I purchased the software and most of my books/etc. back when it was Bible Explorer. Never felt like the computer version of Wordsearch was as good as BE. Also owned titles on both Logos and WS, so it's nice to have everything in once place.
That being said, I do not use Logos very much when doing my weekly prep for my teaching. I realize that they are two different programs. Can you provide some links to some "set up" and "training" videos on Logos? I know it's not rocket science, but would love to learn some of the shortcuts, etc. Thanks!
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Thank you so MUCH!!!! Just tried it works Great... Now to find out about my 2 missing MacArthur commentaries on Matthew and Acts... LOL so far this has gone remarkably smoothly
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Bill McVicker said:
Just tried it works Great... Now to find out about my 2 missing MacArthur commentaries on Matthew and Acts... LOL so far this has gone remarkably smoothly
congratulation Bill.
Blessings in Christ.
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I can see only one resource imported Barnes notes.
Blessings in Christ.
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I have mixed feelings about this I must admit. I have used Logos for years, since the 90's and have enjoyed the power of its app. However, the pricing often puts materials well outside my ability to afford. I don't have any book allowance to draw from. Wordsearch provided me an opportunity to afford titles I would not have been able to otherwise.
I do appreciate your continuing to accept the perks program. I was surprised at that, and grateful.
It will be nice to have the resources in one place.
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CJ Walker said:
1. I'm concerned about how to best tag everything that I regularly consulted in WS so they show up in my Logos custom guides & workflows now. Is there a way for me (someone there at FL) to produce a list (i.e. csv, excel, etc.) of all the WS resources that either migrated over or are pending?
Because every Logos user's and Wordsearch user's libraries are different, we don't have a list customised to you. You can search your Logos Library for {AddedDate 1d} to find everything downloaded in the last day, then tag those how you want.
I'm not sure what sort of tagging you need on resources for them to show up in your custom guides, so it's hard to answer your specific question more thoroughly.
CJ Walker said:Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos?
I'm not familiar with the "Card File" feature. Is this Note Stacks, or something else?
We're still planning how WS user-created documents will import into Logos, but Note Stacks will come in as Logos Notes.
CJ Walker said:Some WS resources were vital enough to me that I took the labor to convert them to personal books in Logos for my own personal study and use. If there are any highlights, notes, etc. tied to those now essentially duplicate personal books, is there a way to merge them into the actual resource now, or am I just up the creek on that?
We're going to import notes and highlights from Wordsearch ebooks into the corresponding Logos editions, but we can't move notes from your private PBBs, sorry.
CJ Walker said:All I ask is, please, let me know what is going on with each of the "books" being migrated (while it was only a license technically, they are still "books" to me).
We realise that this is important to a lot of customers, and that you want to know when your library will be completely migrated, or the status of an individual title. So far, we've been able to publish a basic list of all resources at https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration
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Myke Harbuck said:
I've requested here that Logos consider auto tagging these as WS resources.
There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources" [:)]. They're all Logos resources now. Some Logos users may have purchased them through a Logos base package, others through individual purchase, or others via this new import of Wordsearch licenses. If you want to track how you acquired a resource, you can do that by tagging them in your personal Library. We won't be applying any tags to the resources, because the method of acquisition is particular to each individual customer, and not a property of the resource itself.
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Thanks...I'm loving the new experience with Logos. In regards to not seeing everything transfer over, I noticed that my New Living Translation (NLT) Bible didn't transfer to Logos. Is this a license issue? I didn't see the NLT in https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration. Thanks.
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Phil,
How long will it take for my Wordsearch resources to merge into Logos? I have been a user of both platforms over the years. I'm considering some possible upgrades, but I want to wait until everything transfers. I really can't make a clear decision on anything until my libraries merge. Thanks for any help.
Michael
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Bradley Grainger said:CJ Walker said:
Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos?
I'm not familiar with the "Card File" feature. Is this Note Stacks, or something else?
We're still planning how WS user-created documents will import into Logos, but Note Stacks will come in as Logos Notes.
"Card File" and "Note Stacks" are different.
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Richard Ogg said:
"Card File" and "Note Stacks" are different.
How do you access "Card File" in Wordsearch? Google isn't turning up any documentation on this feature for me.
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Willie Harris, Jr said:
Thanks...I'm loving the new experience with Logos. In regards to not seeing everything transfer over, I noticed that my New Living Translation (NLT) Bible didn't transfer to Logos. Is this a license issue? I didn't see the NLT in https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration. Thanks.
I'm not seeing NLT in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on NLT, choose Properties, and copying the Book ID?
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Michael Skinner said:
How long will it take for my Wordsearch resources to merge into Logos? I have been a user of both platforms over the years. I'm considering some possible upgrades, but I want to wait until everything transfers. I really can't make a clear decision on anything until my libraries merge. Thanks for any help.
