I'm right with you. I don't need that type of access to the store and it takes up precious space on the tool bar. At least give us the option to hide it in settings.

I don't want to feel like I am being sold something every time I study the Bible. It's a major turn off. Does anyone know how I can get rid of the icon on the top right of my screen?

Thank you.

I agree this is an unnecessary intrusion into our Bible Study Workspace, but I we have never been given the option of controlling what icons FL puts on the Toolbar, we only have control over what we put on the short-cut bar.

Ideally I'd like to hide the option to hide the store tab in the library but having a shopping cart in our main workspace its taking it too far and the user should have a choice about it. Put it on the About Menu if they must or under the drop down menu from our user icon but where there are likely to be some users will find it offensive.

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Thank  you MJ

So far, it's not intrusive for me. I had to physically look for the shopping cart icon. Since it hasn't popped up anything (so far), it doesn't bother me. I do use a 15.6" FHD monitor though and perhaps that makes it smaller in terms of screen space?

Looking at these other threads linked in this discussion, why not put it in the tools menu. Those who want it can drag it out onto the tool bar. Those who don't won't have to.

But it does seem like the people who dislike it have been asked to "give it time," and now that it is live have repeated their dislike. So, while it doesn't bother me, I would cast a vote to remove it from the taskbar.

We're considering a setting/customization option.

Thank you Phil. I would actually request that you issue a service release to remove the Store button and only add it back when you've developed the ability for the user to remove it. There's a major bug fix in 9.5 that I've been waiting for since the bug was introduced in 9.2 (dashboard card bug) that I would like to take advantage of, but I can't update without causing myself an even worse and more frustrating problem. Since this is Bible software and not book-buying software, I think being able to access the tools we use to study the Bible takes priority over a button to search the Logos store. Logos exists to "help the church grow in the light of the Bible," not in the light of the Logos store.

I would also ask that Logos refrain from adding any more buttons to the Toolbar (regardless of function) until you've developed a fully customizable toolbar in full control of the user. I don't think it's too much to ask for Logos to have a customizable Toolbar. Many of the programs we use have customizable toolbars, including a certain competitor that shall not be named.

As far as I know, no one seemed to mind then.

Could people use the Customize option shown in the picture on the Tools menu to customize the toolbar? Or right-click on the Toolbar and click customize? If so, that may be why they didn't mind it. I wasn't around for Libronix but I've been a Windows user for a long time and this looks like a standard Windows toolbar that you can usually customize.

By my count there are now at least 3 different ways to access the store from the program.

There are definitely more than three. Here are the ways I could think of:

1. Bookstore search in the Search tool
2. Factbook
3. Store tab in Library (Only takes 2 clicks to get here without the Store button. The Store button is simply a shortcut to get here, making it redundant and superfluous.)
4. "Bookstore" Guide Section
   • Passage
   • Topic
   • Exegetical
   • Sermon Starter
   • Counseling (new for 9.5)
5. Resource preview windows when clicking on locked resources throughout the software
   • Theology Guide (locked resources under Recommended Readings section)
   • Interactives with links to resources
   • Systematic Theologies
   • Bible Book Explorer (Composition dates section)
   • others

• Power Lookup (when you click on a reference but don’t own a resource that contains that reference)

don't add any more marketing bells & whistles to the program.

Agreed. I find many of the above-mentioned helpful. But the difference is that they are there when I'm looking for them and hideable/ignorable when I'm not. Adding a fixed button to the toolbar is too in-your-face and just overkill at this point with all the other ways to get to the store. The fact that it's there at the expense of my Bible study tools when I'm in half-screen view makes it altogether unacceptable.

The store button is absolutely unnecessary! Please remove it.

I agree

Fun fact: this was a part of the toolbar in Libronix two decades ago: https://blog.logos.com/how_to_unlock_locked_resources/. As far as I know, no one seemed to mind then.

To me, there is a big difference in how it was implemented. In Libronix, it was under the "Tools" menu. You had to click to get there. It was not in your face like this button is. Maybe it should have been put under the Tools menu, same place as it was in Libronix.

The store is being way overdone in the software. Totally unnecessary.

I wonder how many pastors in these forums take up an offering every Sunday morning? And I wonder how many would immediately remove it if a member said they'd never give to an offering and they didn't come to church to hear about an offering?

Lol, I'm depressed, frustrated to the point of tears, trying to feed a family of 6 on a meager church income, crying to my wife about the pressures of being in the ministry, working for a church that has turned the work of Christ into a burden instead of a blessing... and I come here and see grown men whine about an icon that is no bigger than the profile picture icon next to it. Oh, the struggles of life. 

On more thought, I think that for me, it is the image of a shopping cart that I feel irritates me the most. In Libronix it was just the image of a lock that simply said "Unlock". I know this sounds pitiful and that its probably just me but my brain translates the shopping cart the same way it translates spam emails. Always, trying to get me to buy something. An in your face ad, so to speak.

Maybe I didn't notice it in Libronix because it was just a lock. My brain translates that differently. Am I correct in recalling that when I installed Libronix from discs, it also installed a lot of books that were locked as well? I'm thinking it was helpful to keep us from having to download over slow internet connections back then. If I am recalling that correctly, I probably saw the lock icon as an actual tool to unlock a book that was already on my computer, I just needed to use the lock tool to unlock it. It was an actual tool. Now, with broadband, that function is no longer necessary, for me anyhow. It is like going to a furniture store and the sales person is constantly tagging along and won't let you just browse. I usually end up leaving and going somewhere else. That's what all of these store links within the software remind me of.

Now, with all of the other links to the store within the software, this seems to be excessive to me. As I said earlier, I know my brain works a bit differently and for others this is laughable, but it is how I interpret it.

I'm depressed, frustrated to the point of tears, trying to feed a family of 6 on a meager church income, crying to my wife about the pressures of being in the ministry, working for a church that has turned the work of Christ into a burden instead of a blessing

Praying for you, brother! May the Joy of your salvation and the honor of your calling rise above the pain and tension you are facing.

I wonder how many pastors in these forums take up an offering every Sunday morning? And I wonder how many would immediately remove it if a member said they'd never give to an offering and they didn't come to church to hear about an offering?

Lol, I'm depressed, frustrated to the point of tears, trying to feed a family of 6 on a meager church income, crying to my wife about the pressures of being in the ministry, working for a church that has turned the work of Christ into a burden instead of a blessing... and I come here and see grown men whine about an icon that is no bigger than the profile picture icon next to it. Oh, the struggles of life. 

If you've already made pledges to the capital campaign, the church scholarship fund, general budget, benevolence, missions, and you do so every year, and then special collections for women's day, men's day, pastor's anniversary celebration, and you go to revival week events and they take up multiple collections each day of revival, and then every Sunday service the pastor passes the plate 5 times throughout the service, you might complain at some point as well. 

But your point is not even analogous because we are Faithlife's CUSTOMERS, not their congregation. We get to complain when we believe that a company we've already invested heavily in is not listening to us. "You'll get used to it" is not really what I want to hear from a company I'm giving money to when I raise an issue with their product. I'm glad Phil is now considering customization, but his initial response in another forum thread was basically just "get used to it."

I do not feel as if I am being sold something every time I open Logos because a store icon is on the tool bar.  

To me it does not interfere or get in the way of my studies.  

For me I use this quote a lot as a filter- 

“In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity.”

To me the store icon falls under the "in all things" category. 

Of course if the icon is nonessential, perhaps liberty over whether to display applies? [;)]