ChatGPT INTEGRATION PLEASE🔥🔥🔥
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Wild Eagle said:
the Pulpit Ai is comingÂ
I don't know about you, but I think the minimum for a good sermon is 'Super-charging' with AI. Â Imagine going to all the trouble, to arrive at church, and the pastor's using 'old tech'. Â Probably Logos.
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The problem with ChatGPT or any other AI, is not necessarily its intelligence (which is potentially scary) but rather the muzzle it is constrained with, I get that Microsoft/Google's main objective is to make money from it, but while you are overwhelmed by its awesomeness, please don't forget it is constrained and the information given is filtered through someone else's filter and perhaps the spirit of the age, not the Holy Spirit.That is the problem especially when it comes to academic work or work for public consumption, setting aside the obvious plagiarism issues, you are letting someone put their greater filtered agenda/words into mouth, and do you really want to do that?But even if you are happy using AI created material, I have to ask what happens when you need to defend your position (sorry - their position) from challenge/scrutiny, and because you haven't done the work or the critical analysis of that viewpoint you stand there trying to come up with one on the fly.. and bluff/bluster..Whilst AI content may dig you out of a hole, if you are desperate, consider it's long term effect on your integrity and future if you choose to rely on it on a daily basis
Never Deprive Anyone of Hope.. It Might Be ALL They Have
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Russ White said:
Only if you want false information fed to you while studying the scriptures ... If I could not turn this off, it would actually dissuade me from purchasing further Logos resources.
Yeah that's a valid concern, but I don't think anyone is advocating that A.I. should replace the current software entirely or even take center stage within logos. I think two of the points made by the South Baptist Convention help us out here.
- We must proactively engage and shape these emerging technologies rather than simply respond to the challenges of AI and other
emerging technologies after they have already affected our churches and communities; and be it further - that we encourage all who employ these tools to do so in honest, transparent, and Christlike ways that focus on loving God and loving
our neighbor as ourselves, never seeking to willfully deceive others or take advantage of them for unjust gain or the accumulation of power.
With A.I. already so ubiquitous and with so much of industry shifting to take advantage of it, it's difficult to see it going away. Faithlife is one of only a handful of entities in a position to 'proactively engage and shape these emerging technologies' with respect to bible software. And I encourage them to do so, not because I love A.I., but because they are Christians who love God and his word - I trust they will seek to employ these tools in a way that focus on loving God and loving our neighbors. Is that to optimistic? Perhaps, but with the renewed emphasis on the bible and bible study that Faithlife has shown in the last 12 months I'm encourage to think they will head in that direction, and will certainly be praying for that.
I think PulpitAI is a step in that direction as well - Christians proactively seeking to engage and shape these technologies so that we can focus on loving God and loving our neighbour. Will it be perfect first go? Doubtful, but I'm glad we are trying. Especially because I'm concerned that if Faithlife and others like Accordance who take God's word seriously don't seek to proactively engage and shape these technologies, than others who don't hold to those same convictions will...
Current MDiv student at Trinity Theological College - Perth, Western Australia
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Mal Walker said:
 I think two of the points made by the South Baptist Convention help us out here.
- We must proactively engage and shape these emerging technologies rather than simply respond to the challenges of AI and other
emerging technologies after they have already affected our churches and communities; and be it further - that we encourage all who employ these tools to do so in honest, transparent, and Christlike ways that focus on loving God and loving
our neighbor as ourselves, never seeking to willfully deceive others or take advantage of them for unjust gain or the accumulation of power.
Mal, I don't question your enthusiasm. Nor social excitement. But Christianity did real well with search engines, and then social media. Now, politics. What can go wrong?
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Yes, Please develop an AI tool within the Logos to search all the books that individual owns on a given question and convert them into a nice answer and provide it to the reader with references to books that the AI is pulling from.
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DMB said:
Mal, I don't question your enthusiasm. Nor social excitement. But Christianity did real well with search engines, and then social media. Now, politics. What can go wrong?
'now' politics?! I hate to break it to you, but Christians have been engaging in politics long before Trump [:P]
But I do agree that we won't always hit the mark, and we are for sure going to have disagreements even amongst ourselves about what responsible use of A.I. will look like (as this thread has already shown). But...Christianity has had a huge impact across various political systems throughout history for the better. And Christians have used search engines well, and social media too. Sure, it's optimistic, but I have no doubt God will use AI for the good of his people, as he does all things!
Current MDiv student at Trinity Theological College - Perth, Western Australia
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Mal Walker said:
Christians have been engaging in politics long before ....
You nailed it ... so many examples to choose from. Â Where to start.
