Index of Bible Studies

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  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭

    Reading through all these pages and I am confused since it spans multiple years and Logos versions. Please forgive my ignorance, but so many of you are saying how great this is but I am trying to figure out what it would do.

    1) Would someone be so kind to tell me what it does?

    2) Will it work on a Mac? Seems like one of the pages in the thread said it doesn't.

    iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    Reading through all these pages and I am confused since it spans multiple years and Logos versions. Please forgive my ignorance, but so many of you are saying how great this is but I am trying to figure out what it would do.

    1) Would someone be so kind to tell me what it does?

    2) Will it work on a Mac? Seems like one of the pages in the thread said it doesn't.

    1) It is a curated list of resources that help to read/study/teach Bible passages. Think of it as an extension to the Passage Guide, adding explanations, theological texts, devotions, sermon outlines and more to the Passage Guide. So if you are studying a certain passage of the Bible, you can find a lot more resources in your Logos library to help you prepare. It does this by creating a Personal Book as a Bible Commentary. The reason there are lots of different versions is that, as I have added more books to my library over the last 10 years, I have looked for significant discussions of Bible passages in each book, and added them to my index. The multiple Logos versions don't matter, as the Personal Book Builder has worked the same over these 10 years (since at least Logos 5).

    2) The file Index Bible Studies.docx works on a Mac, as it uses the Personal Book Builder in Logos for Mac, which is the same as in Logos for Windows. The problem with using this file is that it includes all the books I have indexed, and you might not own all of those books. So it will include links to some books which you can't open, which is annoying, but it does still work. The solution to this problem is to create a docx file which is a subset of Index Bible Studies.docx, but which contains only the books you own. I have created two ways of making this personal docx file. One way (MyIndex program, see my post of 22 August 2023) works only in Windows, as it uses Windows technology (COM API) to ask the Logos program what books you own. The other way (see my post of September 9, 2019) involves exporting from Logos a list of books you own - the process is a bit more complicated, but works in both Windows and Mac.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭

    The problem with using this file is that it includes all the books I have indexed, and you might not own all of those books. So it will include links to some books which you can't open, which is annoying, but it does still work.

    I find it to be very helpful. I take it as recommendation. I have added a resource from the link and I will continue to add in this way. It is a great Job. Thank you Richard. God bless you!

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭

    Method 2. Open the Library in Logos, then from the menu in the upper right corner of the panel choose "Print/Export". In the bottom right corner of the new window that opens, under "Export", click on "XML", and save the file "Library.xml".
    For Windows: Download the PersonalIndex.zip file. Unzip it to create the PersonalIndex.exe file. Copy the Library.xml file to the same directory as the PersonalIndex.exe file. (If Logos is running in a language that is not English, it might propose a different name for the file. The name must be changed to Library.xml.) Now run the PersonalIndex.exe program. A file called My Index Bible Studies.rtf is created in the same directory as the program. It will also create a file called My Library.rtf, that you can use to create a personal book that contains the books in your library, as described in the thread https://community.logos.com/forums/t/184809.aspx .
    For Mac: Download the file https://www.laparola.net/PersonalIndex-1.0.pkg , and execute it to install the program. Then run the installed program PersonalIndex. It will ask you to open the file that the Logos Library created. Then it will run, and when it has finished there will be a message saying where the My Index Bible Studies.rtf is saved. You can now close the program.

     

    I tried method 2 tonight but the Mac app couldn’t be installed. Mac said the app is not approved and needs to be updated by the developer

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭

    Method 2. Open the Library in Logos, then from the menu in the upper right corner of the panel choose "Print/Export". In the bottom right corner of the new window that opens, under "Export", click on "XML", and save the file "Library.xml".
    For Windows: Download the PersonalIndex.zip file. Unzip it to create the PersonalIndex.exe file. Copy the Library.xml file to the same directory as the PersonalIndex.exe file. (If Logos is running in a language that is not English, it might propose a different name for the file. The name must be changed to Library.xml.) Now run the PersonalIndex.exe program. A file called My Index Bible Studies.rtf is created in the same directory as the program. It will also create a file called My Library.rtf, that you can use to create a personal book that contains the books in your library, as described in the thread https://community.logos.com/forums/t/184809.aspx .
    For Mac: Download the file https://www.laparola.net/PersonalIndex-1.0.pkg , and execute it to install the program. Then run the installed program PersonalIndex. It will ask you to open the file that the Logos Library created. Then it will run, and when it has finished there will be a message saying where the My Index Bible Studies.rtf is saved. You can now close the program.

