Flat Earth Anyone: ONE HUNDRED PROOFS

Thank God for "science." If it wasn't for "science," we would still believe Joshua 10 was actually true. Yes, science, our new god.

Science!

Great catch!!!

I disagree. The original post has been up for 4 years. So what’s your opinion on Joshua 10? Another issue would be God’s creation of the Earth before He created the Sun. See the creation account in Genesis. It amazes me that people who lived long ago believed God’s Word, yet we who believe we are so intelligent chose to believe NASA instead of God. We have been deceived, and we enjoy it.

Chuck Easley said:

Thanks for your help, but I am well acquainted with the guidelines. So what is your opinion on Joshua 10? Just an eclipse? God stopped the Earth from spinning for the afternoon, despite what the text says? The Earth is a stationary, non-rotating plane, and God actually stopped the Sun and Moon like the text says? Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.

Just one quick point/question. People who support flat earth typically say they are just "following Scripture" by "accepting what the Bible says". The Bible mentions "pillars" that hold up the "sky dome", so those two things, pillars and a dome, are REAL things. But the Bible also says that the sun goes into a tent at night. Where's this tent? Have you seen it? Shouldn't it be very obvious? But, of course, the flat disk concept of earth doesn't include the sun "going to be at night in a tent", does it?, because proponents admit there is always somewhere on the flat plane(t) that is receiving light from the sun. So what's the deal with the tent? The Bible SAYS THERE IS A TENT. How come there isn't a tent?

If you choose to reply by saying, "that's just figurative language", then you have just given the reply that resolves all of the fundamental flat earth claims. The pillars are figurative. The dome is figurative. The so-called "firmament" is a really, really, really bad translation of the Hebrew word raaqiya`, which is best translated by the NASB's "expanse". Also, the meteors that come barreling into our atmosphere at 10-20,000 mph and explode causing massive physical damage to buildings, etc.--how do those make it through the solid dome??? If you say they don't, then where do they come from and what are they? If satellites aren't real, as most flat earthers claim, how do weather satellites show us geosynchronous pictures of hurricanes moving across the ocean's waters and provide highly accurate predictions of when and where such storms will make landfall?

There is a guy who wrote a book examining how measurements of the Copernican worldview correlate with certain Biblical phenomena at an extraordinarily high level approaching 1.0. Those kinds of correlative numbers can be viewed as effectively miraculous, but flat earth "theoreology" takes all that nifty mathematical richness and flushes it. Why do that in order to gain nothing? The Bible describes things in the heavens "as they appear" to readers of the Book who look up. No scientist refuses to acknowledge that the sun, moon, and stars "look like" they are moving across the sky. But that apparent movement is something that can be easily and rationally accounted for by the standard model of scientific description. 

Joseph Turner said:

No responsible forum member will engage in your discussion concerning Joshua 10

And of course while I was typing someone couldn't resist engaging.

Yes of course, science. Speaking of science, I better put my mask on and go get that experimental vaccine for that virus that’s never actually been found in a human. But hey, the scientists did find it in a Petri dish, and that’s good enough for me. Besides, I saw a well known Baptist preacher say the vaccine is a gift from God. Wish me luck. Talk to y’all later this afternoon

David Paul said:

Just one quick point/question. People who support flat earth typically say they are just "following Scripture" by "accepting what the Bible says".

Excellent discussion points. But 'like it or not' on Sunday morning in Bible class, the pastor has to dutifully explain why all the earthlings and their associated possessions didn't fall off the suddenly stopped spinning earth. People aren't stupid (in general) ... they HAVE to ask. And everyone knows, the poor guy (usually) has to deliver.

Now, to keep this within forum guidelines (at least the proverbial coffeetable), my opinion (strictly my own), is Logos tries to just 'skip it' (how you resolve text with doctrine), or alternatively, sell apologetic books that fail to impress .... next Sunday, 'are tattoo's realy satanic?' (Leviticus extended).

Which is why I advocate a doctrinal mapping tool (to the text). By denomination.

DMB said:

Excellent discussion points. But 'like it or not' on Sunday morning in Bible class, the pastor has to dutifully explain why all the earthlings and their associated possessions didn't fall off the suddenly stopped spinning earth. People aren't stupid (in general) ... they HAVE to ask. And everyone knows, the poor guy (usually) has to deliver.

most (that is, crossing denominational lines) theological works I’ve seen would point out that God worked a miracle, which goes beyond the natural world and cannot be explained by science. We don’t know how it worked but we can know that it would not have the consequences it would if it happened through only natural causes.

I think certain theological views have trouble though. Some expect science to follow the Bible and when it doesn’t, they argue that science is false. Others expect the Bible to follow science and, when it doesn’t, claims that the Bible “errs.” If one of them posts on the forums, expect sparks to fly.

FL would probably rather avoid the debates that arise from these conflicting views. It’s not the purpose of the forum. Hence, banning theological debate.

I decided to skip the quackcine injection. Too many side-effects, according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. I am announcing my move over to ChristianForums.com. They list Unitarians as non-Christians, so I will not be allowed to post in their "Christian Only" sub-forums, per their rules. They consider Unitarians like myself to be in the same category as the following religions: 

(list copied from their website)

Buddhist
Deist
Hindu
Jehovahs-Witness
Judaism
Mormon
Muslim
Oneness
Other-Religion
Pagan
Pantheist
Seeker
Taoist
Unitarian (here I am, near the bottom)
Unorthodox

Wish me luck!

Cheers!

P.S. When you wake up every morning, ask yourself this one question: Does the Earth feel like it is moving or does it feel like it is stationary? If you answer stationary, then welcome to the club!!!

DominicM said:

DominicM said:

it may only provide some of you with comedic value.

I stand by what I wrote, too many of you taking this post way to seriously

If it's any consolation, I took it in the spirit it was offered in [:)]

Chuck Easley said:

They list Unitarians as non-Christians, so I will not be allowed to post in their "Christian Only" sub-forums

Hi Chuck, just curious is there any web site that explains accurately what Unitarians believe, etc.? Thanks ahead of time for the info.

Peace and grace.

Thank you for the link MJ.

Do you know what is UU position on Spiritual Intelligence?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_intelligence

Peace and grace.

Hamilton Ramos said:

Do you know what is UU position on

Also NOT a Logos question

(Thank you MJ for MAKING the UU question a Logos question.  Well played!)

David Thomas said:

Not a LOGOS question!

How can one judge the usefulness / accuracy of a Logos offered resource if one does not have background information about official beliefs in a particular group one has no knowledge about?

If someone knows trusted sources that one can explore, then one can for oneself decide which logos products are more useful to explore certain particular topics uncovered by the background information.

Some others may have no interest at all to explore other traditions, but some do want to check all and retain what is good. 

Is not that allowed by Logos offering packages for different traditions?

I have read the book and I actually do see where anything was proven wrong with his claims. His claims were all based on provable and repeatable science. I would challenge anyone to show what test and claims he has made to be wrong and why. Every solid scripture believing Christian should believe Biblical Cosmology as presented from scripture and not from science so falsely called.