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Me:Â [Looking for some sermon alliteration]
Give me a Spanish word for "son" that begins with "s" sound.Â
ChatGPT:
In Spanish, the word for "son" that begins with an "s" sound is "hijo". Although the spelling does not start with an "s," the pronunciation of "hijo" begins with an "s" sound.
Me:
Ridiculous! No it does not!
ChatGPT:
Apologies for the confusion. You're right, the word "hijo" does not begin with an "s" sound. If you're looking for a Spanish word for "son" that starts with an "s" sound, you can use the word "súbdito" which means "subject" or "citizen."Advice:
ChapGPT benefits from a little constructive criticism. Use it with that in mind.Â0 -
M. Sai Ankem said:
Yes, Please develop an AI tool within the Logos to search all the books that individual owns on a given question and convert them into a nice answer and provide it to the reader with references to books that the AI is pulling from.
They are working on it. Check out the beta online version here:
https://beta.app.logos.com/search?kind=semanticÂ
And read more about it here:
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Using it as an enhanced search function is one thing. Using it to get "answers" is another. My fear is that in the coming days some (many?) will fail to maintain the distinction between truth and AI-generated reports ("ChatGPT said ..." and that is that). In the humanities (which Biblical studies and theology are part of), careful contextual analysis of primary texts, historical awareness, critical thinking, breadth of reading, attention to method, integration of new (proven) research, and scholarly experience are the essential keys to understanding. Computers cannot replace these things. AI is not a substitute for a real education. Personally, I'd rather spend a week in a library trying to answer a question than use ChatGPT for an "answer."
M. Sai Ankem said:<p>Yes, Please develop an AI tool within the Logos to search all the books that individual owns on a given question and convert them into a nice answer and provide it to the reader with references to books that the AI is pulling from.</p>
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David McClister said:
Using it as an enhanced search function is one thing. Using it to get "answers" is another. My fear is that in the coming days some (many?) will fail to maintain the distinction between truth and AI-generated reports ("ChatGPT said ..." and that is that). In the humanities (which Biblical studies and theology are part of), careful contextual analysis of primary texts, historical awareness, critical thinking, breadth of reading, attention to method, integration of new (proven) research, and scholarly experience are the essential keys to understanding. Computers cannot replace these things. AI is not a substitute for a real education. Personally, I'd rather spend a week in a library trying to answer a question than use ChatGPT for an "answer."
David, believe me I understand and for the most part I agree with you. My thought would be that people have to get back to God's word. I see more and more whereby people are drifting away from God's word.
And here's the thing with me... I own a bible program (Logos) so that it "helps me do that". If I have to spend all my time "hunting and searching and building lists" to help me find what I need and want to study on... then that has taken me away from my intention of studying God's word. If A.I. can help with me "hunting and searching and such" and not be a hindrance in my studies... then bring it on. If not... well... I stopped using Logos Search in L9 just because of that reason... and I will stop using A.I. (if it becomes available in Logos) for the same reason.
My intent is to study God's word, not have to learn something so complicated that I have to go to school to learn every time I use it.
But that's my opinion which if you add about $2.50 to it... you can buy a cup of coffee in a lot of places... [8-|]Â
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman -- we are in agreement. Using AI as a way to help find things might be useful. My concern is that in many areas, including Biblical Studies, AI will become the new "authority," that people will see it as the shortcut around the hard work of real analysis, in the supposition that it will produce the same results as actual scholarly method.
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I don't think AI will become an authority any time soon. Not in the life of Christians. But it sure is a handy resource tool which I use many times every day. Best thing ever so far.Â
Maybe it's like this:
I don't refuse to go to the grocery store just because I wouldn't buy everything it has to offer, even if it is all blue ribbon, fully certified, farm-fresh food. I would go with a shopping list in hand (or not), and judiciously select what I want.Â
I have found that AI Chat sometimes offers up perfectly rotten offerings, not fit for compost. I wrinkle my nose and try again but never consider it an authority. I have an irreplaceable authority in my life, and a mind with which to think. I don't find AI a threat to either.0 -
David McClister said:
xnman -- we are in agreement. Using AI as a way to help find things might be useful. My concern is that in many areas, including Biblical Studies, AI will become the new "authority," that people will see it as the shortcut around the hard work of real analysis, in the supposition that it will produce the same results as actual scholarly method.
David - I appreciate your concern as I have the same concern. But there is this... There will always be people that study the bible for what it is, that being biblical truth. No matter what, these people will still study the bible. And then there will always be people that just read the bible for the good stories that is in it and how the good stories make them feel good. Jesus came to save everyone, but as Mat 7:14 tells us, few there are that find it.