     

    I tried method 2 tonight but the Mac app couldn’t be installed. Mac said the app is not approved and needs to be updated by the developer

    Hi Mattillo, Could you  please explain it in steps ,so that I could follow the instructions you have provided.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭

    Hi Tes

    I was only copying the instructions from the older post but forgot the quote marks. Regardless, method 2 did NOT work for my Mac so we are back to square 1.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭

    copying

    I was very tired to copy each one and some times ,if I klick it does not go away. Is there any idea of copying them all at one time?

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭

    Copy what?

    the documents where there is action.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭

    I’m sorry but I don’t understand your question. I didn’t copy anything…

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭

    I’m sorry but I don’t understand your question. I didn’t copy anything…

    I have misunderstood .  Could you please tell me what you did showing me the steps ?

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    I tried method 2 tonight but the Mac app couldn’t be installed. Mac said the app is not approved and needs to be updated by the developer

    As the Mac said, I will have to compile a new version of the app. I'll try to do that in the next day or two, and then write another message here.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭

    Thank you Richard!

    Tes

    We will have to wait if and until a new program is written.

    Instructions for exporting your library can be found below but (for Macs) until a new program is written you won't be able to customize it.

    https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360056780552-Export-Your-Library-to-a-Spreadsheet 

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭

    Thank you Richard!

    Tes

    We will have to wait if and until a new program is written.

    Instructions for exporting your library can be found below but (for Macs) until a new program is written you won't be able to customize it.

    https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360056780552-Export-Your-Library-to-a-Spreadsheet 

    Thank you Mattillo. I have now my Data on Excel. What is nexst. How am I going to add it to Logos? 

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    Hi Tes,

    I am having various technical difficulties updating the program to work with the current security restrictions on a Mac. I think the easiest thing to do is to send me by email a copy of your Library.xml file, and then I can send you back the file to import into your Logos as a Personal Book.

    Note that it is not your library as a spreadsheet that I need, but as an XML file. To do this:

    Open the Library in Logos, then from the menu in the upper right corner of the panel choose "Print/Export". In the bottom right corner of the new window that opens, under "Export", click on "XML", and save the file "Library.xml".

    Then send that Library.xml file to my email address, which is my first name (see below) @laparola.net.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭

    Hi Tes,

    I am having various technical difficulties updating the program to work with the current security restrictions on a Mac. I think the easiest thing to do is to send me by email a copy of your Library.xml file, and then I can send you back the file to import into your Logos as a Personal Book.

    Note that it is not your library as a spreadsheet that I need, but as an XML file. To do this:

    Open the Library in Logos, then from the menu in the upper right corner of the panel choose "Print/Export". In the bottom right corner of the new window that opens, under "Export", click on "XML", and save the file "Library.xml".

    Then send that Library.xml file to my email address, which is my first name (see below) @laparola.net.

    Thank you Richard for your help. 

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    By the way, if there are any other Mac users who want a personal index of only the books they own, they can send me an email (address is my first name (see below) @laparola.net) with their Library.xml file, and I will send back a docx file that can be added as a Personal Book in Logos.

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    Here is a new version of the Index of Bible Studies in Logos, with the addition of some new books and more than 1500 new links.

    This file contains links to sermons, meditations, outlines, journal articles, Bible study guides, non versified commentaries, and more that do not appear in the Passage Guide. (Exception: some sermons now appear in the Passage Guide, but did not when I started, and I thought I would not remove them.) It is useful especially when preparing Bible studies or sermons or doing personal study on a certain passage, to find more ideas on the passage from your library that you can use.

    To install the Index, download the Index Bible Studies.docx file, then use the Personal Books tool of Logos to create a new personal book. You can use whatever title you like, but it is best to set the type to "Bible commentary". On page 3 of this thread you can find a book cover that you can optionally use. The message https://community.logos.com/forums/p/65323/1093313.aspx#1093313 gives graphical instructions for this installation.

    The index contains the books in my Logos library – there is a list of the included books at the end of the Index Bible Studies.docx file. Naturally, I cannot include books that are in your library but not in mine. However, it is possible to exclude books that are in my library but not in yours, which makes the resulting personal book easier to use. There are two ways to create this personal index:

    Method 1 (Windows only)

    1. Download and unzip the MyIndex.zip file.
    2. There should then be two files in a directory. Start the Index Bible Studies.exe program, which will open Logos (if it is not already open), read the names of all the books in your library, and then create a file My Index Bible Studies.rtf in your Documents directory.
    3. Continue with the steps under "Both methods".

    (NEW) Method 2 (Windows and Macintosh)

    1. In Logos, open the Library.
    2. Click on the three vertical dots on the top right of the Library window, and in the menu that opens choose Print/Export.
    3. In the Print/Export window, click on the Save as file: XML link, and choose in which directory to save the Library.xml file.
    4. Go to https://www.laparola.net/indexlogos.php , click the Choose File button, navigate to where you saved the Library.xml file, and then choose it.
    5. Click the Submit button on that page.
    6. If all goes well, the browser will download a file called myindex.rtf, which probably will be saved in the Downloads directory of your computer.
    7. Continue with the steps under "Both methods".

