Now in Beta: Import Your Wordsearch Documents to Logos
We’ve laid the foundation for migrating your Wordsearch files to Logos, and we would love to have your feedback. This is in beta, which means that it mostly works, but we need your help identifying any bugs with the way your documents appear in Logos.
FAQ
How will my Wordsearch data look in Logos?
Notes and Highlights
Bible notes, personal notes, NoteStacks, and highlights will all be imported to Logos's Notes tool, each in a respectively titled notebook (e.g., "WS Personal Notes"). Bible reference anchors and highlight text positions will be retained. Basic text formatting will be retained (bold, italic, underline, font size, etc.); some font faces, colors, and other formatting may be lost where they can't be matched to styles in Logos.
Favorites and Bookmarks
Your Wordsearch Favorites will appear in in Logos’s Favorites tool, in a folder titled “WS Favorites.”
Collections
You’ll find your book collections in the Collections tool, and listed in the left sidebar of the Library. Each migrated collection title is prefixed with “WS.”
Verse Lists
(Update - - As of March 25, this is now available)
Wordsearch’s Verse Lists have the ability to annotate verses, which doesn’t yet exist in Logos. We hope to add this feature in Logos Passage Lists in the future. In the meantime, we have imported Verse Lists as Passage Lists; and where a Verse List item includes annotations, it will also be imported to Logos as a note anchored to the verse. Now that the work has been completed, you do not need to re-upload your backup in order to see this addition.
To be clear, any notes within Wordsearch’s Verse Lists area are not going to be imported. Also, Logos will not preserve the Bible version used by each verse if multiple Bible versions are used in a single verse list.
User Books, Sermons and Illustrations, and other Wordsearch document types
We are still deciding how to handle these document types. Your feedback on which document types are the most important for us to focus next is appreciated.
Will my files be safe?
When you upload your Wordsearch data, we’ll store the original data in your Faithlife account, and convert each kind of document over to the Logos equivalent. As we implement migration for more types of content (Collections, Verse Lists, etc.), your data will automatically begin to show up in Logos without you having to upload it again.
What if I’m still creating new content in Wordsearch? Can I add more to Logos later?
You can always add a newer backup. New notes and other data will be added to what has already been imported to Logos; items that have been edited or deleted in Wordsearch will be updated in Logos.
How to migrate your Wordsearch documents to Logos
Create a backup of your Wordsearch documents
Backup your Wordsearch data under "Options > Backup..." and save the file to your computer.
On the following screen, select all of the options except for “Unlock Information.”
You can find more detailed backup instructions at: https://office.wordsearchbible.com/help/12/en/index.html?backup.htm
Upload your backup file to the beta import site
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Confirm that you are signed into your Faithlife account with the same email address you use for Logos.
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Click “Choose File” to open the file browser.
Navigate to your Wordsearch backup file (this is typically in the folder Documents\WORDsearch Backups\WORDsearch 12).
Select the newest zipfile (usually with a filename like ws12b_03092021-1.zip), and click Open. -
Click the Upload button.
Wait for your Wordsearch data to import
After the upload completes, work will begin on the server to migrate your data over to Logos.
If you have a lot of Wordsearch data, this may take a long time. It won’t have any estimate of time remaining, but the time elapsed indicates that it is still actively working on it.
Importing Wordsearch data... (Started 1 second ago.) [Refresh]
Click refresh periodically until you see a success message like the one below. Your data will now automatically sync to the Logos apps.
Wordsearch data imported! (Finished 6 minutes ago.)
What to report:
We'd like your help identifying where we need to improve the importation process between Wordsearch and Logos documents.
Most importantly, please report if any of your data appears to be missing; we'll never lose your original Wordsearch data (we'll keep a copy saved with your account), but there may be some instances where it isn't properly mapped to its Logos counterpart, and doesn't show up in Logos. As we correct this mapping over time, your Wordsearch data will automatically update in Logos, without you having to do anything.
The most likely source of problems will be when we don’t have a 1-to-1 match between a Wordsearch book and the same book in Logos. Be on the lookout for problems with:
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Notes and highlights showing up in the wrong place.
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Favorites/bookmarks linking to the wrong article.
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Collections with incorrect or missing resources.
Of course, sometimes things just work. If you have a great experience with your data migration, we’d love to hear that too! Thank you for your feedback, for your patience, and for this opportunity to serve you in your Bible study.
Comments
I have tried the link to upload my WordSearch documents in Google Chrome and in Microsoft Edge. I have cleared all data (browsing, cookies, cache, etc) and I keep getting the following:
This page isn't working
wordsearchapi.faithlife.com redirected you too many times
Try clearing your cookies
ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Robert
If you are experiencing any issues with the original link, please use the one below...
https://wordsearchapi.faithlife.com/v1/home?ssi=0
Thanks again for everyone's help and please feel free to share any additional feedback about the process that you've found so far.