Years back, I remember preachers preaching about using a telephone was bad. For a long time I stopped using a telephone, but then I found that the telephone was a mute item, it depended on how the user used it whether it was good or bad. I think A.I. will be pretty much the same way.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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David McClister said:
Using it as an enhanced search function is one thing. Using it to get "answers" is another.Â
I am in favor of adding AI to every aspect of logos. Let’s not limit it’s capability because of how someone might use it. AI is a game changer, put the integrity of the issue on the shoulders of the user. We know many will use it, and it will enhance study, messages, clarity, accuracy etc, because this is such a vast, robust application.Â
(CLAUDE 2, ChatGPT)
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Brandon Early said:
I am in favor of adding AI to every aspect of logos
I hope you mean every aspect of Logos in which it can be helpful and accurate. Unfortunately, I've seen people fail on creating useful applications because they were too focused on the technology and not enough on the functionality.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship.";Â Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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ChatGPT was the best and main large language model.
Claude 2 is the latest and best ChatGPT competitor...and it is free for now. It is better that ChatGPT IMHO.
https://claude.ai/chats0 -
I agree with you that we should not limit the capabilities of Logos Bible Software because of how someone might use it. AI is a game-changer, and it has the potential to enhance study, messages, clarity, and accuracy. However, I also understand your concern about functionality.
I would like to see Logos Bible Software add AI to every aspect of the software, but with an on/off functionality in the settings. That way, people who don't want to use AI can turn it off, and those of us who want to can use it.
I believe that this would be the best way to balance the benefits of AI with the concerns about functionality. It would allow everyone to use Logos Bible Software in the way that they want to, and it would not limit the potential of AI to improve our understanding of the Bible.
I hope that this addresses your concerns. Thank you for your feedback.
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Brandon Early said:
I am in favor of adding AI to every aspect of logos.
As long as it is an "option" that can be turned ON or OFF by the user i'm ok with that [:)]
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My fellow brothers and sisters, there now officially is a tool called magisterium AI. It’s somewhat similar to ChatGPT but it is actually trained on  over 550 various different magisterial documents, and the list is still growing as the program collaborates with various different universities.  Unlike ChatGPT, this tool can provide exact references in its answers. If you wish to learn more, feel free to check it out at magisterium.com; it’s a free tool to use and the site has more information about the sources that are used. I’m really hoping logos/verbum starts rolling out some new ai features soon!
this is an excerpt from the about page:
Magisterium AI makes accessible the teaching of the Catholic Church like never before. Whether you’re seeking answers on Church teaching, conducting research, or are just trying to save some time, Magisterium AI is at your disposal 24 hrs a day / 7 days a week.
Our AI is trained on documents of the Catholic Church that fall within the Extraordinary and Ordinary Magisterium.
Wonder where the generated answers come from? Citations are available with every generated response so you can do a little follow-up investigation should you wish to.
With an expanding network of partners from around the world and access to unique sources of Catholic insight not yet available on the web, we continue to grow Magisterium AI’s training database helping it become smarter and more useful.
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Incorporating AI into Logos/Verbum data can be achieved with a relatively straightforward approach. Nevertheless, the true challenge lies in managing permissions and resource access effectively. Despite NLP's ability to accommodate diverse data, including potential inaccuracies, implementing restrictions based on purchased items proves to be complex. While integrating AI may enhance the user interface and overall experience, its alignment with the FL'S business perspective requires careful consideration. AI may be FL's demise...and so with all of our "resources."Â At the end of the day, there is value to process. AI makes it so easy and so it makes sense to automate and have AI do the heavy lifting. But research and understanding theology, etc., nothing beats the good ol' ways. Read...Think..Form an Opinion...Share
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Totally agree with you, Brandon.[Y] Let me explain...
Factbook in Logos is nice, but limited. Searching in Logos is sometimes very frustrating if you don't know what exactly you're looking for. Searching the online database of journals is a good way to get more details, but still a long way to find the right stuff.
But there is something special about using AI like Google Bard. It returns some magnificent results with their sources. I even saw books (cited), I own in my Logos lib.Â
I just formulated my questions to Google Bard like this;
1. Are there a peer reviewed journal on Acts 15:20?
2. Was it a culinary custom of the Greeks or Romans to eat blood or add it in their dishes? What can you tell me about the history of the eating habits of Greeks and Romans?
3. Where did you get this information from
4. Tell me more...
5. What were the temple customs of the Greeks and Romans? Was temple prostitution normal?Â
6. Where did you get this info? Sources please
So, I was looking for some background on Acts 15:20. Logos gave me some nice but concise details. It just didn't satisfied me.