It looks like we don't have your Wordsearch licenses yet; please check back on Monday.
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This might have been mentioned already, and if so I apologize.
I am wondering about the Complete Biblical Library, and if this will at some time make it to Logos, and for those that purchased it through Wordsearch. I notice that the commentary seems to be coming at some point. Wondering about the rest of the set.
Thanks much
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go here https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration and search for "complete biblical library"
you will see that the plan is to bring over the commentaries, the Greek/Hebrew dictionaries, and the OT/NT Study bibles.
(It's a long list!)
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I've noticed that the majority of resources so far have migrated only as monographs. Is there a plan to update any to Bible Commentary type? (e.g. Tony Evans Bible Commentary, Exalting Jesus Series, NAC Theology Series, etc.). Just wondering what to expect. It will determine how I tag them in the end as either non-versified or other.
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CJ Walker said:
I've noticed that the majority of resources so far have migrated only as monographs. Is there a plan to update any to Bible Commentary type? (e.g. Tony Evans Bible Commentary, Exalting Jesus Series, NAC Theology Series, etc.). Just wondering what to expect. It will determine how I tag them in the end as either non-versified or other.
Bradley commented on that issue at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193800/1116903.aspx#1116903
So it looks as though conversion to fully tagged resources will happen but over time.
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There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources"
. They're all Logos resources now. I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?
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I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account. I have them in Wordsearch. How do I get those in Logos?
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Graham Owen said:
There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources"
. They're all Logos resources now. I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?
I think there would also be some real utility in simply tagging everything Wordsearch offered. Then users can filter by that 'Community Tag' or whatever and figure out by looking at Last Updated what came over from Wordsearch.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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They are moving things over. I believe that is a Bible translation already present in Logos. so it should come quickly. if not, shoot an email to customer service (or call them if you prefer) and they should take care of you.Jay said:I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account. I have them in Wordsearch. How do I get those in Logos?
L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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Graham Owen said:
There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources"
. They're all Logos resources now. I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?
Yes, this would need to be calculated on a per-user basis. We currently have no plan to perform this (per-user) calculation and expose it through the licensing system to the application.
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Jay said:
I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account. I have them in Wordsearch. How do I get those in Logos?
I'm not seeing NLT in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on NLT, choose Properties, and copying the Book ID?
It looks like we didn't link up the NIV correctly; we will fix that soon.
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I purchased Logos a few weeks ago when WS was struggling with their Mac software. I love all the features and Logos seems to have many wonderful study options, but the learning curve was steep and I ended up reverting back to WS and what was familiar.
I am willing to put the time in to make this work but for now, can someone please tell me how to best use Strong's? In WS i could open the KJV, turn on #'s, and hover over a number to see a definition. Does Logos have this feature or do I have to open Strong's separately from the KJV?
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Hi Laura and welcome!
Try this:
Open your KJV and make sure it is the reverse interlinear that is tagged. You will know this if you hover over a word it will show you the original language information.
Open your lexicon, Strongs Enhanced if that is what you have or want to use.
Click on the three vertical dots on the far right and in the menu that opens click on Link Set A for both resource.
Now if you click on a word in the KJV the Strongs (or other lexicon) entry will open.
To enhance this further you can open two other items:
Under Guides you can open the Bible Word Study Guide and link it the same as above.
Under tools you can open the information pane.
Here is a screen shot with all of them open and linked. Click on a work in the KJV and everything will link up.
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Graham Owen said:
There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources"
. They're all Logos resources now. I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?
Yes, this would need to be calculated on a per-user basis. We currently have no plan to perform this (per-user) calculation and expose it through the licensing system to the application.
From a personal perspective, the ability to track the origin of some licenses would be useful but not essential or a priority.
But for context from memory, I don't have a lot of overlap and there are only a handful of resources that I own where I could potentially transfer the Logos license to someone else because I purchased it as an individual resource and now have a duplicate license from WordSearch.
Out of interest does the transfer process not produce an output for each user process that could be shared as a CSV?
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Bradley,
The Book ID is 0:30.
New Living Translation, Second Edition
Holy Bible, New Living Translation, copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. All rights reserved. Database © 2013 WORDsearch.Author:
Prepared by: WORDsearch
Version: 10
Language: English
Printed ISBN: 9780842384896
Software ISBN:
Category: Bibles
CBP date: 4/16/2018 2:09:06 PM
DAT date: 5/2/2013 2:12:06 PM
Book ID: 0:30
Path: C:\users\Public\Application Data\WORDsearch\Library\NLT2\0 -
Willie Harris, Jr said:
The Book ID is 0:30.
New Living Translation, Second Edition
Holy Bible, New Living Translation, copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. All rights reserved. Database © 2013 WORDsearch.Thanks; this is very helpful information!
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