Official: You Can Now Get Early Access to the Next Version of Logos

May I ask 

It says that if I keep logos 10 subscription for 2 years 

What do I get to keep ? 

Is it an actual logos 10 program? Do I get to keep feature sets? Like gold? 

Can anyone help me understand 

I can't find what data sets are included 

Features sets like read aloud mobile app or sermon builder 

And what in liners 

I can't find any list 

May I ask 

What feature sets and data sets and in liners are included in logos max subscription 

There is no list. You will know know after 2 years, but have a pretty good idea during that time.

And this is still a massive PR problem - Subscribe and turn the handle like the old gumball machines to find out what you get....

Hopefully we will get an accurate list of included features for each subscription option, as well as a well defined list of what would be kept after two years of payments.... Somewhere in the posts, Mark in some way admitted that he's not sure what's coming in the future - so as has been said elsewhere by others - users could wind up with zero to keep for their investment....

***Found it -

Another question that may be good to have the answer to before launch.....

Yes. Let's say you subscribe to Logos Pro for one year, and then upgrade to Logos Max.

After two years, you'll be eligible for a Logos Pro fallback license. After a further year, that would get upgraded to a Logos Max fallback license.

I doubt that there would be an option to pay the difference, but we're two years away from that being an issue, so I can't be dogmatic. I appreciate that puts L10 full-feature set owners wanting to get the most value from the fallback license in something of a quandary. Do you pay for Logos Max from day one, even though there's not much difference between that and Logos Pro right now, in the hope that it will snag you a better fallback license in two years' time?

No one can answer that question because no one knows (not even me!) exactly what might go into Logos Max over the next two years.

As of now - for your up to $260 investment (if you have the discount) - you get to keep instant dark/light mode.... Anything else? That's right - it's being "worked on"

Do u think the full features upgrade will be available to purchase when the new subscription comes?

Do u think the full features upgrade will be available to purchase when the new subscription comes?

Thanks bill God bless you brother 

As I noted in the survey I was offered, with a Diamond library, all of the things being marketed are currently part of the feature set I already have (including minimal machine translation features). The survey and the splash page for the new subscription both made me very nervous as a customer (for almost twenty years and my father before that from version 1). With the features marketed in the subscription, it looks like things I already have access to are going to be restricted in the future (the statement against this notwithstanding).

I am concerned by 1311 posts (as of me writing this) with a general tenor of, "Are you nuts, Logos, this isn't what we want in our software?" There are a handful in the midst of this who are intrigued and most of these are former Logos Now/Connect subscribers. 

I am concerned that the general response to the concerned posts I skimmed through seems to be, "don't worry, it will work out, you'll see," followed by a link to the FAQ on the new service. 

The survey I was given floated prices ranging from just under $10 to $70ish per month. As I noted in the survey, a $70/month price tag and even $40/month was excessive to the point of being offensive (especially as I write this in Latin America hopefully figuring out a way to get my Hebrew students access to a not bank-breaking package for an intro course). $70/month is 10% (or more) of a family's income where I am right now. A subscription model might be helpful for some, but looking to help pastors in training develop libraries they can use for future ministry doesn't work well with a subscription model (unless there's a way for it to be tied to local economies more carefully than what I see in the relevant store right now). 

Further, looking at the Logos app on my computer vs. on my tablet, it looks like the tablet "information" press and hold option requires an active internet connection (which would mean future users would have to subscribe just for what seems like basic information gathering at present). Is this accurate? Would the "information" popup bubble be restricted to subscriptions moving forward for new users?

"With books, it’s different. The content of books isn’t continually improved—once they’re published, they’re done. And while we bear small ongoing costs to allow you to download and interact with your books, those costs are orders of magnitude lower than that of AI and similar services. Therefore, you will still be able to buy permanent access to Logos libraries and any other books from our catalog. In the future, we may add rental options for those who want it, but we don’t foresee a time when we’ll stop selling perpetual licenses to books.

We’re still thinking through what that means for purchasable feature sets, and we’d value your feedback on whether the option to purchase would be important to you, knowing that you’d miss out on all the AI and cloud-backed features along with regular updates."

Where can I give my feedback on this? I would love the ability to buy instead of rent features (I really dislike subscriptions, and without an option to buy, I would be much more hesitant to recommend Logos to others). Also, you mention that the books we have will remain, but what about our feature expansions? 

Thanks!