So my many years of word processor documents will not be transferable into Logos as is? Is there any other option that might be used? I have years of sermons sorted by book and liturgical year that it seems I will now be losing...OUCH!
Now in Beta: Import Your Wordsearch Documents to Logos
We’ve laid the foundation for migrating your Wordsearch files to Logos, and we would love to have your feedback. This is in beta, which means that it mostly works, but we need your help identifying any bugs with the way your documents appear in Logos.
FAQ
How will my Wordsearch data look in Logos?
Notes and Highlights
Bible notes, personal notes, NoteStacks, and highlights will all be imported to Logos's Notes tool, each in a respectively titled notebook (e.g., "WS Personal Notes"). Bible reference anchors and highlight text positions will be retained. Basic text formatting will be retained (bold, italic, underline, font size, etc.); some font faces, colors, and other formatting may be lost where they can't be matched to styles in Logos.
Favorites and Bookmarks
Your Wordsearch Favorites will appear in in Logos’s Favorites tool, in a folder titled “WS Favorites.”
Collections
You’ll find your book collections in the Collections tool, and listed in the left sidebar of the Library. Each migrated collection title is prefixed with “WS.”
Verse Lists
(Update - - As of March 25, this is now available)
Wordsearch’s Verse Lists have the ability to annotate verses, which doesn’t yet exist in Logos. We hope to add this feature in Logos Passage Lists in the future. In the meantime, we have imported Verse Lists as Passage Lists; and where a Verse List item includes annotations, it will also be imported to Logos as a note anchored to the verse. Now that the work has been completed, you do not need to re-upload your backup in order to see this addition.
To be clear, any notes within Wordsearch’s Verse Lists area are not going to be imported. Also, Logos will not preserve the Bible version used by each verse if multiple Bible versions are used in a single verse list.
User Books, Sermons and Illustrations, and other Wordsearch document types
We are still deciding how to handle these document types. Your feedback on which document types are the most important for us to focus next is appreciated.
Will my files be safe?
When you upload your Wordsearch data, we’ll store the original data in your Faithlife account, and convert each kind of document over to the Logos equivalent. As we implement migration for more types of content (Collections, Verse Lists, etc.), your data will automatically begin to show up in Logos without you having to upload it again.
What if I’m still creating new content in Wordsearch? Can I add more to Logos later?
You can always add a newer backup. New notes and other data will be added to what has already been imported to Logos; items that have been edited or deleted in Wordsearch will be updated in Logos.
How to migrate your Wordsearch documents to Logos
Create a backup of your Wordsearch documents
Backup your Wordsearch data under "Options > Backup..." and save the file to your computer.
On the following screen, select all of the options except for “Unlock Information.”
You can find more detailed backup instructions at: https://office.wordsearchbible.com/help/12/en/index.html?backup.htm
Upload your backup file to the beta import site
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Confirm that you are signed into your Faithlife account with the same email address you use for Logos.
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Click “Choose File” to open the file browser.
Navigate to your Wordsearch backup file (this is typically in the folder Documents\WORDsearch Backups\WORDsearch 12).
Select the newest zipfile (usually with a filename like ws12b_03092021-1.zip), and click Open. -
Click the Upload button.
Wait for your Wordsearch data to import
After the upload completes, work will begin on the server to migrate your data over to Logos.
If you have a lot of Wordsearch data, this may take a long time. It won’t have any estimate of time remaining, but the time elapsed indicates that it is still actively working on it.
Importing Wordsearch data... (Started 1 second ago.) [Refresh]
Click refresh periodically until you see a success message like the one below. Your data will now automatically sync to the Logos apps.
Wordsearch data imported! (Finished 6 minutes ago.)
What to report:
We'd like your help identifying where we need to improve the importation process between Wordsearch and Logos documents.
Most importantly, please report if any of your data appears to be missing; we'll never lose your original Wordsearch data (we'll keep a copy saved with your account), but there may be some instances where it isn't properly mapped to its Logos counterpart, and doesn't show up in Logos. As we correct this mapping over time, your Wordsearch data will automatically update in Logos, without you having to do anything.
The most likely source of problems will be when we don’t have a 1-to-1 match between a Wordsearch book and the same book in Logos. Be on the lookout for problems with:
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Notes and highlights showing up in the wrong place.
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Favorites/bookmarks linking to the wrong article.
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Collections with incorrect or missing resources.
Of course, sometimes things just work. If you have a great experience with your data migration, we’d love to hear that too! Thank you for your feedback, for your patience, and for this opportunity to serve you in your Bible study.
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Is there any other option that might be used? I have years of sermons sorted by book and liturgical year that it seems I will now be losing.
My friend, you have not lost anything. Unlike most of the user data types in Wordsearch (e.g. Verse Lists, Sermons & Illustrations, NoteStacks, User Books...), the Word Processor documents are actually just simple HTML files sitting in whatever folder(s) your Wordsearch "My Documents" setting points to. You can determine that by going to Options -> Settings, and looking at the My Documents location in Startup and Path Settings. That's where they'll all be, unless you had some funky saving scheme of your own, in which case you'd know where they are better than me!