Searching academic peer reviewed journals gave me great insights. But I wanted to know things from a Greco-Roman perspective. I wanted to zooming on a week in the life of a pagan in the Greco-Roman world(Antioch)
Habit of eating blood? Fornication(tempel prostitution? Who were the prostitutes? How did they did the strangling thing and why? Â How did they conduct their business especially in Antioch of Acts 15:20, from eating, drinking, dancing, worship, and sex.Â
It took me too long to find something in Logos. It was a painful search. The results were good but I knew there must be more out there. Spent a lot to expand my library in Logos. a lot...too much
Google bard just made my day. Cost me nothing. I've got detailed results back with their sources and some very spicy info too. Is it trustworthy? Can you validate the results? Where does this info lands on a scale of plausibilty? You tell me;
About food, eating drinking blood, ...
- "The History of Food: An Illustrated Companion" door Maguelonne Toussaint-Samat
- "A History of the World in 6 Glasses" door Tom Standage
- "The Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America" door Andrew F. Smith
- "The Food of the Ancient Greeks" door Andrew Dalby
- "The Food of the Ancient Romans" door Sally Sampson
About sex in temples or during festivals...
- "The History of Prostitution in the Ancient World" door Susan Treggiari
- "The Temple of Aphrodite Pandemos" door J.G.F. Hind
- "The Temple of Venus Genetrix" door J.R. Rea
- "The Acts of the Apostles" door F.F. Bruce
Sorry Logos. I still appreciate you, but you need to catch up our you'll be leading from behind.Â
Titles impress people, obedience impresses God.
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Logos doesn't have these resources.Â
Asking google bard to explain to me sexuality in Ancient Greece and Rome and with sources. These are the sources.Â
- "The History of Sexuality" door Michel Foucault
- "The Sexual Life of Ancient Greece" door Kenneth Dover
- "The Sexual Life of Ancient Rome" door John Kenneth Galbraith
Titles impress people, obedience impresses God.
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This is GOLD! So good. I love hearing about great prompts that are feeding good study!
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LogosA?That will be silver, gold, platinum, diamond or beyond. Pricetag? Still no news about that from Logos. Working on it behind the scenes?
I'm studying Daniel 7 and used Logos. I love Logos. It's a huge blessing for me. I only use AI to see if it can line up with peer reviewed articles or true exegetical and hermeneutical research in Logos or in Seminar. Is it helpful or fake, false or fiction.Â
I just needed to check things out.[;)]
I asked Google Bard to tell me something about Dan.7:25
My Prompt(question):
What can you tell me about Daniel 7:25 and where did you got that data from? Is that data peer reviewed?
Google Bard:
Sure.
Daniel 7:25 is a verse in the Book of Daniel in the Hebrew Bible. It is part of a vision that Daniel has of four beasts that represent four kingdoms. The fourth beast is described as being "terrifying and dreadful and exceedingly strong" (Daniel 7:7). It has ten horns, and one of the horns has a little horn that grows up and up until it reaches the sky.
Daniel 7:25 describes what this little horn will do. It says that the little horn will "speak words against the Most High" and "wear out the saints of the Most High." It will also "think to change the times and the law."
The interpretation of Daniel 7:25 has been debated by scholars for centuries. Some believe that the little horn represents a specific historical figure, such as Antiochus IV Epiphanes, who ruled the Seleucid Empire in the 2nd century BCE. Others believe that the little horn represents a more general evil power that will oppose God and his people in the end times.
The meaning of Daniel 7:25 is still debated, but the verse is a powerful warning about the dangers of evil and the importance of faithfulness to God.
The data I got about Daniel 7:25 is from a variety of sources, including:
- The Bible
- The Jewish Encyclopedia
- The New Interpreter's Bible Commentary
- The International Critical Commentary on the Holy Scriptures of the Old Testament
This data is not peer-reviewed in the traditional sense, but it has been studied and debated by scholars for centuries. There is no one definitive interpretation of Daniel 7:25, but the verse is a powerful warning about the dangers of evil and the importance of faithfulness to God.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
Titles impress people, obedience impresses God.
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I've got all these resources in my Logos Library.
I wanted some media while studying the cult of Dionysus.
Factbook about Dionysus; A Greek god of vegetation, death, and rebirth. Also: Bacchus; Dionysia
Logos Media gave me one small b/w image about the cult of Dionysus.
I went online and found this link. Amazing great images. Try it and see.
https://www.akg-images.co.uk/CS.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&VBID=2UMESQJ7T1I928&SMLS=1&RW=1716&RH=939&PN=1Titles impress people, obedience impresses God.
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Has anyone tried Claude 2 yet? It has a huge context window of about 70,000 words. I haven't done a lot of testing on it yet, but I fed it the introduction to Audi's Epistemology, which is about 11 pages or 5,294 words.
I had read this a few days ago and made a mind-map of it as I read it to summarize the points so I was able to compare my summary with Claude's and it did an amazing job. Something like this in Logos would be quite nice as well.
Potato resting atop 2020 Mac Pro stand.
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Hmmm worth trying. Thanks.
Titles impress people, obedience impresses God.
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