I have created a notebook for each book of the Bible. I then click on "New Note" and insert my note into that verse.
Since I have now imported all my WordSearch notes, I now have a notebook called WS Default. The two notebooks run side by side in two separate tabs.
However, comma, dramatic pause... I would prefer that all my notes would be rolled into one sorted by book, chapter and verse.
Thanks for listening, Robert
Let me re-phrase that.
I have a Logos notebook for each Book of the Bible. I want to migrate all of my WordSearch notes (WS Default) into my Logos notebooks so that all my notes (Logos and WordSearch) are in their appropriate Logos notebooks.
i.e. all WordSearch Genesis notes are in Logos Genesis notebook; all WordSearch Exodus notes are in Logos Exodus notebook...and so on for all 66 books.
So I'm not having to switch back and forth between Logos and WS default notebooks. or am I asking too much?
By the way, congratulations to whoever got the Dake Annotated Reference Bible working. It no longer locks up Logos. Really appreciate that!
Robert
Maybe I can parse it down and do it in chunks
The average size of a Wordsearch 12 backup is about 4MB, so yours is significantly larger.
By default, Wordsearch just zips up everything in "Documents\WORDsearch" (which is where it creates its files by default). If you've placed additional large files in that folder, you may wish to move them to another "Documents" folder before performing your Wordsearch 12 backup.
Am I out of sync here (mixing apples and oranges)? Are we talking notes etc. or docs?
I uploaded my WordSearch backup file a couple of weeks ago and imported the notes by book, chapter and verse. I'm in the process of tagging those as we speak.
I have been waiting to import the stand alone full documents saved in WordSearch. As I recall, it seems like they were of the ".doc" variety but at any rate, most were from one to several pages of text (sermons, teachings etc.).
I looked in Tools/Favorites but lost the trail
Robert
Austin, I am a long time Wordsearch user with a large accumulation of personal data. I ran the import routine described above and successfully migrated my personal notes into Logos 9. As you noted, the Sermons and Illustrations utility is still in development and I anxiously await the ability to migrate the 700 sermons I have in Wordsearch. Any idea for timing?
Some initial code has been written to allow the sermons/illustrations from Wordsearch to come over to Logos, but the work has not been finalized yet as there are still some key decisions to be made about the best way to properly import them. This discussion has resurfaced though this week so hopefully we can make some steps forward in this process in the near future.
Thank you for your note and I will be sure to report back once there is more information available.
I did a backup of my Documents and uploaded but my Wordsearch documents are still not showing in Logos.
Is this still being worked on or did I miss something?
Wordsearch Documents (HTML files) are not currently imported. There is some related discussion above. As with Sermons and Illustrations, I don't think we've made a final decision on how that will work.
The IVS tab in Wordsearch is particularly helpful. I normally prepare a passage study by writing a verse-by-verse commentary, then using the IVS tab to combine all the individual verse notes into one. I have not found anything comparable to this in Logos. Is there any way of merging a number of consecutive notes into one note in another notebook?
Missing notes: In my WS Sermons Notebook I have 7 Notes on the book of Revelation. Only 6 have transferred. No. 4 is missing.
Documents: In Wordsearch there is a documents folder which was included in my backup. The folder contained about 70 documents, but there are only 13 of the in the documents tab in Logos.
I went through the process of uploading my "Notes" and the message below is what I've been stuck on for 2 days. What could have gone wrong. The site won't allow me to start over with a new upload.
Signed in as DCXXX ‹XXXXX@hotmail.com› [Sign Out]
Waiting for import to start... (Uploaded 2 days ago.) [Refresh]
I went through the process of uploading my "Notes" and the message below is what I've been stuck on for 2 days. What could have gone wrong. The site won't allow me to start over with a new upload.
Signed in as DCXXX ‹XXXXX@hotmail.com› [Sign Out]
Waiting for import to start... (Uploaded 2 days ago.) [Refresh]
Now would be a good time to attach Logs (see signature line) to a post.
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Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
I have spent several hours trying to import my documents to Logos, got tthe Geek Squad with Best Buy to try to help me, talked to Logos customer support twice who of course simply say they cannot help me, and I cannot import my documents from Wordsearch to Logos. Logos support said my only option was to reach out on this site. Can someone tell me how I can preserve the years of work that I spent with Wordsearch?
Greetings Steve and welcome to the forums. There is usually somebody here that can help with most things.
For the volunteers that work here we will need a bit more information from you.
OS and Logos version numbers.
The steps you take and the point at which the process fails. Screen shots are likely to be a great help.