If you double-click one of those files, it will likely open up in your default web browser. But if you right-click it, then choose "Open With...", you should be able to pick Microsoft Word or whatever else you might use as a regular word processor, and that will allow you to edit if you like.
I went through the process of uploading my "Notes" and the message below is what I've been stuck on for 2 days. What could have gone wrong. The site won't allow me to start over with a new upload.
Signed in as DCXXX ‹XXXXX@hotmail.com› [Sign Out]
Waiting for import to start... (Uploaded 2 days ago.) [Refresh]
I went through the process of uploading my "Notes" and the message below is what I've been stuck on for 2 days. What could have gone wrong. The site won't allow me to start over with a new upload.
Signed in as DCXXX ‹XXXXX@hotmail.com› [Sign Out]
Waiting for import to start... (Uploaded 2 days ago.) [Refresh]
Now would be a good time to attach Logs (see signature line) to a post.
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Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
I have spent several hours trying to import my documents to Logos, got tthe Geek Squad with Best Buy to try to help me, talked to Logos customer support twice who of course simply say they cannot help me, and I cannot import my documents from Wordsearch to Logos. Logos support said my only option was to reach out on this site. Can someone tell me how I can preserve the years of work that I spent with Wordsearch?
Greetings Steve and welcome to the forums. There is usually somebody here that can help with most things.
For the volunteers that work here we will need a bit more information from you.
OS and Logos version numbers.
The steps you take and the point at which the process fails. Screen shots are likely to be a great help.
Most probably the logs of the session, see my signature line, taken after a failure and before restarting.
Given the information above there is likely to be someone that can analyse the information for you.
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Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
Hi Steve
Which document types are you trying to import?
Please see https://community.logos.com/forums/t/199562.aspx - the original post in this thread - which outlines what is currently supported and what is not
Graham
My research was contained in documents in the word processing feature of Wordsearch. It appears there is not a similar feature in Logos. From the list of what Logos calls "documents", it appears that it only includes notes and highlights. So in my case, does this mean there is not a way to transfer my research to Logos?
So in my case, does this mean there is not a way to transfer my research to Logos?
Not having been a Wordsearch user, but having read the article in the link that Graham posted, it would seem that your 'research' should be movable to Logos.
Perhaps if you explained how the article linked does not apply. Or showed some screenshots of how the process fails, we might be able to give you some relevant advice.
tootle pip
Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
does this mean there is not a way to transfer my research to Logos?
Steve, please see the reply I made to this same question in this thread from another WS user a couple weeks ago - it's just a handful of replies up if you scroll up. Logos does not have an its own internal word processor, but you can use just about any word processor to open and use those documents.
If you really want the documents as resources within Logos, you could convert them to .docx format using Microsoft Word, and then import them into Logos using the Personal Book Builder - assuming that module is part of your Logos package, which I believe it was allocated for some WS software levels but not all.
Logos/Faithlife has not given any indication as to what plans they may or may not have for providing some other kind of solution for the WS documents. Personally, because it would crash so often and lose my work, I gave up on the WS word processor years ago and converted most of my WS documents from HTML to a professional word processor format.
Austin, Your email response sent me here so I will repeat my question. The response above for data and document transfer worked for my personal notes, lists, and highlights. My specific concern is 700 "Sermons and Illustrations" which I have accumulated in Wordsearch over many years and which still don't get picked up in the doc transfer script. Your note above has been the same for the 9 months of my querying since Logos conversion
"Sermons and Illustrations, and other Wordsearch document types We are still deciding how to handle these document types. Your feedback on which document types are the most important for us to focus next is appreciated."
With end of WS support now upon me I am concerned that this initiative will get dropped.
I really don't want to lose 700 sermons.
Thanks for your response that included me. I am sorry to hear your plight. In my conversations with the Logos support team, they told me that the transfer was still in beta and therefore they could not help me. They advised that I could get help through the forum. But they also said that few people had raised problems in the forum as to problems with transfer of documents. I initially thought it must be a problem with my knowledge or my computer. But with the answer that I have now received: that Logos cannot transfer anything on the Wordsearch word processing, I would think there are numerous Wordsearch users who used the word processing who are materially impacted by their inability to transfer our work. The "solution" I have been told to date is that I should transfer all of my work to my word processing in my computer, which is "better". I have been trying to look into waht that entails and it appears to be an incredibly time consuming project because it will not tranfer cleanly so every document has to be cleaned up individually. It also apears that trying to copy and paste from Logos directly into my computer word processing will not be clean and will be materially more cumbersome. Please let me kow if you learn anything else.
My highlighted texts from wordsearch are not in my logos bible. I have already uploaded my wordsearch 12 file to logos
please help me
thanks
Ron N
I am not exactly sure what you are talking about but the highlights are in my Wordsearch program on the king James version Bible but it is not in the logos program. Yesterday I uploaded the Wordsearch 12 information as requested by the email I received from you
I have done the back up, did the import, and got the message that it was finished. I opened my logos app and cannot find any of my messages from wordsearch in logos. Is there a special place that I need to be looking other then the under the docs tab?