    Both Methods

    1. Open the My Index Bible Studies.rtf or myindex.rtf file in Word or another word processor and save it as a docx file.
    2. In Logos, create a personal book from that docx file, in the same way as described above, setting the type to "Bible commentary".

    5466.Index Bible Studies.docx

    8357.MyIndex.zip

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning Member, MVP Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭

    Richard, thanks so much for your ongoing work on this project and updating the Index with 1500+ more links. Much appreciated!

    Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭

    Richard, thanks so much for your ongoing work on this project and updating the Index with 1500+ more links. Much appreciated!

    Yes, very much a service for the Lord and to us.  Thanks.

  • Lew Worthington
    Lew Worthington Member Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭

    For years, I just kind of saw this and said, "Meh."

    I was totally wrong about it. This is an amazing tool. Thank you, Richard!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would you be interested in adding resources not in your library? If so, what format would you prefer and what is your criteria for making an entry -- I would assume it is a discusses the passage rather than simply references it.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Jesse Blevins
    Jesse Blevins Member Posts: 639 ✭✭

    Richard, thank you very much for providing this helpful resource. It is much appreciated!! 

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    Would you be interested in adding resources not in your library? If so, what format would you prefer and what is your criteria for making an entry -- I would assume it is a discusses the passage rather than simply references it.

    I'm certainly interested! I have add resources in the past I didn't have. The format for each line is:

    Gen 1:1 [[Great Texts of the Bible >> logosres:grttxtbbl01ge;ref=Page.p_3]]

    The part between >> and ]] I get from Logos itself: From the menu of a tab (the three vertical dots at top right of the tab), make sure L4 is chosen after "Copy location as:". Then put the book at the location to which you want the link and do CTRL-ALT-C to copy the link, then paste it in a document where you are putting the links. I usually type something like

    Gen 1:1 qwe (paste link)]]

    for all the links in a given book, then do Replace All to replace 'qwe' with '[[(name of book) >>'

    The criteria to be included has fuzzy boundries. The first criteria is that the resource would not be found if you used Logos' passage guide for that passage, although there are some exceptions of resources which were not in the passage guide when I started 10 years ago but now are (eg sermons). But anything with type "Bible Commentary", "Bible Notes", "Study Bible" is out.

    If the book passes that test, I look for relevant references in it. Certainly not all Bible references in it, since that can be done in Logos with a search. My index is supposed to be a curated list of discussions of Bible passages, not references to passages in discussions on topics or other passages. So expository sermons, sermon outlines, and devotions are always in, as are non versified commentaries. Theology books are trickier; usually if there is a Bible reference in a section heading it will be added to my list, but there are exceptions in both directions. Also, the longer a reference is, the less likely it is that it would be included eg having the whole book of "Romans" in a section heading means it is unlikely that it will actually be a discussion of the whole book of Romans.

    I hope that is all clear. If you want to do a test of some resources and links, you can send me a test document at richard at the domain in my signature, and I will be able to say if the format is correct or not.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please see BUG: PG links are acting wonky (imprecise) affecting the Index of Bible studies - Logos Forums for my trials and tribulations in building a test file ... or more accurately, improper behavior in the compiled PBB that affects both your work and mine.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    Please see BUG: PG links are acting wonky (imprecise) affecting the Index of Bible studies - Logos Forums for my trials and tribulations in building a test file ... or more accurately, improper behavior in the compiled PBB that affects both your work and mine.

    Thanks for bringing up those observations, I have made some comments in that thread.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    is this a case of title change or an error - link on left opens book on right

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    is this a case of title change or an error - link on left opens book on right

    A title change, the old title can be found in places (eg Amazon), but maybe the publishers thought that the issues weren't contemporary anymore [:)] In Logos, the resources abbreviation (bbclaconiss) is a witness to the old name of the book. Anyway, I'll change the name of the book in the Index of Bible Studies file.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Richard Wilson
    Richard Wilson Member Posts: 189 ✭✭

    Here is another update to the Index of Bible Studies, with a few corrections and another 23 books and 1100 links added, to take the total to almost 76,000 links. There was also a change at the top of the standings of the chapter with most links, with Matthew 5 overtaking Romans 8. Thanks to MJ Smith for her help in these corrections and additions.

    For instructions on how to use these files, and how to create a personal index of only the books in your library, read my message of 29 November 2023 in this thread.

    6131.Index Bible Studies.docx

    3817.MyIndex.zip