Most probably the logs of the session, see my signature line, taken after a failure and before restarting.
Given the information above there is likely to be someone that can analyse the information for you.
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Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
Hi Steve
Which document types are you trying to import?
Please see https://community.logos.com/forums/t/199562.aspx - the original post in this thread - which outlines what is currently supported and what is not
Graham
My research was contained in documents in the word processing feature of Wordsearch. It appears there is not a similar feature in Logos. From the list of what Logos calls "documents", it appears that it only includes notes and highlights. So in my case, does this mean there is not a way to transfer my research to Logos?
So in my case, does this mean there is not a way to transfer my research to Logos?
Not having been a Wordsearch user, but having read the article in the link that Graham posted, it would seem that your 'research' should be movable to Logos.
Perhaps if you explained how the article linked does not apply. Or showed some screenshots of how the process fails, we might be able to give you some relevant advice.
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Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
does this mean there is not a way to transfer my research to Logos?
Steve, please see the reply I made to this same question in this thread from another WS user a couple weeks ago - it's just a handful of replies up if you scroll up. Logos does not have an its own internal word processor, but you can use just about any word processor to open and use those documents.
If you really want the documents as resources within Logos, you could convert them to .docx format using Microsoft Word, and then import them into Logos using the Personal Book Builder - assuming that module is part of your Logos package, which I believe it was allocated for some WS software levels but not all.
Logos/Faithlife has not given any indication as to what plans they may or may not have for providing some other kind of solution for the WS documents. Personally, because it would crash so often and lose my work, I gave up on the WS word processor years ago and converted most of my WS documents from HTML to a professional word processor format.
Austin, Your email response sent me here so I will repeat my question. The response above for data and document transfer worked for my personal notes, lists, and highlights. My specific concern is 700 "Sermons and Illustrations" which I have accumulated in Wordsearch over many years and which still don't get picked up in the doc transfer script. Your note above has been the same for the 9 months of my querying since Logos conversion
"Sermons and Illustrations, and other Wordsearch document types We are still deciding how to handle these document types. Your feedback on which document types are the most important for us to focus next is appreciated."
With end of WS support now upon me I am concerned that this initiative will get dropped.
I really don't want to lose 700 sermons.
Thanks for your response that included me. I am sorry to hear your plight. In my conversations with the Logos support team, they told me that the transfer was still in beta and therefore they could not help me. They advised that I could get help through the forum. But they also said that few people had raised problems in the forum as to problems with transfer of documents. I initially thought it must be a problem with my knowledge or my computer. But with the answer that I have now received: that Logos cannot transfer anything on the Wordsearch word processing, I would think there are numerous Wordsearch users who used the word processing who are materially impacted by their inability to transfer our work. The "solution" I have been told to date is that I should transfer all of my work to my word processing in my computer, which is "better". I have been trying to look into waht that entails and it appears to be an incredibly time consuming project because it will not tranfer cleanly so every document has to be cleaned up individually. It also apears that trying to copy and paste from Logos directly into my computer word processing will not be clean and will be materially more cumbersome. Please let me kow if you learn anything else.
(1) For individual verses instead of paragraph form:
* Click the Visual Filters icon on the Bible’s toolbar (three dots next to the search icon at the top of the Bible translation)
* Check and expand the Resource section
* Check and expand the Bible text only section
* Check the One verse per line box (per Morris Proctor instructions)
(2) You can change the Bible text size via the slider on the resource panel menu (three vertical dots in the upper right of Bible translation). Move the slider to the right to increase the font size and to the left to decrease the font size.
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Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
WORDsearch app is no longer available to do a transition from my computer. It crashed months ago and was replaced but the app is not available to download . How do I get the many notes from that app transferred to Logos?
I hope you kept the downloaded wordsearch exe install file because you probably will have to re-install WordSearch.
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What will happen to any such items that have also been edited/deleted in Logos?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
While admittedly, more internal testing needs to take place regarding this exact scenario, the intent of the process is to leave the edited/deleted previously-migrated Logos item(s) alone and re-migrate the edited Wordsearch item to a new Logos item.
Thank you for your willingness to help with this process.
I am getting this error when going to the import site address listed.
This page isn’t working
wordsearchapi.faithlife.com redirected you too many times.
Nevermind, I was able to get to it. But just in case anyone else has this same problem, I was able to access by opening the address in an incognito window.
Thank you for fixing the notes. I was doing it by copy and paste, and it was taking me forever. The only thing is my font was increased, but I can take care of that. Now I can study without going back and forth from Logos to Wordsearch.
Thanks again
Danny
Is there anyway to import an .not file into Logos? Super old version of Quickverse with all my notes in it. I would love to import them into Logos.