I have looked in the documents and there is a WS Sample doc but none of my sermons from WS are in my docs.
I created a test document so I could have something easy to search for. Did the back up again and the import again and I am still getting nothing, even if I search logos for that particular doc.
Sorry for the confusion. Your Logos software may have two copies of the King James Version. I just wanted to make sure that you are looking at "King James Version (WordSearch Edition)" and not just "King James Version".
Stepping in.... I was a WS 12 user.... Had NKJV in WS... but now when I click on Library and then type in "NKJV" I only get one.... am I supposed to have 2 (one for Logos and one for NKJV (WordSearch Edition) ????
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
I was a WS 12 user.... Had NKJV in WS... but now when I click on Library and then type in "NKJV" I only get one.... am I supposed to have 2 (one for Logos and one for NKJV (WordSearch Edition) ????
No. We generally mapped a WS resource to a Logos resource, where one already existed. In a few cases, we created a new one, where one was different enough from the other.
Unfortunately neither "HTML Documents" nor "Sermons and Illustrations" are currently imported. See the original post and some of the replies above for additional details.
This is a tragedy. The Sermons and Illustrations database was top notch. Easy to understand, easy to search by date, by a word, by a tag. With only about 3 years and inconsistent use, I have 200 sermons and illustrations. I can't imagine what it must be like for some others.
Fortunately, because of my insistence on using the Harvard outline, and the fact no one other than LibreOffice seems to handle it properly, most of my sermons are backed up individually by date. I guess I'll continue to take the same precautions as I use Logos. As we seem to get closer and closer to finding out which view of the tribulation is correct, I'd hate to lose everything at the flip of a virtual switch.
my highlights that were in my KJV in wordsearch are not in logos kjv ws bible why arent they there and how can i fix this problem
i have notes but no highlights there
how do i change my bible from running continuous text to starting each verse on a new line,How do i change font size
(1) For individual verses instead of paragraph form:
* Click the Visual Filters icon on the Bible’s toolbar (three dots next to the search icon at the top of the Bible translation)
* Check and expand the Resource section
* Check and expand the Bible text only section
* Check the One verse per line box (per Morris Proctor instructions)
(2) You can change the Bible text size via the slider on the resource panel menu (three vertical dots in the upper right of Bible translation). Move the slider to the right to increase the font size and to the left to decrease the font size.
WORDsearch app is no longer available to do a transition from my computer. It crashed months ago and was replaced but the app is not available to download . How do I get the many notes from that app transferred to Logos?
tootle pip
Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
WORDsearch app is no longer available to do a transition from my computer. It crashed months ago and was replaced but the app is not available to download . How do I get the many notes from that app transferred to Logos?
I hope you kept the downloaded wordsearch exe install file because you probably will have to re-install WordSearch.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
Is there anyway to import an .not file into Logos? Super old version of Quickverse with all my notes in it. I would love to import them into Logos.
Good day. Has a solution to this been identified as yet? When will this issue be resolved? I still use WS12 predominantly and just browse Logos occasionally as I am reluctant to move over to Logos fully until I can transfer all of WS12 notes.
HF
My document notes in WS12. These are all of my study notes, sermons, etc over the past 20+ years of using WS. Converting them one by one to a .doc file is not an option, just too many. Do you know of any other way around this?
HF
Your answer is a little vague, since Wordsearch had data objects called Documents, but also had Notes (or Bible Notes), as well as a data type called Sermons which were used in the Sermons & Illustration tool.
Reading between the lines a bit, it sounds to me like you're talking about a lot of Documents. These would be html files that were created with the Wordsearch Word Processor tool. Those are easy enough to convert to .docx format (not .doc!!) using online converters. If you have hundreds and want to batch convert them, Mconverter.eu would be an option. They let you lease their software for a day for about $8, and you can do I think 1,000 documents a day in batches of up to 250 items. It's not the quickest, but it works. I'm sure there are other options - just google it.
Once you get them into Word format they'll be a lot easier to deal with. If you have the Sermon Manager tool, they're actually pretty easy to bulk upload into Logos as sermons at that point. It even handles the ugly www.crossbooks.com hyperlinks on the Biblical references and converts them to Logos Bible links/refs in the resulting sermon doc, so you can search your sermons for a specific verse, etc. By default, the tool uses the last modified date of the imported file as the sermon "date", but that's editable if you want to put the time in - and there are plenty of other fields you may want to populate with organizing metadata.
I'm not familiar with what Logos has in mind for user data type improvements/enhancements/additions in upcoming versions, but the Wordserach Migration effort sure seems like it's wrapped up. My advice to you and anyone else still using Wordsearch would be to figure out how to get Logos to work for you, and get off your Wordsearch dependency before it stops working on you. Good luck!
This is what I am trying to do now. I got a new laptop so I figured it is a good time to migrate over to Logos 100% but I just wanted to bring all my personal work over from WS12. Thanks for the assist.My advice to you and anyone else still using Wordsearch would be to figure out how to get Logos to work for you, and get off your Wordsearch dependency before it stops working on you. Good luck!
HF
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